Re: printing black

2019-01-22 Thread Jeremy Hughes
> On 22 Jan 2019, at 18:23, Alastair Houghton  
> wrote:
> 
> There’s often a printer setting on users’ printers to tell them to use (just) 
> black ink.

This also shows up in Cocoa Print dialogs under “Printer features” or as a 
“Greyscale” checkbox. I have it turned on by default.

Jeremy

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Re: printing black

2019-01-22 Thread Alastair Houghton
On 22 Jan 2019, at 08:16, Georg Seifert  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I have a app that can print black shapes (using normal cocoa view based 
> printing). A lot users complain that the printouts are not really black (the 
> printouts are rastered, so the color sync tries to simulate a CMJK black but 
> even thou that it is black already). 
> 
> We played around with the pdf made form the print dialog. Printing that from 
> Adobe Acrobat produces the same results. But Acrobat has an option to convert 
> the PDF to optimise it for Digital printing. It attaches a genericGrayscale 
> profile to the PDF. 
> 
> Does any have a hint what to do? 

There’s often a printer setting on users’ printers to tell them to use (just) 
black ink.  OTOH I think the problem is that Quartz by default prints using 
“rich black” (i.e. C+M+Y+K) rather than black, which is *sometimes* the right 
thing to do and makes sense in some respects, but when you really want *just 
black* it’s annoying.

It’s probably also muddy looking on many inkjet printers.

I don’t know whether it’s possible use color spaces to tell Quartz to use just 
plain black.  It quite probably is (you might find using CMYK colours and just 
picking K will work, I don’t know; ColorSync could still interfere, mind).

Kind regards,

Alastair.

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Re: printing black

2019-01-22 Thread Richard Charles

> On Jan 22, 2019, at 1:16 AM, Georg Seifert  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I have a app that can print black shapes (using normal cocoa view based 
> printing). A lot users complain that the printouts are not really black (the 
> printouts are rastered, so the color sync tries to simulate a CMJK black but 
> even thou that it is black already). 
> 
> We played around with the pdf made form the print dialog. Printing that from 
> Adobe Acrobat produces the same results. But Acrobat has an option to convert 
> the PDF to optimise it for Digital printing. It attaches a genericGrayscale 
> profile to the PDF. 
> 
> Does any have a hint what to do? 
> 
> Thanks
> Georg

The Mac has not handled monochrome black & white printing correctly for 
decades. I wrote an Automation action to repetitively apply a “Lightness 
Decrease” quartz filter to pdf documents that effectively changes a color pdf 
into a black & white monochrome pdf. It works well.

--Richard Charles

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printing black

2019-01-22 Thread Georg Seifert
Hi

I have a app that can print black shapes (using normal cocoa view based 
printing). A lot users complain that the printouts are not really black (the 
printouts are rastered, so the color sync tries to simulate a CMJK black but 
even thou that it is black already). 

We played around with the pdf made form the print dialog. Printing that from 
Adobe Acrobat produces the same results. But Acrobat has an option to convert 
the PDF to optimise it for Digital printing. It attaches a genericGrayscale 
profile to the PDF. 

Does any have a hint what to do? 

Thanks
Georg
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