Re: Stus-List Water in rudder

[Joel Delamirande via CnC-List]

Thks for the info

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 10:47 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
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> During the rebuild, the fiberglass guy made extra efforts to dig out a
> V-groove around the shaft and repack it with some special flex epoxy.  I
> don't know where the leak occurred but regardless I still got water in the
> rudder.
>
> Josh
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 04:14 Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to prevent water from going inside the rudder or is that
>> normal
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Re: Stus-List Water in rudder

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

During the rebuild, the fiberglass guy made extra efforts to dig out a
V-groove around the shaft and repack it with some special flex epoxy.  I
don't know where the leak occurred but regardless I still got water in the
rudder.

Josh

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 04:14 Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <
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> Is there a way to prevent water from going inside the rudder or is that
> normal
> --
> Joel Delamirande
> *www.jdroofing.ca *
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Re: Stus-List Water in rudder

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

My experience -27 Mk III - has been to drain rye rudder each fall, I drilled 
holes and put set screws in for the season. About 2 cups is what drains out. 
Has worked for 20 years so far.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 8, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Nathan Post via CnC-List  
wrote:


Seems to be a normal problem and from all the feedback on this list I decided 
to leave it alone rather than replace or attempt a rebuild and I just make sure 
I drain it in the winter.  I am pretty sure that the metal components in my 
rudder are already encapsulated based on a few exploratory holes I drilled and 
latter filled with thickened epoxy).  For the first two winters I drilled a 
hole into the foam near the bottom (about 3 1/2 inches up from the bottom in 
the middle of the rudder on my C is where the foam starts) and let it drain 
for the winter on the hard - then patched with epoxy and some barrier coat 
followed by bottom paint in the spring.  The first year, I also drilled a hole 
near the top but this didn't seem necessary as the water will eventually come 
out of the foam either way.  This spring I decided to install a removable plug 
which I made myself using https://www.mcmaster.com/50785K213 and 
https://www.mcmaster.com/4429k111 (I cut the pipe fitting in half and only used 
one end).  Drilled hole with appropriate hole saw, cleaned it up and bonded the 
fitting in using 5200.  I thought about using epoxy but figured that with 
different thermal coefficients the 5200 might be better.  I'll barrier coat and 
paint over it as usual.  Hopefully in the fall when back on the hard I can 
simply unscrew the plug and the pipe fitting will stay put.

Nathan Post
S/V Wisper
1981 C 34
Lynn MA
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Re: Stus-List Water in rudder

[Nathan Post via CnC-List]

Seems to be a normal problem and from all the feedback on this list I
decided to leave it alone rather than replace or attempt a rebuild and I
just make sure I drain it in the winter.  I am pretty sure that the metal
components in my rudder are already encapsulated based on a few exploratory
holes I drilled and latter filled with thickened epoxy).  For the first two
winters I drilled a hole into the foam near the bottom (about 3 1/2 inches
up from the bottom in the middle of the rudder on my C is where the
foam starts) and let it drain for the winter on the hard - then patched
with epoxy and some barrier coat followed by bottom paint in the spring.
The first year, I also drilled a hole near the top but this didn't seem
necessary as the water will eventually come out of the foam either way.
This spring I decided to install a removable plug which I made myself using
https://www.mcmaster.com/50785K213 and https://www.mcmaster.com/4429k111 (I
cut the pipe fitting in half and only used one end).  Drilled hole with
appropriate hole saw, cleaned it up and bonded the fitting in using 5200.
I thought about using epoxy but figured that with different thermal
coefficients the 5200 might be better.  I'll barrier coat and paint over it
as usual.  Hopefully in the fall when back on the hard I can simply unscrew
the plug and the pipe fitting will stay put.

Nathan Post
S/V Wisper
1981 C 34
Lynn MA
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Re: Stus-List Water in rudder

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

It's more or less a normal degradation - stated differently as "common
problem".  I had mine rebuilt at a considerable cost and only a few years
later it showed signs of having become water logged again.  Being water
logged is not really the problem, freezing and corrosion are.  I make sure
that my rudder does not freeze and as part of the rebuild the welds were
inspected and encapsulated.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 04:14 Joel Delamirande via CnC-List <
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> Is there a way to prevent water from going inside the rudder or is that
> normal
> --
> Joel Delamirande
> *www.jdroofing.ca *
>
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