> On Oct 11, 2019, at 5:29 PM, tblenko--- via Cocoa-dev
> wrote:
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> Me, I still don’t understand why, given the long history of support at
> Apple/NeXT for C++
…what?
> and the maturity of the compilers available, there is any need for Swift. But
> there it is. Or, there they are. Perhaps
> On Oct 11, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Kirk Kerekes via Cocoa-dev
> wrote:
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> It is my inference that Swift arose out of a perceived need for a language
> that strongly inhibited bad/lazy/sloppy programming practices, and yet looked
> “normal”.
Here is my take. I think Swift came from the mind of
I think Swift came out for the Apple’s desire to make it even more appealing to
develop for its platforms. I don’t know over the years how many times I’ve
heard people bitching about Objective-C and its “weird” syntax. People couldn’t
get over it. Swift makes it easy for all the throngs of Java
Yeah I think Apple saw Obj-C as a barrier for developer adoption. I don't
think that's too far from the truth considering the emphasis on teaching
Swift to young devs, Playgrounds, the marketing about teenagers making
their first app, etc.
Swift has its quirks but most people around me prefer it
—Jens
> On Oct 11, 2019, at 3:32 PM, tblenko--- via Cocoa-dev
> wrote:
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> I attended a public (technical) talk in Town Hall (I think it’s called) at
> Apple shortly before or after I went to work there. It would have been around
> 2000-2001.
>
> The speaker’s message was that the future
> On Oct 12, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Pier Bover via Cocoa-dev
> wrote:
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> Yeah I think Apple saw Obj-C as a barrier for developer adoption. I don't
> think that's too far from the truth considering the emphasis on teaching
> Swift to young devs, Playgrounds, the marketing about teenagers making
>
> On Oct 12, 2019, at 11:24 AM, Charles Srstka wrote:
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> The string nil checks, in particular,
This was meant to be “The strict nil checks.” Ah, the joy of mailing lists,
where there’s no edit feature.
Charles
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> Le 12 oct. 2019 à 03:07, 조성빈 via Cocoa-dev a
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>> 2019. 10. 12. 오전 9:55, Richard Charles via Cocoa-dev
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>>> On Oct 11, 2019, at 1:14 PM, Turtle Creek Software via Cocoa-dev
>>> wrote:
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> I know this is the Cocoa devs list... but why not make a
> 2019. 10. 12. 오후 7:52, Jean-Daniel 작성:
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>>> Le 12 oct. 2019 à 03:07, 조성빈 via Cocoa-dev a
>>> écrit :
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>>> 2019. 10. 12. 오전 9:55, Richard Charles via Cocoa-dev
>>> 작성:
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On Oct 11, 2019, at 1:14 PM, Turtle Creek Software via Cocoa-dev
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> On Oct 11, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Charles Srstka via Cocoa-dev
> wrote:
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>> On Oct 11, 2019, at 5:29 PM, tblenko--- via Cocoa-dev
>> wrote:
>> and the maturity of the compilers available, there is any need for Swift.
>> But there it is. Or, there they are. Perhaps this is the way the younger
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