> On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Uli Kusterer <witness.of.teacht...@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 8. Aug 2017, at 18:38, Doug Hill <cocoa...@breaqz.com> wrote:
>> As others have mentioned, I too have never seen any evidence or statements 
>> from Apple that discourages +new or -init. Or designated initializers.
> I never said anything about init or designated initializers. In fact, ObjC 
> gained support for marking designated initializers fairly recently.

I was responding to a lot of different issues in my email, not necessarily just 
yours. My apologies if it came off that way.

But, that said, designated initializers have been in the Objective-C 
Programming Guide from Apple since at least 2003 (the earliest version of the 
document I can find). And this pattern probably originated in the NeXT days. 
What are the recent developments in designated initializers?

Doug Hill

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