True. How, from the OpenURL, are you going to know that the rft is meant
to represent a website?
I guess that was part of my question. But no one has suggested defining a new
metadata profile for websites (which I probably would avoid tbh). DC doesn't
seem to offer a nice way of doing this (that
I agree with this Rosalyn. The issue that Nate brought up was that the content
at http://www.bbc.co.uk could change over time, and old content might be moved
to another URI - http://archive.bbc.co.uk or something. So if course A
references http://www.bbc.co.uk on 24/08/09, if the content that
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I have been having fun recently indexing PDF files.
For the pasts six months or so I have been keeping the articles I've
read in a pile, and I was rather amazed at the size of the pile. It
was about a foot tall. When I read these articles I actively read
them -- meaning, I write, scribble,
you could force a timestamp if people don't include a date.
and I like the idea of going to the Internet Archive of a website,
because then you're not having to get into the business of handling
www.bbc.co.uk differently than cnn.com and someblog.org.
i also like the idea of using a redirect.
Eric,
I have librarians that would kill for this. In fact I was talking to
one about it the other day. She felt there must be a way to handle
active reading and make it portable. This would be great in
conjunction with RefWorks or Zotero or something along those lines.
Rosalyn
On Tue, Sep
Thanks Rosalyn,
As you say we could push a custom value into rfr_genre. I'm a bit torn on this,
as I guess I'm trying to do something that isn't 'hacky' - or at least not from
the OpenURL end of it. It might be that this is just wishful thinking, and that
I'm just trying to fool myself into
Eric,
5. Use pdttotext to extract the OCRed text
from the PDF and index it along with
the MyLibrary metadata using Solr. [3, 4]
Have you considered using Solr's ExtractingRequestHandler [1] for the
PDFs? We're using it at NYPL with pretty great success.
[1]
Hi all,
I would like to suggest an API for extracting text (including highlighted or
annotated ones) from PDF: iText (http://www.lowagie.com/iText/).
This is a Java API (has C# port), and it helped me a lot, when we worked
with extraordinary PDF files.
Solr uses Tika
My (much more primitive) version of the same thing involves reading and
annotating articles using my Tablet PC. Although I do get a variety of print
publications, I find I don't tend to annotate them as much anymore. I used
to use EndNote to do the metadata, then I switched to Zotero. I hadn't
Owen, I might have missed it in this message -- my eyes are starting
glaze over at this point in the thread, but can you describe how the
input of these resources would work?
What I'm basically asking is -- what would the professor need to do to
add a new: citation for a 70 year old book;
Ross - no you didn't miss it,
There are 3 ways that references might be added to the learning environment:
An author (or realistically a proxy on behalf of the author) can insert a
reference into a structured Word document from an RIS file. This structured
document (XML) then goes through a
A suggestion on how to get a prof to enter a url.
I use this bookmarklet to add a URL to Hacker News:
javascript:window.location=%22http://news.ycombinator.com/submitlink?u=%22+encodeURIComponent(document.location)+%22t=%22+encodeURIComponent(document.title)
I'm tempted to suggest an api
O.Stephens wrote:
True. How, from the OpenURL, are you going to know that the rft is meant
to represent a website?
I guess that was part of my question. But no one has suggested defining a new
metadata profile for websites (which I probably would avoid tbh). DC doesn't
seem to offer a
Wait, are you really going to try to do this with _SFX_ too? I missed
that part. Oh boy. Seriously, I think you are in for a world of painful
hacky kludge.
Rosalyn Metz wrote:
Owen,
The reason I suggest a source parser rather than a target parser is
that handling the openurl based on the
O.Stephens wrote:
Thanks Rosalyn,
As you say we could push a custom value into rfr_genre. I'm a bit torn on this,
as I guess I'm trying to do something that isn't 'hacky' - or at least not from
the OpenURL end of it. It might be that this is just wishful thinking, and that
I'm just trying to
Do you think? I reckon it is just a few lines of code in a custom source
parser... Only need to:
Check rft.id contains an http uri (regexp)
Define a fetchID based on this URI (possibly + date/other metadata)
Get a URL or null from a lookup service
Insert URL or rft_id value into rft.856
Simple!
Given that the burden of creating these links is entirely on RefWorks
Telstar, OpenURL seems as good a choice as anything (since anything
would require some other service, anyway). As long as the profs
aren't expected to mess with it, I'm not sure that *how* you do the
indirection matters all
Oh yeah, one thing I left off --
In Moodle, it would probably make sense to link to the URL in the a tag:
a href=http://bbc.co.uk/;The Beeb!/a
but use a javascript onMouseDown action to rewrite the link to route
through your funky link resolver path, a la Google.
That way, the page works like
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I'm thinking about it :)
Logically I think we can avoid this as we have the context based on the rfr_id
(for which we are proposing)
rfr_id=info:sid/learn.open.ac.uk:[course code] (at the risk of more comment!)
Which seems to me equivalent. I guess it is just a matter of where you do the
I think using locally meaningful ids in rft_id is a misuse and a
mistake. locally meaningful data should goi in rft_dat, accompanied by
rfr_id
just sayin'
On Sep 15, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
I do like Ross's solution, if you really wanna use OpenURL. I'm much
more
Yes, you can.
On Sep 15, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Ross Singer wrote:
I can't remember if you can include both metadata-by-reference keys
and metadata-by-value, but you could have by-reference
(rft_ref=http://telstar.open.ac.uk/1234rft_ref_fmt=RIS or something)
point at your citation db to return a
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Eric Hellman e...@hellman.net wrote:
Yes, you can.
In this case, I say punt on dc.identifier, throw the URL in rft_id
(since, Eric, you had some concern regarding using the local id for
this?) and let the real URL persistence/resolution work happen with
the
Hi Owen, all:
This is a very interesting problem.
At Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:04:09 +0100,
O.Stephens wrote:
[…]
If we look at a website it is pretty difficult to reference it
without including the URL - it seems to be the only good way of
describing what you are actually talking about (how many
Here's a post on how easy it is to send PDF documents to Solr from Java:
http://www.lucidimagination.com/blog/2009/09/14/posting-rich-documents-to-apache-solr-using-solrj-and-solr-cell-apache-tika/
Not only can you post PDF (and other rich content) files to Solr for
indexing, you can
The process by which a URI comes to identify something other than the
stuff you get by resolving it can be mysterious- I've blogged about a
bit: http://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/2009/07/illusion-of-internet-identity.html
In the case of worldcat or google, it's fame. If you think a URI
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