Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in > Prop Change

2016-10-24 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
I replaced a Martec with a two blade fixed, and a folding two blade gori. I like the Gori, it works great, have no issues stopping the boat. I read that same article about the 3 blade gori and this did not support my own experience with the two blade, which was superior to the martec and at

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in > Prop Change

2016-10-24 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
The Gori did poorly, though note it was a three blade folding. Also Gori spec'd the wrong size of prop according to a note at the end of the article. It is a good article but I noted that most of the props stopped from 6 kts in 8 - 10 seconds, the majority of them did 6.4 - 6.65 kts ahead. For me

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in

2016-10-24 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
As Rob knows I back in all the time as my preferred method of docking. On the frers 33 the shaft I centered and the prop is RH so there is some prop walk to port in reverse but it is not pronounced. The biggest issues are visibility and the lack of bite of the prop when shifting from forward

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in

2016-10-23 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in

2016-10-23 Thread robert via CnC-List
Andrew: It is quite common to have an offset angled prop shaft. Most if not all C 30 MK I's have angled prop shafts..other C models as well. My understanding for it, rightly or wrongly, is first to allow for the removal of the prop shaft without having to drop the rudder. Seems

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in

2016-10-23 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
I have wondered for a while why the 30-1 prop shaft is on the port side. My Gori 2 blade folding has excellent bite in reverse and the prop walk is to port. Having the shaft on port would give one the theory that the few degrees of offset would add to pulling the stern to port. The Goman Express

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

2016-10-23 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
;cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Slip Choice Original message From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 10/21/16 16:03 (GMT+01:00) To: C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Josh Muckley &l

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in

2016-10-22 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in

2016-10-22 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 11:49 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Gary Nylander Subject: Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in The 30-1's have a shaft which is offset to port. I assume

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in

2016-10-22 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
ai...@gmail.com> Sent: Sat, Oct 22, 2016 11:18 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in I'm a bit puzzled by the talk about prop walk and offset shafts. I've found that prop walk is pronounced when the shaft is on centerline, but when the shaft is offset, it is offset to minim

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in

2016-10-22 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
Cc: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in I'm a bit puzzled by the talk about prop walk and offset shafts. I've found that prop walk is pronounced when the shaft is on centerline, but when the shaft is offset, it is offset to minimize pro

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in

2016-10-22 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
I'm a bit puzzled by the talk about prop walk and offset shafts. I've found that prop walk is pronounced when the shaft is on centerline, but when the shaft is offset, it is offset to minimize prop walk. i.e. If the prop pulls to port, then the shaft is offset to starboard cancelling the

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in

2016-10-22 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
-list.com> Cc: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2016 8:58 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in I'm lucky to have gotten a very good slip. It's a goofy slip no one else wanted, with the dock on an angle, the two rear piling are on an angle. There is a pair

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice, backing in

2016-10-21 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
I'm lucky to have gotten a very good slip. It's a goofy slip no one else wanted, with the dock on an angle, the two rear piling are on an angle. There is a pair of bow piling, 30 feet out from the nearest rear one and another pair another 20 feet out. The previous boat was a 50 footer.

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

2016-10-21 Thread svpegasus38
I agree with the port tie, and would like to add. Prevailing wind is important. I had a slip that the wind blew me off, had major issues getting tied up in any thing over 10 kts of breeze. If you are lucky enough to have a slip with fingers on both sides then it doesn't matter. I

Re: Stus-List Slip choice

2016-10-21 Thread Jack Brennan via CnC-List
Try using a spring line when you back out. It takes all of the drama out of leaving a slip. I have a 30-foot length of floating line that I tie off to the starboard cleat at the stern of the boat. When I’m ready to leave, I route it around a cleat on the rear piling and then back to the

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

2016-10-21 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I would say that coming bow in, prop-walk is irrelevant but come out any amount of walk will make things interesting to say the least. I back in and have prop-walk to port in reverse. Because of this, I love port side ties when filling/pumping tanks or coming into a tee pier for the night. When

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

2016-10-21 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Rob There is a vacant slip beside us. Either the next one or the one over on road side. The C 33-2 Colmonel spent some time there Spring 2015 with no issues Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 10:13 AM

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

2016-10-21 Thread Michael Crombie via CnC-List
I single hand a lot and prefer the slip on my port. I come in bow first so I pull towards the slip when i go into reverse to stop the boat (as I'm returning to the slip.) It is a slight hassle departing, but i just give the stern a bit of a push off as I step aboard. I also made sure that i

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

2016-10-21 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
I second Dennis's advice on getting a slip with the dock downwind. A cross wind will swamp prop walk effects. I docked for many years in a slip in a river that was always cross current and usually cross winded. Pretty hairy getting in and out sometimes. Steve Thomas C MKIII Port Stanley, ON

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

2016-10-21 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Shouldn't make any difference coming in. Will have affect leaving the slip. Are there any considerations when backing out into the fairway or marina? I'd look more at the prevailing wind and choose the side that is downwind most of the time. We had a temporary slip in Pensacola with a port

Re: Stus-List Slip Choice

2016-10-21 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Rob, If your prop walks to port as you apply reverse, you want to tie up port to. That way you can use prop walk to your advantage. You can approach the dock with a slight angle toward the dock, and with a small burst of reverse to stop the boat, the stern will move to port and snug up