Re: Stus-List Bow light

[David via CnC-List]

And per my prior post...wire is not moving. This is a fall job. Ugh.



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Subject: Re: Stus-List Bow light

I tried that.  It jammed and parted.  That's why is was such a PIA.

Good luck David!

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On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Rick Rohwer via CnC-List 
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I used the old wire to pull the new! It may have been dumb luck though! 
Sometimes even I get some dumb luck!
Rick
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On Aug 9, 2017, at 06:24, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
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It is a PIA job!  I manged to feed the wire from the bottom and grab the end of 
the wire with needle nose pliers at the exit hole.

Spray the wire with McLube.  It will feed easier.

Joel

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:53 AM, David via CnC-List 
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So I am trying to replace the bow light wire in the pulpit.   Tried to work the 
wire from both ends.   Nuthin.   Popped the pulpit leg where wire exits thru 
deck and it looks like a feeder tube thru the deck to lead the wire.   It seems 
I need to remove the whole pulpit to feed a new wire.

Am I missing something?

Thanks in advance.

1981 40-2.



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Re: Stus-List Bow light

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I tried that.  It jammed and parted.  That's why is was such a PIA.

Good luck David!


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On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Rick Rohwer via CnC-List <
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> I used the old wire to pull the new! It may have been dumb luck though!
> Sometimes even I get some dumb luck!
> Rick
> Paikea 37/40
> Friday Harbor until 10:00 today and then off to Orcas.
>
> Rick Rohwer
> 509 306 1094 <(509)%20306-1094>
>
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 06:24, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> It is a PIA job!  I manged to feed the wire from the bottom and grab the
> end of the wire with needle nose pliers at the exit hole.
>
> Spray the wire with McLube.  It will feed easier.
>
> Joel
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:53 AM, David via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> So I am trying to replace the bow light wire in the pulpit.   Tried to
>> work the wire from both ends.   Nuthin.   Popped the pulpit leg where wire
>> exits thru deck and it looks like a feeder tube thru the deck to lead the
>> wire.   It seems I need to remove the whole pulpit to feed a new wire.
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> 1981 40-2.
>>
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Re: Stus-List Bow light

[Rick Rohwer via CnC-List]

I used the old wire to pull the new! It may have been dumb luck though! 
Sometimes even I get some dumb luck!
Rick
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Friday Harbor until 10:00 today and then off to Orcas.

Rick Rohwer 
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> On Aug 9, 2017, at 06:24, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> It is a PIA job!  I manged to feed the wire from the bottom and grab the end 
> of the wire with needle nose pliers at the exit hole.
> 
> Spray the wire with McLube.  It will feed easier.
> 
> Joel
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:53 AM, David via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> So I am trying to replace the bow light wire in the pulpit.   Tried to work 
>> the wire from both ends.   Nuthin.   Popped the pulpit leg where wire exits 
>> thru deck and it looks like a feeder tube thru the deck to lead the wire.   
>> It seems I need to remove the whole pulpit to feed a new wire.   
>> 
>> Am I missing something?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.  
>> 
>> 1981 40-2.   
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Bow light

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

It is a PIA job!  I manged to feed the wire from the bottom and grab the
end of the wire with needle nose pliers at the exit hole.

Spray the wire with McLube.  It will feed easier.

Joel

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:53 AM, David via CnC-List 
wrote:

> So I am trying to replace the bow light wire in the pulpit.   Tried to
> work the wire from both ends.   Nuthin.   Popped the pulpit leg where wire
> exits thru deck and it looks like a feeder tube thru the deck to lead the
> wire.   It seems I need to remove the whole pulpit to feed a new wire.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> 1981 40-2.
>
>
>
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Stus-List Bow light

[David via CnC-List]

So I am trying to replace the bow light wire in the pulpit.   Tried to work the 
wire from both ends.   Nuthin.   Popped the pulpit leg where wire exits thru 
deck and it looks like a feeder tube thru the deck to lead the wire.   It seems 
I need to remove the whole pulpit to feed a new wire.

Am I missing something?

Thanks in advance.

1981 40-2.



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Re: Stus-List Bow Light...now snaking best practices

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

I agree with Dennis, but I would use heat shrink sealed butt splices to 
lengthen the wires, then put some sort of disconnectable (is that a word) in a 
dry area (v-berth). Less chance of water getting into wires or connections. 


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 Original message From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 7/16/17  12:23  (GMT-08:00) To: CnClist 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Bow Light...now snaking best practices 
Some thoughts.
If it's a welded pulpit base, I'd snake it from the locker to the light.  You 
don't know what the base of the pulpit looks like.  The pulpit tube is probably 
1 inch but the size of the hole in the base is unknown.  The cable could get 
hung if the hole is small.
If you're feeding from the locker, you can manipulate the cable to get it 
through the base and into the pulpit tube.
Next, stagger the cuts in the wires in the duplex cable.  That is, cut one off 
shorter than the other.  That will allow you to taper the cable.  You don't 
want a big lumpy spot that will hang up.
Consider a messenger line.  But don't use a flimsy one because there may be 
sharp edges at the base or the opening near the light that may cut the line.
Tape the ends and coat the tape with liquid soap.
You probably don't need more than 16 AWG for the run.
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA
On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 1:21 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
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Doug...you nailed it.   Corroded connectors on anchor locker.   Should have 
thought of that myself.



So the connector was right where one of the wires exits the pulpit through deck 
so I  Need to run a new duplex wire through pulpit.   



My history of successfuly snaking wire is at best spotty.  And I do want to 
screw this one up.



Suggestions in connecting the new wire  to the old wire to assure we have a 
successful replacement?



Again thanks in advance. 



1981 40-2










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From: svpegasus38 via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 

Date: 7/16/17 1:40 PM (GMT-05:00) 

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Cc: svpegasus38 <svpegasu...@gmail.com> 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Bow Light... 




You have a corroded wire/connection somewhere in the run. Most likely it is in 
or near the anchor locker. Or the fixture its self.Look for corrosion at any 
location where moisture could be. Water can wick up a wire several feet 
corroding it all the way.
 You can splice on new wire maybe in v-berth using the heat shrink butt 
splices.  










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From: David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Date: 7/16/17 10:18 (GMT-08:00) 
To: CNC CNC <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: David <davidrisc...@msn.com> 
Subject: Stus-List Bow Light... 




...is only producing 6.75 volts.  I suspect it's grounding somewhere along its 
run. Before I do the dreaded refeeding of a new wire...any thoughts out there 
as to what I  might be missing?



FYI...Stern light is working fine...



Thanks in advance...










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Re: Stus-List Bow Light...now snaking best practices

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Some thoughts.

If it's a welded pulpit base, I'd snake it from the locker to the light.
You don't know what the base of the pulpit looks like.  The pulpit tube is
probably 1 inch but the size of the hole in the base is unknown.  The cable
could get hung if the hole is small.

If you're feeding from the locker, you can manipulate the cable to get it
through the base and into the pulpit tube.

Next, stagger the cuts in the wires in the duplex cable.  That is, cut one
off shorter than the other.  That will allow you to taper the cable.  You
don't want a big lumpy spot that will hang up.

Consider a messenger line.  But don't use a flimsy one because there may be
sharp edges at the base or the opening near the light that may cut the line.

Tape the ends and coat the tape with liquid soap.

You probably don't need more than 16 AWG for the run.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 1:21 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Doug...you nailed it.   Corroded connectors on anchor locker.   Should
> have thought of that myself.
>
> So the connector was right where one of the wires exits the pulpit through
> deck so I  Need to run a new duplex wire through pulpit.
>
> My history of successfuly snaking wire is at best spotty.  And I do want
> to screw this one up.
>
> Suggestions in connecting the new wire  to the old wire to assure we have
> a successful replacement?
>
> Again thanks in advance.
>
> 1981 40-2
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: svpegasus38 via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Date: 7/16/17 1:40 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: svpegasus38 <svpegasu...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Bow Light...
>
> You have a corroded wire/connection somewhere in the run. Most likely it
> is in or near the anchor locker. Or the fixture its self.Look for corrosion
> at any location where moisture could be. Water can wick up a wire several
> feet corroding it all the way. You can splice on new wire maybe in v-berth
> using the heat shrink butt splices.
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> Doug Mountjoy
> POYC
> Pegasus (for sale)
> Lf38
> Significant Other
> LF39
>
>  Original message 
> From: David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Date: 7/16/17 10:18 (GMT-08:00)
> To: CNC CNC <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: David <davidrisc...@msn.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Bow Light...
>
> ...is only producing 6.75 volts.  I suspect it's grounding somewhere along
> its run. Before I do the dreaded refeeding of a new wire...any thoughts out
> there as to what I  might be missing?
>
> FYI...Stern light is working fine...
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Bow Light...now snaking best practices

[David via CnC-List]

Doug...you nailed it.   Corroded connectors on anchor locker.   Should have 
thought of that myself.

So the connector was right where one of the wires exits the pulpit through deck 
so I  Need to run a new duplex wire through pulpit.

My history of successfuly snaking wire is at best spotty.  And I do want to 
screw this one up.

Suggestions in connecting the new wire  to the old wire to assure we have a 
successful replacement?

Again thanks in advance.

1981 40-2



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From: svpegasus38 via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 7/16/17 1:40 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: svpegasus38 <svpegasu...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Bow Light...

You have a corroded wire/connection somewhere in the run. Most likely it is in 
or near the anchor locker. Or the fixture its self.Look for corrosion at any 
location where moisture could be. Water can wick up a wire several feet 
corroding it all the way. You can splice on new wire maybe in v-berth using the 
heat shrink butt splices.



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Doug Mountjoy
POYC
Pegasus (for sale)
Lf38
Significant Other
LF39

 Original message 
From: David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 7/16/17 10:18 (GMT-08:00)
To: CNC CNC <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: David <davidrisc...@msn.com>
Subject: Stus-List Bow Light...

...is only producing 6.75 volts.  I suspect it's grounding somewhere along its 
run. Before I do the dreaded refeeding of a new wire...any thoughts out there 
as to what I  might be missing?

FYI...Stern light is working fine...

Thanks in advance...



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Re: Stus-List Bow Light...

[David via CnC-List]

Fixture has been tested and is fine.

 But good suggestion about the anchor locker.

Thanks!



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From: svpegasus38 via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 7/16/17 1:40 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: svpegasus38 <svpegasu...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Bow Light...

You have a corroded wire/connection somewhere in the run. Most likely it is in 
or near the anchor locker. Or the fixture its self.Look for corrosion at any 
location where moisture could be. Water can wick up a wire several feet 
corroding it all the way. You can splice on new wire maybe in v-berth using the 
heat shrink butt splices.



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POYC
Pegasus (for sale)
Lf38
Significant Other
LF39

 Original message 
From: David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 7/16/17 10:18 (GMT-08:00)
To: CNC CNC <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: David <davidrisc...@msn.com>
Subject: Stus-List Bow Light...

...is only producing 6.75 volts.  I suspect it's grounding somewhere along its 
run. Before I do the dreaded refeeding of a new wire...any thoughts out there 
as to what I  might be missing?

FYI...Stern light is working fine...

Thanks in advance...



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Re: Stus-List Bow Light...

[svpegasus38 via CnC-List]

You have a corroded wire/connection somewhere in the run. Most likely it is in 
or near the anchor locker. Or the fixture its self.Look for corrosion at any 
location where moisture could be. Water can wick up a wire several feet 
corroding it all the way. You can splice on new wire maybe in v-berth using the 
heat shrink butt splices.  


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 Original message From: David via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 7/16/17  10:18  (GMT-08:00) To: CNC CNC 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: David <davidrisc...@msn.com> Subject: Stus-List Bow 
Light... 

...is only producing 6.75 volts.  I suspect it's grounding somewhere along its 
run. Before I do the dreaded refeeding of a new wire...any thoughts out there 
as to what I  might be missing?



FYI...Stern light is working fine...



Thanks in advance...










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Stus-List Bow Light...

[David via CnC-List]

...is only producing 6.75 volts.  I suspect it's grounding somewhere along its 
run. Before I do the dreaded refeeding of a new wire...any thoughts out there 
as to what I  might be missing?

FYI...Stern light is working fine...

Thanks in advance...



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