Re: The organization of xml.apache.org

2002-12-04 Thread Steven Punte
Now that's VERY INTERESTING. There could easily be hundreds of such voilations alreadyexisting, andit wouldn'tbe obvious or easily observable. Iguess the process is we just wait until a patent holder has an objection. Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [let's keep

Re: The organization of xml.apache.org

2002-12-03 Thread Steven Punte
Ted: Can you give us a couple examples, without exposing anything sensitive, of previous litigation and or attempted litigation against Apache open source members? It would be very helpful to have some understanding of how and why this can come about so that we can adopt a preventive posture.

Re: The organization of xml.apache.org

2002-12-03 Thread Steven Noels
[let's keep this on [EMAIL PROTECTED] please] Steven Punte wrote: To date, my understanding of open source software is that it expresses no warranty at all. I'm unclear on what basis someone would be held libel in a legal action. Patent infringements? /Steven -- Steven Noels

Re: The organization of xml.apache.org

2002-12-03 Thread Ryan Hoegg
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: What I like most about such a proposal is that it is completely up to the commiters to decide whether they want opt in or opt out. What do others think? It continues to sound reasonable to me, but I'd personally like to see the Jakarta brand continue. Not sure how to

Re: The organization of xml.apache.org

2002-12-02 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
What I like most about such a proposal is that it is completely up to the commiters to decide whether they want opt in or opt out. What do others think? It continues to sound reasonable to me, but I'd personally like to see the Jakarta brand continue. Not sure how to *do* that... I don't

The organization of xml.apache.org

2002-12-02 Thread Ted Leung
Hello all, At ApacheCon I had a number of great discussions with people from all over the ASF. One of the many topics ofdiscussion wasaround the organization of the ASF. I'm going to try to summarize the organization discussion below. It seems thatthere are 2 major issues: 1. The ASF

Re: The organization of xml.apache.org

2002-12-02 Thread Sam Ruby
Ted Leung wrote: 4. Some option that hasn't been thought of yet. Based initially on the reorg discussions, and then a number of F2F discussions at ApacheCon, I am planning on proposing something radical within Jakarta, but it applies equally well here. I provided some foreshadowing for

Re: The organization of xml.apache.org

2002-12-02 Thread Steven Noels
[suggestion to hold this discussion only on [EMAIL PROTECTED] from now?] Sam Ruby wrote: Separate code bases with separate communities should be separate projects. Independent of the size of the codebase, if the size of the community is only a few people, then it is not an ASF project.

Re: The organization of xml.apache.org

2002-12-02 Thread Matt Sergeant
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