Re: [docs] opensource and quality control

2002-05-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wednesday 15 May 2002 07:45, David Crossley wrote: . . . So, let us develop a procedure whereby the opensource model is still employed, yet there is initial quality control. . . . Following the opensource model, I think docs should be released as early as possible, with only minimal

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Re: [docs] opensource and quality control

2002-05-15 Thread Stephan Michels
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Wednesday 15 May 2002 07:45, David Crossley wrote: . . . So, let us develop a procedure whereby the opensource model is still employed, yet there is initial quality control. . . . Following the opensource model, I think docs should be

nice editor app

2002-05-15 Thread Jeremy Quinn
Dear All, Sorry if this is noise I just found a new (to me) editor that works very well with XML. It is a general purpose code editor which merely has facilities for XML. JEdit http://www.jedit.org What I like about it: handles entity resolution catalogs validates

Re: nice editor app

2002-05-15 Thread Tom Klaasen
I'm using this one for about 9 months, and that says enough, doesn't it? You also have a lot of plugins, which beautify java code, auto-complete of variables, etc etc. The most important (imho) is the fact that you can do everything (at least, everything I do: java progging, xml editing, text

Re: [docs] opensource and quality control

2002-05-15 Thread Gerhard Froehlich
Hi, I think that we already have this. It is the duty of the committer to undertake initial quality control when they accept the patch from Bugzilla and prepare for their commit. If they do not know anything about the topic, then they should not be taking on the patch - let someone else do it.

[VOTE] Patching unstable (was: RE: [docs] opensource and quality control)

2002-05-15 Thread Morrison, John
From: Gerhard Froehlich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I think that we already have this. It is the duty of the committer to undertake initial quality control when they accept the patch from Bugzilla and prepare for their commit. If they do not know anything about the topic, then they should

Re: [docs] opensource and quality control

2002-05-15 Thread Diana Shannon
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Wednesday 15 May 2002 07:45, David Crossley wrote: . . . So, let us develop a procedure whereby the opensource model is still employed, yet there is initial quality control. . . . Following the opensource model, I think docs should be released as early as

Re: [docs] opensource and quality control

2002-05-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wednesday 15 May 2002 12:13, Diana Shannon wrote: . . . b) each doc has a unique ID Do we really need unique ID attribute if filename is unique, or is this short-sighted? . . Unique filenames would work for sure, doesn't have to be numerical, just pratical to include in the subject

Re: [docs] opensource and quality control

2002-05-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wednesday 15 May 2002 11:20, Stephan Michels wrote: . . . The best way to do this, is to implement the CVS support in cocoon. . . . Yes sure, but there's no such thing today AFAIK - I was trying to suggest a concrete solution that can be implemented right away. -Bertrand

Re: nice editor app

2002-05-15 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Jeremy Quinn wrote: Dear All, Sorry if this is noise I just found a new (to me) editor that works very well with XML. It is a general purpose code editor which merely has facilities for XML. JEdit http://www.jedit.org Nice if you have a fast machine. Sadly

RE: [doc] volunteer, grouping topics

2002-05-15 Thread TREGAN Fabien
One of the main problem I hade when I started using web documented project (it was CSS docs, XML/DOM, XSL, tomcat, I was young :) was to find a doc I can understand. Later, my problem was to find a doc without all that newbies blabla. So I think that best topics grouping is the

Re: [doc] volunteer, grouping topics

2002-05-15 Thread Gerhard Froehlich
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-cocoon2/src/documentation/xdocs/drafts/newtoc.txt?only_with_tag=MAIN Greets Gerhard -- Gerhard Fröhlich IBM Account Austria - 00/627 BIS e-business integration services IBM Austria / Vienna

Re: [VOTE] Patching unstable (was: RE: [docs] opensource and quality control)

2002-05-15 Thread Konstantin Piroumian
From: Morrison, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Gerhard Froehlich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I think that we already have this. It is the duty of the committer to undertake initial quality control when they accept the patch from Bugzilla and prepare for their commit. If they do not know

Re: [VOTE] Patching unstable (was: RE: [docs] opensource and quality control)

2002-05-15 Thread Gerhard Froehlich
Hi, From: Gerhard Froehlich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I think that we already have this. It is the duty of the committer to undertake initial quality control when they accept the patch from Bugzilla and prepare for their commit. If they do not know anything about the topic, then they

RE: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION

2002-05-15 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
From: David Helms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Are you still seeing messages and crashes like I show below? I am a developer at BMC Software, and we are seeing crash messages like this while the WebHelp applet we are using is loading the contents pane for a sample help page. We are using

Re: [docs] opensource and quality control

2002-05-15 Thread Torsten Curdt
On Wednesday 15 May 2002 12:00, Gerhard Froehlich wrote: Hi, I think that we already have this. It is the duty of the committer to undertake initial quality control when they accept the patch from Bugzilla and prepare for their commit. If they do not know anything about the topic, then

RE: [docs] opensource and quality control

2002-05-15 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
From: Torsten Curdt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Wednesday 15 May 2002 12:00, Gerhard Froehlich wrote: Hi, I think that we already have this. It is the duty of the committer to undertake initial quality control when they accept the patch from Bugzilla and prepare for their

RE: nice editor app

2002-05-15 Thread Berin Loritsch
From: Tom Klaasen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I'm using this one for about 9 months, and that says enough, doesn't it? You also have a lot of plugins, which beautify java code, auto-complete of variables, etc etc. The most important (imho) is the fact that you can do everything

Re: TR: [doc] volunteer, grouping topics

2002-05-15 Thread Per-Olof Norén
I personally would like something like a component refererence (similar to the one that exists today, extended/rewised). This would include the Cocoon Internals that carlos suggests below. I´m a litte fed up with looking at the code just to remember the attributes/elements/namespaces for a given

Re: TR: [doc] volunteer, grouping topics

2002-05-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
From: Per-Olof Norén [EMAIL PROTECTED] I personally would like something like a component refererence (similar to the one that exists today, extended/rewised). This would include the Cocoon Internals that carlos suggests below. I´m a litte fed up with looking at the code just to remember the

Re: [docs] opensource and quality control

2002-05-15 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
I second Bertrand. Iterative documentation works for other Apache projects as well. As long as there are inline notes asking for improvement, the doc will eventually improve. - Original Message - From: Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15,

Re: TR: [doc] volunteer, grouping topics

2002-05-15 Thread Diana Shannon
Perhaps a volunteer could compile the result of this thread, turn it into a Cocoon Document Dream List, and submit it as a new planning doc patch. We have a *great* start with Gerhard's original document. When volunteer asks to contribute/enhance existing docs, they can consult with this

RE: nice editor app

2002-05-15 Thread Artur Bialecki
The BEST thing about jEdit is that you can lunch VIM/GVIM from it when you need the raw power that only VIM can provide. Artur... -Original Message- From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: nice

RE: [docs] opensource and quality control

2002-05-15 Thread Gerhard Froehlich
Hi, From: Torsten Curdt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Wednesday 15 May 2002 12:00, Gerhard Froehlich wrote: Hi, I think that we already have this. It is the duty of the committer to undertake initial quality control when they accept the patch from Bugzilla and prepare for their

Re: nice editor app

2002-05-15 Thread Simeon Walker
Wow, thanks for letting us know about this. It's a really nice editor. The number of plug-ins available and the ease of installing them is excellent. BTW, if you're using Linux it's worth getting Java 1.4 so that the mouse wheel works and the fonts look better. Sim Jeremy Quinn wrote: Dear

RE: nice editor app

2002-05-15 Thread Artur Bialecki
Use Java 1.4 on windoze as well, it doubles the speed. One currently missing plugin is access to CVS, but give it time. Artur... -Original Message- From: Simeon Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: nice editor

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 7507] - [PATCH] esql - support CLOB in get-xml

2002-05-15 Thread bugzilla
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Re: [docs] opensource and quality control

2002-05-15 Thread berni_huber
Hi, So what to do, what to do... ? As I understand the problem is to understand the total effects of a patch. Thus you path the code, try some sample, and if it works you say it is fixed. The side effects of a patch, or an enhancement you may or may not understand depending on the total

Re: [docs] opensource and quality control

2002-05-15 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Diana Shannon wrote: On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, at 05:20 AM, Stephan Michels wrote: The best way to do this, is to implement the CVS support in cocoon. But you still need some form of webapp front-end to address all CMS concerns. CVS versioning is insufficient, IMO. I were glad to

Getting test cases written

2002-05-15 Thread Ross Gardler
Thus after applying a patch, or implementing an enhancement you run the JUnit tests, and you might see - depending on the completness of the tests that still everything is fine, or the patch has some unwanted side effects. Thus building up a JUnit test base might help to keep a

Best way to build test webapps

2002-05-15 Thread Heidi Brannan
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 18:31:46 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Heidi Brannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this the best way to go about building and testing a cocoon webapp (see below)? I want to a) write a how to on how to build and test a webapp b) write an XMLForms How-To and

RE: Getting test cases written

2002-05-15 Thread John Morrison
Hi :) It looks like you've quite a lot of experience writting unit tests, would you mind giving us a hand starting them off? Thanks, J. From: Ross Gardler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: Getting test cases written I promise you that the speed of our bug fixes has improved since

Re: Getting test cases written

2002-05-15 Thread Ross Gardler
John Morrison wrote: It looks like you've quite a lot of experience writting unit tests, would you mind giving us a hand starting them off? Our main interest is in the Portal stuff (what's the progress on bringing that into the main branch) and the forms processing. The main thing for me

RE: Getting test cases written

2002-05-15 Thread John Morrison
The portal stuff has made it into HEAD. I don't know when HEAD will next be stable and I don't see the portal stuff being moved into the current branch at the moment. But any unit tests would be appreciated. J. From: Ross Gardler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] John Morrison wrote: It

RE: Getting test cases written

2002-05-15 Thread Bert Van Kets
I am using the portal in the development of my current project. I use it to provide a complete administrative system for the Belgium Society of Anesthesia and Resucitation. They will be able to manage all the data online and also edit the content of the public and member site. The portal is

Re: [docs] opensource and quality control

2002-05-15 Thread Stephan Michels
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Diana Shannon wrote: On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, at 05:20 AM, Stephan Michels wrote: The best way to do this, is to implement the CVS support in cocoon. But you still need some form of webapp front-end to address all CMS concerns.

RE: Caching for database driven sites

2002-05-15 Thread Geoff Howard
Marcelo (and anyone else listening) - I'm a co-worker of Steve's who you responded to below. I had been looking at your ESI submission (though from the past threads we saw it looked like it had been put on hold for inclusion in cocoon and I don't find it in the latest snapshot) and we're not

Re: Getting test cases written

2002-05-15 Thread Ross Gardler
Bert Van Kets wrote: I am using the portal in the development of my current project. snip They have done a stress load up to 80 concurrent users with great success. Bert That is very encouraging, we need 50 concurrent users now, and 100 in 6 months. So it looks very promising indeed.

HTML Serializer issue

2002-05-15 Thread Fernando Padilla
Hello. We are developing a site and we're having an issue with the HTML serializer, it seems to be adding a newline after before every br/ tag, but not if it's preceded by an img/ tag. Now, most of the time this is not an issue, but we have a table cell with nobrOption 1/nobrbr/ nobrOption

Re: [docs] opensource and quality control

2002-05-15 Thread Torsten Curdt
On Wednesday 15 May 2002 16:27, Gerhard Froehlich wrote: snip/ Agree ... but they must get re-viewed and applied somehow. If not, Cocoon will stand still and the community breaks. aggreed... snip/ Maybe we try too hard to keep HEAD stable? That's the point. But nobody stated this, or?

Re: Getting test cases written

2002-05-15 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
This sounds like a good idea. I also have good overall experience with a rigorous unit testing process. Maybe the section on Contributions should add: Submit a unit test along with the patch to cover the error or new functionality. This way unit tests can be added gradually over time, as Ross

XSLTC and Cocoon

2002-05-15 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Is someone actively working on integrating XSLTC in Cocoon? Stefano felt strongly that XSLTC should be ultimately the default stylesheet processor in Cocoon. Can someone comment on how far are we from this goal? People keep discussing benchmarks for various XSLT interpreters, trying to make

Re: Getting test cases written

2002-05-15 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
I would certainly appreciate some help with unit tests for the XMLForm framework. That is, if it satisfies your needs as a form handling solution. If there is no hard oposition, it may move to the main tree with the 2.1 release. There are a few test cases implemented, but they only scratch the