Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
Steven, Thats an awful story. I'm so sorry for your loss and the trouble you had just trying to do a good thing... These people refuse to take individual circumstances into account... Danny -- Original Message -- From: Steve Staten via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Steve Staten steve-sta...@cherokee.org Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:40:05 -0500 I have a Google story: My younger brother worked in shipyards all over the world. He fell at the one in Korea that is on an island off the eastern coast and ruptured his spleen. He came back to the US to recover and, instead, died in a motel in Texas. I was named administrator of his estate. Because his first ex-wife looted his motel room and storage unit, I had no idea of his friends, co-workers, professional contacts or the many girlfriends and children that he claimed to have scattered over the globe. I only knew of one bank account (the local one). I needed info on all his financial resources so I could get them to my brotherrsquo;s two legitimate children by his second ex-wife. The only possible source that might provide some answers was his GMail account. So, I contacted Google for access to it and they demanded all sorts of documents as you would expect; death certificates, court documents, my ID, etc. After ldquo;jumping through all their hoopsrdquo;, they denied my request and said that I could not appeal it. Their rationale was simply, ldquo;We value our customerrsquo;s privacy.rdquo; This is the value of human beings in a post-capitalist corporate economy. I hope all of Googlersquo;s management die anonymously as my brother did to the people that knew him. Share or document your passwords so the folks who have to clean up after you can do just that. Above all, get a will. Steve Staten ldquo;Crsquo; Est La Vierdquo; CC 27 Langley, OK From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:34 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 I hope you donrsquo;t think that Apple (or Google, for that matter) is not collecting very similar information From: S Thomas via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:16 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: S Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Sounds like Microsoft and the NSA are dancing the same waltz. - Original Message - From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:22 Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Or this, More than 14 million devices are already running Microsoftrsquo;s Windows 10 after its global launch on Wednesday, but itrsquo;s unclear how many of their users read the companyrsquo;s Privacy Policy and Service Agreement before downloading. Tucked away in the 45 pagesrsquo; worth of terms and conditions (effective August 1) is a substantial power grab: The company is collecting data on much of what you do while using its new software. From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company saves customersrsquo; basic informationmdash;name, contact details, passwords, demographic data and credit card specifics mdash;but it also digs a bit deeper. Other information Microsoft saves includes Bing search queries and conversations with the new digital personal assistant Cortana; contents of private communications such as email; websites and apps visited (including features accessed and length of time used); and contents of private folders. Furthermore, ldquo;your typed and handwritten words are collected,rdquo; the Privacy Statement says, which many online observers liken to a keylogger. Microsoft says they collect the information ldquo;to provide you a personalized user dictionary, help you type and write on your device with better character recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you type or write.rdquo; All this information doesnrsquo;t necessarily remain with just Microsoft. The company says it uses the data collected for three purposes: to provide and improve its services; to send customers personalized promotions; and to display targeted advertising, which sometimes requires the information be shared with third parties. Microsoft mentions that though it assigns each customer a unique advertising ID, which is fed data during computer usage, it ldquo;does not use what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, or your documents, photos or other personal files to target ads to you.rdquo; It makes no such promise for its other stated data collection purposes. Bill Coleman ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc
Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
I have a Google story: My younger brother worked in shipyards all over the world. He fell at the one in Korea that is on an island off the eastern coast and ruptured his spleen. He came back to the US to recover and, instead, died in a motel in Texas. I was named administrator of his estate. Because his first ex-wife looted his motel room and storage unit, I had no idea of his friends, co-workers, professional contacts or the many girlfriends and children that he claimed to have scattered over the globe. I only knew of one bank account (the local one). I needed info on all his financial resources so I could get them to my brother’s two legitimate children by his second ex-wife. The only possible source that might provide some answers was his GMail account. So, I contacted Google for access to it and they demanded all sorts of documents as you would expect; death certificates, court documents, my ID, etc. After “jumping through all their hoops”, they denied my request and said that I could not appeal it. Their rationale was simply, “We value our customer’s privacy.” This is the value of human beings in a post-capitalist corporate economy. I hope all of Google’s management die anonymously as my brother did to the people that knew him. Share or document your passwords so the folks who have to clean up after you can do just that. Above all, get a will. Steve Staten “C’ Est La Vie” CC 27 Langley, OK From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:34 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 I hope you don’t think that Apple (or Google, for that matter) is not collecting very similar information From: S Thomas via CnC-Listmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:16 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: S Thomasmailto:sthom...@bellnet.ca Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Sounds like Microsoft and the NSA are dancing the same waltz. - Original Message - From: Bill Coleman via CnC-Listmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Colemanmailto:colt...@verizon.net Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:22 Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Or this, More than 14 million deviceshttp://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/30/windows-10-the-first-24-hours/?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter are already running Microsoft’s Windows 10 after its global launchhttp://www.newsweek.com/windows-10-features-upgrade-review-microsoft-358027 on Wednesday, but it’s unclear how many of their users read the company’s Privacy Policyhttps://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx and Service Agreementhttps://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/servicesagreement/default.aspx before downloading. Tucked away in the 45 pages’ worth http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2015/07/29/wind-nos/ of terms and conditions (effective August 1http://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2015/06/04/improving-the-microsoft-services-agreement-and-privacy-statement-for-consumers/) is a substantial power grab: The company is collecting data on much of what you do while using its new software. From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company saves customers’ basic information—name, contact details, passwords, demographic data and credit card specifics —but it also digs a bit deeper. Other information Microsoft saves includes Bing search queries and conversations with the new digital personal assistant Cortana; contents of private communications such as email; websites and apps visited (including features accessed and length of time used); and contents of private folders. Furthermore, “your typed and handwritten words are collected,” the Privacy Statementhttps://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx says, which many online observers http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/31/windows-10-microsoft-faces-criticism-over-privacy-default-settings liken to http://thehackernews.com/2014/10/download-Windows-10-keylogger.html a keyloggerhttps://twitter.com/XzeroPoint/status/625325931410751488. Microsoft says they collect the information “to provide you a personalized user dictionary, help you type and write on your device with better character recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you type or write.” All this information doesn’t necessarily remain with just Microsoft. The company sayshttps://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx it uses the data collected for three purposes: to provide and improve its services; to send customers personalized promotions; and to display targeted advertising, which sometimes requires the information be shared with third parties. Microsoft mentions that though it assigns each customer a unique advertising ID, which is fed data during computer usage
Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
I had a chance to play with it more this afternoon while working from home. I reconfigured the network so we could print from other computers to the Epson printer plugged into the Win 10 machine. I think there was some sort of error sent to the Epson, and ultimately turning it off and on solved everything. not sure if the reconfigure was necessary. OpenCPN works fine. Office 2007 and Outlook 2010 work fine, as does my weather routing software, Squid. The All Programs in the Start menu is now All Apps and they are actually in alphabetical order. So far so good! Sailing this weekend. enough of this stuff! Joel On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: it's really just 2 schools of thought. Those that feel if it ain't broke, don't fix it and ...ooohh that's shinymust...touch it! when it comes to things that move I like the tried and true. PCs I'm always upgrading... it's a hobby and keeping up with software resource requirements is essential. My CAD modeling software updates every 12 months now and it does more, requires more resources and can utilize more resources. in this regard, time is money and quality keeps me busy. I could not compete on an XP machine with 4GB memory and AutoCAD 2007. No one would hire me... LOL Having said that, I just retired my 2005 Sony Viao dual core (because it died...) after 10 years of solid service as my entertainment center streaming video box... In the words of Michael Cain in Austin Powers, it's not the size mate, it's what you so wiv it! It's just that way with marine electronics, do your 10 year old instruments work? do they suit your needs? do you REALLY need the new Ray touchscreen? Danny -- Original Message -- From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 06:35:40 -0500 I'm still on XP for my daily driver and Vista on my desktop which gets used rarely. I do dual boot with Linux (Ubuntu) and keep it up to date. Josh Muckley On Aug 7, 2015 6:55 AM, Bill Bina via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a digital recording studio in my house. You would be amazed at how much hardware, as well as software, from the trivial to the major, is not supported by Win10. What is the hurry? Let Win10 ripen for as long as possible until you actually need it. Then again, thank you to the impatient early adopters for jumping in early and finding the problems (the hard and painful way) that will be fixed a year or two from now. Some present hardware will never be supported. How many flatbed scanners went to the recycler when Win7 didn't support them, although they worked perfectly in XP? Bill Bina On 8/7/2015 5:41 AM, Steve Sharkey via CnC-List wrote: I would expect that it would support a wide variety of hardware, but how about programs that were loaded on your computer? Quicken, video editing, navigation programs, etc? Steve *From:* Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 1:07 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Generally, no (no need to do an upgrade). Be careful, though, with anything requiring special drivers (GPS receivers (they are all “special”), any extraordinary WLAN adapters (e.g. some of the special “extended range” ones), any older (and obsoleted) h/w (e.g. some older printers, scanners etc.), many security devices (e.g. finger print readers). Marek *From:* Steve Sharkey via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:47 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Steve Sharkey mailto:stevebshar...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Joel, I'd be interested in how other programs run with it or whether you have to do upgrades on those as well. Steve On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very positive. -- Joel 301 541 8551 tel:301%20541%208551 ___ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change
Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
I would expect that it would support a wide variety of hardware, but how about programs that were loaded on your computer? Quicken, video editing, navigation programs, etc? Steve From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 1:07 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Generally, no (no need to do an upgrade). Be careful, though, with anything requiring special drivers (GPS receivers (they are all “special”), any extraordinary WLAN adapters (e.g. some of the special “extended range” ones), any older (and obsoleted) h/w (e.g. some older printers, scanners etc.), many security devices (e.g. finger print readers). Marek From: Steve Sharkey via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:47 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Steve Sharkey Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Joel, I'd be interested in how other programs run with it or whether you have to do upgrades on those as well. Steve On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very positive. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
I have a digital recording studio in my house. You would be amazed at how much hardware, as well as software, from the trivial to the major, is not supported by Win10. What is the hurry? Let Win10 ripen for as long as possible until you actually need it. Then again, thank you to the impatient early adopters for jumping in early and finding the problems (the hard and painful way) that will be fixed a year or two from now. Some present hardware will never be supported. How many flatbed scanners went to the recycler when Win7 didn't support them, although they worked perfectly in XP? Bill Bina On 8/7/2015 5:41 AM, Steve Sharkey via CnC-List wrote: I would expect that it would support a wide variety of hardware, but how about programs that were loaded on your computer? Quicken, video editing, navigation programs, etc? Steve *From:* Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 1:07 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Generally, no (no need to do an upgrade). Be careful, though, with anything requiring special drivers (GPS receivers (they are all “special”), any extraordinary WLAN adapters (e.g. some of the special “extended range” ones), any older (and obsoleted) h/w (e.g. some older printers, scanners etc.), many security devices (e.g. finger print readers). Marek *From:* Steve Sharkey via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:47 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Steve Sharkey mailto:stevebshar...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Joel, I'd be interested in how other programs run with it or whether you have to do upgrades on those as well. Steve On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very positive. -- Joel 301 541 8551 tel:301%20541%208551 ___ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
I'm still on XP for my daily driver and Vista on my desktop which gets used rarely. I do dual boot with Linux (Ubuntu) and keep it up to date. Josh Muckley On Aug 7, 2015 6:55 AM, Bill Bina via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a digital recording studio in my house. You would be amazed at how much hardware, as well as software, from the trivial to the major, is not supported by Win10. What is the hurry? Let Win10 ripen for as long as possible until you actually need it. Then again, thank you to the impatient early adopters for jumping in early and finding the problems (the hard and painful way) that will be fixed a year or two from now. Some present hardware will never be supported. How many flatbed scanners went to the recycler when Win7 didn't support them, although they worked perfectly in XP? Bill Bina On 8/7/2015 5:41 AM, Steve Sharkey via CnC-List wrote: I would expect that it would support a wide variety of hardware, but how about programs that were loaded on your computer? Quicken, video editing, navigation programs, etc? Steve *From:* Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 1:07 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Generally, no (no need to do an upgrade). Be careful, though, with anything requiring special drivers (GPS receivers (they are all “special”), any extraordinary WLAN adapters (e.g. some of the special “extended range” ones), any older (and obsoleted) h/w (e.g. some older printers, scanners etc.), many security devices (e.g. finger print readers). Marek *From:* Steve Sharkey via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:47 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Steve Sharkey mailto:stevebshar...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Joel, I'd be interested in how other programs run with it or whether you have to do upgrades on those as well. Steve On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very positive. -- Joel 301 541 8551 tel:301%20541%208551 ___ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
it's really just 2 schools of thought. Those that feel if it ain't broke, don't fix it and ...ooohh that's shinymust...touch it! when it comes to things that move I like the tried and true. PCs I'm always upgrading... it's a hobby and keeping up with software resource requirements is essential. My CAD modeling software updates every 12 months now and it does more, requires more resources and can utilize more resources. in this regard, time is money and quality keeps me busy. I could not compete on an XP machine with 4GB memory and AutoCAD 2007. No one would hire me... LOL Having said that, I just retired my 2005 Sony Viao dual core (because it died...) after 10 years of solid service as my entertainment center streaming video box... In the words of Michael Cain in Austin Powers, it's not the size mate, it's what you so wiv it! It's just that way with marine electronics, do your 10 year old instruments work? do they suit your needs? do you REALLY need the new Ray touchscreen? Danny -- Original Message -- From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 06:35:40 -0500 I'm still on XP for my daily driver and Vista on my desktop which gets used rarely. I do dual boot with Linux (Ubuntu) and keep it up to date. Josh Muckley On Aug 7, 2015 6:55 AM, Bill Bina via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a digital recording studio in my house. You would be amazed at how much hardware, as well as software, from the trivial to the major, is not supported by Win10. What is the hurry? Let Win10 ripen for as long as possible until you actually need it. Then again, thank you to the impatient early adopters for jumping in early and finding the problems (the hard and painful way) that will be fixed a year or two from now. Some present hardware will never be supported. How many flatbed scanners went to the recycler when Win7 didn't support them, although they worked perfectly in XP? Bill Bina On 8/7/2015 5:41 AM, Steve Sharkey via CnC-List wrote: I would expect that it would support a wide variety of hardware, but how about programs that were loaded on your computer? Quicken, video editing, navigation programs, etc? Steve *From:* Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 1:07 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Marek Dziedzic mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Generally, no (no need to do an upgrade). Be careful, though, with anything requiring special drivers (GPS receivers (they are all ldquo;specialrdquo;), any extraordinary WLAN adapters (e.g. some of the special ldquo;extended rangerdquo; ones), any older (and obsoleted) h/w (e.g. some older printers, scanners etc.), many security devices (e.g. finger print readers). Marek *From:* Steve Sharkey via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:47 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Steve Sharkey mailto:stevebshar...@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Joel, I'd be interested in how other programs run with it or whether you have to do upgrades on those as well. Steve On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very positive. -- Joel 301 541 8551 tel:301%20541%208551 ___ ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
I hope you don’t think that Apple (or Google, for that matter) is not collecting very similar information From: S Thomas via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:16 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: S Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Sounds like Microsoft and the NSA are dancing the same waltz. - Original Message - From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:22 Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Or this, More than 14 million devices are already running Microsoft’s Windows 10 after its global launch on Wednesday, but it’s unclear how many of their users read the company’s Privacy Policy and Service Agreement before downloading. Tucked away in the 45 pages’ worth of terms and conditions (effective August 1) is a substantial power grab: The company is collecting data on much of what you do while using its new software. From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company saves customers’ basic information—name, contact details, passwords, demographic data and credit card specifics —but it also digs a bit deeper. Other information Microsoft saves includes Bing search queries and conversations with the new digital personal assistant Cortana; contents of private communications such as email; websites and apps visited (including features accessed and length of time used); and contents of private folders. Furthermore, “your typed and handwritten words are collected,” the Privacy Statement says, which many online observers liken to a keylogger. Microsoft says they collect the information “to provide you a personalized user dictionary, help you type and write on your device with better character recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you type or write.” All this information doesn’t necessarily remain with just Microsoft. The company says it uses the data collected for three purposes: to provide and improve its services; to send customers personalized promotions; and to display targeted advertising, which sometimes requires the information be shared with third parties. Microsoft mentions that though it assigns each customer a unique advertising ID, which is fed data during computer usage, it “does not use what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, or your documents, photos or other personal files to target ads to you.” It makes no such promise for its other stated data collection purposes. Bill Coleman ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
Generally, no (no need to do an upgrade). Be careful, though, with anything requiring special drivers (GPS receivers (they are all “special”), any extraordinary WLAN adapters (e.g. some of the special “extended range” ones), any older (and obsoleted) h/w (e.g. some older printers, scanners etc.), many security devices (e.g. finger print readers). Marek From: Steve Sharkey via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:47 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Steve Sharkey Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Joel, I'd be interested in how other programs run with it or whether you have to do upgrades on those as well. Steve On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very positive. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Joel, I'd be interested in how other programs run with it or whether you have to do upgrades on those as well. Steve On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very positive. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I second that! Leslie. On Thu, 8/6/15, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015, 6:59 AM Joel, To re-purpose and rephrase an old saying… Once you go Mac, you never go back. My take on Windows: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qMXpyxW2lkk/hqdefault.jpg All the best, Edd Edd M. SchillayStarship EnterpriseCC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BCity Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very positive. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I've updated a new windows 8.1 desktop here at work and my Dell venue pro tablet at home. I have to say, I'm quite impressed with the OS. My tablet and this desktop seem to run better. The desktop in work is just a low resourse celeron processor with 4 gb ram runs really well the tablet is a 4th gen i5 processor with 8gb ram Both run well and both were upgraded from windows 8.1 They brought the start button back!!! Never liked that separate home screen and desktop setup. My powerhouse desktop at home is a Windows 7 ultimate whith gen 5 i7 processor and 32 gb ram and GTX 780 video card. I want to upgrade that but I'm a little reluctant as that's a money maker for me and the thought of it going down is horrific! I've not drunk the coolaid yet but my wife just got her first Iphone... it a 6 and she claims to love it. However, we lost power in a crazy storm on Tuesday for a few hours. we have the same provider and I could make calls on my chinese android phone I paid $150 for and she could not on her $750 Iphone 6 64gb! I didn't make a single comment about it until just now! Just sayin... LOL I do respect apple products. I never made the switch because, when I was learning about computers, you couldn't run AutoCAD on Mac. Now i'm so comfortable with windows I really don't see a need to change. The new windows 10 is supposed to be more like IOS in that there are supposed to be no more updates It's supposed to windows 10 from now on. Thats what those ads with the babies are all about... Thanks for bringing up the topic Joel!! Danny, Still shopping in Massachusetts -- Original Message -- From: Leslie Paal via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Leslie Paal lpaalc...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 10:15:57 -0700 I second that! Leslie. On Thu, 8/6/15, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Edd Schillay e...@schillay.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015, 6:59 AM Joel, To re-purpose and rephrase an old sayinghellip; Once you go Mac, you never go back. My take on Windows: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qMXpyxW2lkk/hqdefault.jpg All the best, Edd Edd M. SchillayStarship EnterpriseCC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BCity Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very positive. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
Joel, To re-purpose and rephrase an old saying… Once you go Mac, you never go back. My take on Windows: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qMXpyxW2lkk/hqdefault.jpg http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qMXpyxW2lkk/hqdefault.jpg All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very positive. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Only because you get addicted to MAJ (magic apple juice) that is dispensed from any Apple product (;-) Marek From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 9:59 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Edd Schillay Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Joel, To re-purpose and rephrase an old saying… Once you go Mac, you never go back. My take on Windows: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qMXpyxW2lkk/hqdefault.jpg All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very positive. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Or this, More than 14 million devices http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/30/windows-10-the-first-24-hours/?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter are already running Microsoft’s Windows 10 after its global launch http://www.newsweek.com/windows-10-features-upgrade-review-microsoft-358027 on Wednesday, but it’s unclear how many of their users read the company’s Privacy Policy https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx and Service Agreement https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/servicesagreement/default.aspx before downloading. Tucked away in the 45 pages’ worth http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2015/07/29/wind-nos/ of terms and conditions (effective August http://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2015/06/04/improving-the-microsoft-services-agreement-and-privacy-statement-for-consumers/ 1) is a substantial power grab: The company is collecting data on much of what you do while using its new software. From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company saves customers’ basic information—name, contact details, passwords, demographic data and credit card specifics —but it also digs a bit deeper. Other information Microsoft saves includes Bing search queries and conversations with the new digital personal assistant Cortana; contents of private communications such as email; websites and apps visited (including features accessed and length of time used); and contents of private folders. Furthermore, “your typed and handwritten words are collected,” the Privacy Statement https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx says, which many online observers http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/31/windows-10-microsoft-faces-criticism-over-privacy-default-settings liken to http://thehackernews.com/2014/10/download-Windows-10-keylogger.html a keylogger https://twitter.com/XzeroPoint/status/625325931410751488 . Microsoft says they collect the information “to provide you a personalized user dictionary, help you type and write on your device with better character recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you type or write.” All this information doesn’t necessarily remain with just Microsoft. The company says https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx it uses the data collected for three purposes: to provide and improve its services; to send customers personalized promotions; and to display targeted advertising, which sometimes requires the information be shared with third parties. Microsoft mentions that though it assigns each customer a unique advertising ID, which is fed data during computer usage, it “does not use what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, or your documents, photos or other personal files to target ads to you.” It makes no such promise for its other stated data collection purposes. Bill Coleman My take on Windows: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qMXpyxW2lkk/hqdefault.jpg All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ Captain's Log On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very positive. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
Sounds like Microsoft and the NSA are dancing the same waltz. - Original Message - From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:22 Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Or this, More than 14 million devices are already running Microsoft’s Windows 10 after its global launch on Wednesday, but it’s unclear how many of their users read the company’s Privacy Policy and Service Agreement before downloading. Tucked away in the 45 pages’ worth of terms and conditions (effective August 1) is a substantial power grab: The company is collecting data on much of what you do while using its new software. From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company saves customers’ basic information—name, contact details, passwords, demographic data and credit card specifics —but it also digs a bit deeper. Other information Microsoft saves includes Bing search queries and conversations with the new digital personal assistant Cortana; contents of private communications such as email; websites and apps visited (including features accessed and length of time used); and contents of private folders. Furthermore, “your typed and handwritten words are collected,” the Privacy Statement says, which many online observers liken to a keylogger. Microsoft says they collect the information “to provide you a personalized user dictionary, help you type and write on your device with better character recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you type or write.” All this information doesn’t necessarily remain with just Microsoft. The company says it uses the data collected for three purposes: to provide and improve its services; to send customers personalized promotions; and to display targeted advertising, which sometimes requires the information be shared with third parties. Microsoft mentions that though it assigns each customer a unique advertising ID, which is fed data during computer usage, it “does not use what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, or your documents, photos or other personal files to target ads to you.” It makes no such promise for its other stated data collection purposes. Bill Coleman ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Bill: Here’s an excellent article on how to opt out of many of the privacy violations: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.html Jack Brennan Former CC 25 Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 Tierra Verde, Fl. From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:22 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Or this, More than 14 million devices are already running Microsoft’s Windows 10 after its global launch on Wednesday, but it’s unclear how many of their users read the company’s Privacy Policy and Service Agreement before downloading. Tucked away in the 45 pages’ worth of terms and conditions (effective August 1) is a substantial power grab: The company is collecting data on much of what you do while using its new software. From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company saves customers’ basic information—name, contact details, passwords, demographic data and credit card specifics —but it also digs a bit deeper. Other information Microsoft saves includes Bing search queries and conversations with the new digital personal assistant Cortana; contents of private communications such as email; websites and apps visited (including features accessed and length of time used); and contents of private folders. Furthermore, “your typed and handwritten words are collected,” the Privacy Statement says, which many online observers liken to a keylogger. Microsoft says they collect the information “to provide you a personalized user dictionary, help you type and write on your device with better character recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you type or write.” All this information doesn’t necessarily remain with just Microsoft. The company says it uses the data collected for three purposes: to provide and improve its services; to send customers personalized promotions; and to display targeted advertising, which sometimes requires the information be shared with third parties. Microsoft mentions that though it assigns each customer a unique advertising ID, which is fed data during computer usage, it “does not use what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, or your documents, photos or other personal files to target ads to you.” It makes no such promise for its other stated data collection purposes. Bill Coleman My take on Windows: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qMXpyxW2lkk/hqdefault.jpg All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very positive. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
As always, it is best to delay adopting any new operating system as long as possible unless it does something your present operating system doesn't do that YOU NEED. The longer you wait, the more problems will have been fixed. Their are a lot of gotchas, especially with hardware support. Will you need to buy a new GPS puck, wifi antenna, scanner, etc? If you have a laptop that had pretty much the minimum specs for your current operating system that it came with, how will it perform with a new operating system that requires a lot more horsepower to run at the same speed? Bill Bina On 8/6/2015 11:47 AM, Jack Brennan via CnC-List wrote: Bill: Here’s an excellent article on how to opt out of many of the privacy violations: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.html Jack Brennan Former CC 25 Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 Tierra Verde, Fl. *From:* Bill Coleman via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:22 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Bill Coleman mailto:colt...@verizon.net *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10 Or this, More than 14 million devices http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/07/30/windows-10-the-first-24-hours/?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter are already running Microsoft’s Windows 10 after its global launch http://www.newsweek.com/windows-10-features-upgrade-review-microsoft-358027 on Wednesday, but it’s unclear how many of their users read the company’s Privacy Policy https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx and Service Agreement https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/servicesagreement/default.aspx before downloading. Tucked away in the 45 pages’ worth http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2015/07/29/wind-nos/of terms and conditions (effective August 1 http://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2015/06/04/improving-the-microsoft-services-agreement-and-privacy-statement-for-consumers/) is a substantial power grab: The company is collecting data on much of what you do while using its new software. From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company saves customers’ basic information—name, contact details, passwords, demographic data and credit card specifics —but it also digs a bit deeper. Other information Microsoft saves includes Bing search queries and conversations with the new digital personal assistant Cortana; contents of private communications such as email; websites and apps visited (including features accessed and length of time used); and contents of private folders. Furthermore, “your typed and handwritten words are collected,” the Privacy Statement https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx says, which many online observers http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/31/windows-10-microsoft-faces-criticism-over-privacy-default-settingsliken to http://thehackernews.com/2014/10/download-Windows-10-keylogger.htmla keylogger https://twitter.com/XzeroPoint/status/625325931410751488. Microsoft says they collect the information “to provide you a personalized user dictionary, help you type and write on your device with better character recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you type or write.” All this information doesn’t necessarily remain with just Microsoft. The company says https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx it uses the data collected for three purposes: to provide and improve its services; to send customers personalized promotions; and to display targeted advertising, which sometimes requires the information be shared with third parties. Microsoft mentions that though it assigns each customer a unique advertising ID, which is fed data during computer usage, it “does not use what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, or your documents, photos or other personal files to target ads to you.” It makes no such promise for its other stated data collection purposes. Bill Coleman My take on Windows: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qMXpyxW2lkk/hqdefault.jpg All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I installed Windows 10 onto my Lenovo laptop with Win 7, Install was flawless. Made sure that OpenCPN runs as well as Office apps. The new browser will import bookmarks from another browser in seconds. I did not have a chance to play with it much, but first look is very positive. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences
