Re: Is "-init" really needed?

2017-08-09 Thread Leo
I love "new". Why type more and clutter your code when you don't have to. Cheers, Leo On 8/8/17 12:45 PM, Alex Zavatone wrote: I see it creeping back in to use with some people, but IMO, new bears too many references to other languages’ use of new. It seems too close to how it would be

Re: Is "-init" really needed?

2017-08-09 Thread Doug Hill
> On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Uli Kusterer wrote: > > On 8. Aug 2017, at 18:38, Doug Hill wrote: >> As others have mentioned, I too have never seen any evidence or statements >> from Apple that discourages +new or -init. Or designated

Re: Is "-init" really needed?

2017-08-09 Thread Doug Hill
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 3:01 AM, Alastair Houghton > wrote: > > On 8 Aug 2017, at 17:38, Doug Hill wrote: >> >> As others have mentioned, I too have never seen any evidence or statements >> from Apple that discourages +new or -init. > > I

Re: Is "-init" really needed?

2017-08-09 Thread Alastair Houghton
On 8 Aug 2017, at 17:38, Doug Hill wrote: > > As others have mentioned, I too have never seen any evidence or statements > from Apple that discourages +new or -init. I suspect it was ObjC programmers themselves rather than Apple/NeXT that discouraged it. As for why, well