Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: selling boats

2018-03-06 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
We have boats that just get put out at anchor for years on end. Also in many – 
most – parts of Maryland anyone can just drop a mooring anyplace. This is 
ANOTHER issue, if an old mooring doesn’t have a boat on it and no one knows who 
owns it, it takes up space but no one trusts it enough to use.

Joe
Coquina

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Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: selling boats

I believe the derelict boat issue is far more prevalent in areas where boats 
don’t get hauled on a seasonal basis.  Look closely at the back lots of local 
boatyards in NE and there’s no shortage of worn out boats that the yard owner 
would gladly sell on a lien to pay off the yard storage bill.  And few are 
worth the time and effort to get them functioning again.  At least a derelict 
abandoned on land can be stripped of gear, cut up and the keel sold for scrap 
metal value.  Derelicts in the water simply become navigation hazards by 
sinking or running adrift in a storm.
My current boat sat in the owner’s back yard for 7 seasons before I bought her.
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 LF
Padanaram MA
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On Mar 6, 2018, at 7:40 AM, David via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Interesting...in the New England area i have not seen many, if any, derelict 
boats.  Ugly boats, yes. Not very ship-shape boats, yes.  Must be the cost of 
living...


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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: selling boats

2018-03-06 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I think Chuck is right.  Here in Louisiana we have lots of derelict boats.

The local marinas have had to go to sheriff's eviction several times.

In Pensacola there are a half dozen anchored in the bayou astern of
Touche'.  Some are live aboards, some show no activity.

Dennis

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 7:13 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I believe the derelict boat issue is far more prevalent in areas where
> boats don’t get hauled on a seasonal basis.  Look closely at the back lots
> of local boatyards in NE and there’s no shortage of worn out boats that the
> yard owner would gladly sell on a lien to pay off the yard storage bill.
> And few are worth the time and effort to get them functioning again.  At
> least a derelict abandoned on land can be stripped of gear, cut up and the
> keel sold for scrap metal value.  Derelicts in the water simply become
> navigation hazards by sinking or running adrift in a storm.
> My current boat sat in the owner’s back yard for 7 seasons before I bought
> her.
> Chuck Gilchrest
> S/V Half Magic
> 1983 35 LF
> Padanaram MA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 6, 2018, at 7:40 AM, David via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Interesting...in the New England area i have not seen many, if any,
> derelict boats.  Ugly boats, yes. Not very ship-shape boats, yes.  Must be
> the cost of living...
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: selling boats

2018-03-06 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
I believe the derelict boat issue is far more prevalent in areas where boats 
don’t get hauled on a seasonal basis.  Look closely at the back lots of local 
boatyards in NE and there’s no shortage of worn out boats that the yard owner 
would gladly sell on a lien to pay off the yard storage bill.  And few are 
worth the time and effort to get them functioning again.  At least a derelict 
abandoned on land can be stripped of gear, cut up and the keel sold for scrap 
metal value.  Derelicts in the water simply become navigation hazards by 
sinking or running adrift in a storm.
My current boat sat in the owner’s back yard for 7 seasons before I bought her.
Chuck Gilchrest 
S/V Half Magic
1983 35 LF
Padanaram MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2018, at 7:40 AM, David via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Interesting...in the New England area i have not seen many, if any, derelict 
> boats.  Ugly boats, yes. Not very ship-shape boats, yes.  Must be the cost of 
> living...
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: selling boats

2018-03-06 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
In Eastern Canada the derelicts are either onshore (sometimes in long-term
storage at boat yards, sometimes decaying on the shore in coves in fishing
communities) or have sunk out of site.  Winter is good for making sure one
or the other happens.

Ken H.

On 6 March 2018 at 08:40, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Interesting...in the New England area i have not seen many, if any,
> derelict boats.  Ugly boats, yes. Not very ship-shape boats, yes.  Must be
> the cost of living...
>
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> Fitzgerald via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 5, 2018 5:18:25 PM
> *To:* C
> *Cc:* Jack Fitzgerald
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: selling boats
>
> I agree Joe.
>
> Savannah's creeks & old marinas are full of derelict sail boats. We used
> to have a vibrant large boat sailing community here and now we are down a
> few "rode hard, put up wet J Boats" and mixed bag of PHRF Boats whose
> owners would rather complain about their ratings rather clean and paint the
> bottom or buy decent sails.
>
> Best regards,
> Jack Fitzgerald
> HONEY - C 39TM
> US12788
> Savannah Yacht Club
> Savannah, GA USA
>
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Back when we bought Coquina she cost more than our house, so I doubt the
>> previous owners were too worried she would rot at the dock. Now……slips and
>> yards and “derelict cove” anchorages are all full of old boats slowly
>> decaying into scrap L
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* honeysail...@gmail.com [mailto:honeysail...@gmail.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Jack Fitzgerald
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2018 5:08 PM
>> *To:* C <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List selling boats
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> Understand completely. We have owned Honey since Dec of 1975 and as much
>> as I hate spending the bucks to keep her in yacht condition I just can't
>> wrap my mind around selling her nor can allow her to just wither away at
>> the dock like so many other old sail boats around here.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jack Fitzgerald
>>
>> HONEY - C 39TM
>>
>> US12788
>>
>> Savannah Yacht Club
>>
>> Savannah, GA USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have thought about what would happen if I got another boat. I am not
>> sure I could sell Coquina.
>> We have had her since 1977. It would be like selling my dog or something
>> :(
>> Joe
>> Coquina
>> C 35 MK I
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy
>> Stafford via CnC-List
>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:58 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Randy Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com>
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List USCG Abstract of Title and documents
>>
>> This doesn’t mean you’re thinking about selling Touche, does it?  Say it
>> ain’t so.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Randy
>>
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: selling boats

2018-03-06 Thread David via CnC-List
Interesting...in the New England area i have not seen many, if any, derelict 
boats.  Ugly boats, yes. Not very ship-shape boats, yes.  Must be the cost of 
living...

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Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 5:18:25 PM
To: C
Cc: Jack Fitzgerald
Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: selling boats

I agree Joe.

Savannah's creeks & old marinas are full of derelict sail boats. We used to 
have a vibrant large boat sailing community here and now we are down a few 
"rode hard, put up wet J Boats" and mixed bag of PHRF Boats whose owners would 
rather complain about their ratings rather clean and paint the bottom or buy 
decent sails.

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY - C 39TM
US12788
Savannah Yacht Club
Savannah, GA USA

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Back when we bought Coquina she cost more than our house, so I doubt the 
previous owners were too worried she would rot at the dock. Now……slips and 
yards and “derelict cove” anchorages are all full of old boats slowly decaying 
into scrap :(

Joe

From: honeysail...@gmail.com<mailto:honeysail...@gmail.com> 
[mailto:honeysail...@gmail.com<mailto:honeysail...@gmail.com>] On Behalf Of 
Jack Fitzgerald
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 5:08 PM
To: C <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov<mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List selling boats

Joe

Understand completely. We have owned Honey since Dec of 1975 and as much as I 
hate spending the bucks to keep her in yacht condition I just can't wrap my 
mind around selling her nor can allow her to just wither away at the dock like 
so many other old sail boats around here.

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY - C 39TM
US12788
Savannah Yacht Club
Savannah, GA USA


On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I have thought about what would happen if I got another boat. I am not sure I 
could sell Coquina.
We have had her since 1977. It would be like selling my dog or something :(
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

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Cc: Randy Stafford 
<randal.staff...@icloud.com<mailto:randal.staff...@icloud.com>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List USCG Abstract of Title and documents

This doesn’t mean you’re thinking about selling Touche, does it?  Say it ain’t 
so.

Cheers,
Randy

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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: selling boats

2018-03-05 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
I agree Joe.

Savannah's creeks & old marinas are full of derelict sail boats. We used to
have a vibrant large boat sailing community here and now we are down a few
"rode hard, put up wet J Boats" and mixed bag of PHRF Boats whose owners
would rather complain about their ratings rather clean and paint the bottom
or buy decent sails.

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY - C 39TM
US12788
Savannah Yacht Club
Savannah, GA USA

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Back when we bought Coquina she cost more than our house, so I doubt the
> previous owners were too worried she would rot at the dock. Now……slips and
> yards and “derelict cove” anchorages are all full of old boats slowly
> decaying into scrap L
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> *From:* honeysail...@gmail.com [mailto:honeysail...@gmail.com] *On Behalf
> Of *Jack Fitzgerald
> *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2018 5:08 PM
> *To:* C 
> *Cc:* Della Barba, Joe 
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List selling boats
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> Understand completely. We have owned Honey since Dec of 1975 and as much
> as I hate spending the bucks to keep her in yacht condition I just can't
> wrap my mind around selling her nor can allow her to just wither away at
> the dock like so many other old sail boats around here.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Jack Fitzgerald
>
> HONEY - C 39TM
>
> US12788
>
> Savannah Yacht Club
>
> Savannah, GA USA
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I have thought about what would happen if I got another boat. I am not
> sure I could sell Coquina.
> We have had her since 1977. It would be like selling my dog or something :(
> Joe
> Coquina
> C 35 MK I
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy
> Stafford via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:58 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Randy Stafford 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List USCG Abstract of Title and documents
>
> This doesn’t mean you’re thinking about selling Touche, does it?  Say it
> ain’t so.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy
>
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Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: selling boats

2018-03-05 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Back when we bought Coquina she cost more than our house, so I doubt the 
previous owners were too worried she would rot at the dock. Now……slips and 
yards and “derelict cove” anchorages are all full of old boats slowly decaying 
into scrap ☹

Joe

From: honeysail...@gmail.com [mailto:honeysail...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jack 
Fitzgerald
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 5:08 PM
To: C 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List selling boats

Joe

Understand completely. We have owned Honey since Dec of 1975 and as much as I 
hate spending the bucks to keep her in yacht condition I just can't wrap my 
mind around selling her nor can allow her to just wither away at the dock like 
so many other old sail boats around here.

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY - C 39TM
US12788
Savannah Yacht Club
Savannah, GA USA


On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
> wrote:
I have thought about what would happen if I got another boat. I am not sure I 
could sell Coquina.
We have had her since 1977. It would be like selling my dog or something :(
Joe
Coquina
C 35 MK I

-Original Message-
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[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Randy Stafford via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:58 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Randy Stafford 
>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List USCG Abstract of Title and documents

This doesn’t mean you’re thinking about selling Touche, does it?  Say it ain’t 
so.

Cheers,
Randy

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