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Karen Coyle wrote:
The ones that really puzzle me, however, are the OpenURL info namespace
URIs for ftp, http, https and info. This implies that EVERY
identifier used by OpenURL needs an info URI, even if it is a URI in its
own right. They are under info:ofi/nam which is called Namespace
I'm open to seeing new approaches to the ILS in general. A related
question I had the other day, speaking of MARC, is what would an
alternative bibliographic data format look like if it was designed with
the intent for opening access to the data our ILS systems to developers
in a more informal
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Peter Schlumpf wrote:
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I want to get back to simple things. Imagine if there were no Marc
records. Minimal layers of abstraction. No politics. No vendors. No
SQL straightjacket. What would an ILS look like without those things?
Sometimes the biggest prison
The linked open data crowd might suggest:
Bibliographic Ontology Specification (aka bibo)
http://bibliontology.com/
Abstract: The Bibliographic Ontology Specification provides main
concepts and properties for describing citations and bibliographic
references (i.e. quotes, books, articles, etc) on
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
Joe Hourcle wrote:
Perhaps a slightly different perspective on looking at requirements:
What should be easier to do, but is a pain currently?
My answers to that won't point to a more simplified data structure I think
some are hoping
I know that a large percentage of the data in our
MARC records is not being used for finding/gathering
or even display, so in that case, what good is it?
This is, of course, a chicken and egg thing. The reason why a lot of MARC data
remains inconsistent is precisely because it is not being
Well, the future of ILS is to use general computing standards without
making library's own.
Essentially, from a computing theory view, a graph is the way to present
all the info (i.e. a graph can represent a tree, or a line. When you
look at MARC, it is a linear computing model.) Graph is
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
My problem with bibo is that it's strongly oriented toward academic journal
articles... I would like to see a comparison to MARC, if anyone has done
that, which might give us an idea of what isn't there. For example, I don't
It is designed as a container for citations. Articles are one such
example, but that well-understood format is not BIBO's main focus.
They've been going after the tough ones, including legal cases,
conference presentations, letters, etc. Oh, yeah, books, book
chapters, quotations. For a partial
Cloutman, David wrote:
I'm open to seeing new approaches to the ILS in general. A related
question I had the other day, speaking of MARC, is what would an
alternative bibliographic data format look like if it was designed with
the intent for opening access to the data our ILS systems to
Ross Singer wrote:
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
My problem with bibo is that it's strongly oriented toward academic journal
articles... I would like to see a comparison to MARC, if anyone has done
that, which might give us an idea of what isn't there.
The TEI format does a decent job of representing bibliographic
information. The TEI approach is to treat all instances of bibliographic
reference as similarly as possible. So the title page of a work, the
reference markers in the text and the references at the end of the work
are all
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
Still looks pretty limited to me. What academics cite isn't a full
bibliographic universe. No music, no films, no way to do realia. And citing
isn't the same as bibliographic description. Don't get me wrong, I think
it's very
Ross Singer wrote:
Right, but that's how it would work. If these resources were modeled
in RDF, they'd have URIs. What you would do is to say 'bibliographic
things' you'd use bibo attributes with the URI. To say work grouping
things you'd use FRBR/FRAR attributes with the URI.
So as long as
Sorry, spoke/wrote too soon. FRBR at vocab.org isn't using the FRBR
attributes either. And it does have the entities as classes. I'm still
not sure how one can model a relationship between RDA or bibo properties
and FRBR Group 1 entities and their properties. RDA tries to assign
descriptive
Karen Coyle wrote:
Sorry, spoke/wrote too soon. FRBR at vocab.org isn't using the FRBR
attributes either. And it does have the entities as classes. I'm still
not sure how one can model a relationship between RDA or bibo properties
and FRBR Group 1 entities and their properties. RDA tries to
Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
I'm curious why you think that doesn't work? Isn't place of
publication a characteristic of a particular manifestation? While,
title, according to traditional library practices where you take it
from the title page, is also a characteristic of a particular
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