On 2 Dec 2012, at 01:00, Dave Fernandes wrote:
On 2012-12-01, at 5:05 PM, Mike Abdullah cocoa...@mikeabdullah.net wrote:
On 1 Dec 2012, at 20:21, Dave Fernandes wrote:
NSPersistentDocument always creates a MOC of type
NSMainQueueConcurrencyType, even if it is created on a background
On 30 Nov 2012, at 23:05, Dave Fernandes dave.fernan...@utoronto.ca wrote:
On 2012-11-30, at 4:46 PM, Mike Abdullah cocoa...@mikeabdullah.net wrote:
On 30 Nov 2012, at 18:59, Dave Fernandes dave.fernan...@utoronto.ca wrote:
On 2012-11-30, at 6:42 AM, Mike Abdullah
On 2012-12-01, at 11:42 AM, Mike Abdullah cocoa...@mikeabdullah.net wrote:
One way to look at it is that NSPersistentDocument pretty much painted
itself into a corner from day 1, and it's too messy for Apple to untangle
that.
Can you elaborate?
Well it makes the assumptions that your
NSPersistentDocument always creates a MOC of type NSMainQueueConcurrencyType,
even if it is created on a background thread. So as long as things don't go
wrong during document opening, everything will be the same as a document
opened on the main thread forever after.
Whoops! I meant to say
On 1 Dec 2012, at 20:21, Dave Fernandes wrote:
NSPersistentDocument always creates a MOC of type
NSMainQueueConcurrencyType, even if it is created on a background thread. So
as long as things don't go wrong during document opening, everything will be
the same as a document opened on the
On 1 Dec 2012, at 20:12, Dave Fernandes wrote:
On 2012-12-01, at 11:42 AM, Mike Abdullah cocoa...@mikeabdullah.net wrote:
One way to look at it is that NSPersistentDocument pretty much painted
itself into a corner from day 1, and it's too messy for Apple to
untangle that.
Can you
On 2012-12-01, at 5:12 PM, Mike Abdullah cocoa...@mikeabdullah.net wrote:
- is comprised of a single Core Data store
- has a single managed object context
This definitely limits your options. But, is it necessary to support file
wrappers and iCloud? (Just trying to educate myself about
On 2012-12-01, at 5:05 PM, Mike Abdullah cocoa...@mikeabdullah.net wrote:
On 1 Dec 2012, at 20:21, Dave Fernandes wrote:
NSPersistentDocument always creates a MOC of type
NSMainQueueConcurrencyType, even if it is created on a background thread.
So as long as things don't go wrong during
On 30 Nov 2012, at 01:16, Sean McBride s...@rogue-research.com wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:43:36 +, Mike Abdullah said:
With all the different features of the document system these days, it
can be pretty hard to slot them all in nicely with Core Data. People may
find
On 2012-11-30, at 6:42 AM, Mike Abdullah cocoa...@mikeabdullah.net wrote:
On 30 Nov 2012, at 01:16, Sean McBride s...@rogue-research.com wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:43:36 +, Mike Abdullah said:
With all the different features of the document system these days, it
can be pretty
On 30 Nov 2012, at 18:59, Dave Fernandes dave.fernan...@utoronto.ca wrote:
On 2012-11-30, at 6:42 AM, Mike Abdullah cocoa...@mikeabdullah.net wrote:
One way to look at it is that NSPersistentDocument pretty much painted
itself into a corner from day 1, and it's too messy for Apple to
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:46:24 +, Mike Abdullah said:
Can you elaborate?
Well it makes the assumptions that your document:
- is comprised of a single Core Data store
- has a single managed object context
- works entirely on the main thread
- only ever saves on top of itself, or to a new
On 01/12/2012, at 9:01 AM, Sean McBride s...@rogue-research.com wrote:
Could be. But Apple could have provided a NSPersistentDocument2 class that
people could opt into. But they haven't.
Have you noticed that they never do this though? It must be some sort of policy
because there are
On Sat, 1 Dec 2012 09:49:23 +1100, Graham Cox said:
Could be. But Apple could have provided a NSPersistentDocument2 class
that people could opt into. But they haven't.
Have you noticed that they never do this though? It must be some sort of
policy because there are numerous examples where a
On 2012-11-30, at 4:46 PM, Mike Abdullah cocoa...@mikeabdullah.net wrote:
On 30 Nov 2012, at 18:59, Dave Fernandes dave.fernan...@utoronto.ca wrote:
On 2012-11-30, at 6:42 AM, Mike Abdullah cocoa...@mikeabdullah.net wrote:
One way to look at it is that NSPersistentDocument pretty much
On 10 Nov 2012, at 18:28, Sean McBride wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:09:58 +, Luke Hiesterman said:
File wrappers don't make it inherently easier or harder to deal with
iCloud. File packages (which you would use file wrappers to represent)
can be elegant means of wrapping up document
On 10 Nov 2012, at 21:36, Gordon Apple wrote:
I don¹t know about iCloud, but I finally got file wrappers working for my
NSPersistentDocument subclass. It wasn¹t easy. I use a separate folder for
stored files, sibling to my coreData storage, in the same package. I based
it losely on the
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:43:36 +, Mike Abdullah said:
With all the different features of the document system these days, it
can be pretty hard to slot them all in nicely with Core Data. People may
find https://github.com/karelia/BSManagedDocument pretty handy for this
(the real meat is in the
Well, if you are lobbying for features, IMHO, they should also at least
include simple migration.
On 11/29/12 7:16 PM, Sean McBride s...@rogue-research.com wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:43:36 +, Mike Abdullah said:
With all the different features of the document system these days, it
The wrapper functionality is a remnant of NSPersistentDocument but I don't use
it anymore. Thanks for your answers, this was helpful.
On Nov 10, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Sean McBride s...@rogue-research.com wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:09:58 +, Luke Hiesterman said:
File wrappers don't make
File wrappers don't make it inherently easier or harder to deal with iCloud.
File packages (which you would use file wrappers to represent) can be elegant
means of wrapping up document data because it allows for easy separation of
distinct components, and are usually recommended if they at all
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:09:58 +, Luke Hiesterman said:
File wrappers don't make it inherently easier or harder to deal with
iCloud. File packages (which you would use file wrappers to represent)
can be elegant means of wrapping up document data because it allows for
easy separation of distinct
I don¹t know about iCloud, but I finally got file wrappers working for my
NSPersistentDocument subclass. It wasn¹t easy. I use a separate folder for
stored files, sibling to my coreData storage, in the same package. I based
it losely on the NSPersistentDocumentFileWrappers sample, then let my
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