Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-04 Thread Shaun Ellis
On 12/3/12 2:14 PM, MJ Ray wrote: This listserv looks threaded to me. Maybe you need to upgrade Thunderbird, although I could have sworn it's done threaded for a while now. I was thinking of something that has a Vote to Promote feature. I feel that it's important to give folks a chance to

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-04 Thread Tom Keays
Or just use Reddit's OS codebase*. https://github.com/reddit Tom * though I'm personally hoping there won't be another channel to keep track of. On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Shaun Ellis sha...@princeton.edu wrote: On 12/3/12 2:14 PM, MJ Ray wrote: This listserv looks threaded to me.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-04 Thread Ross Singer
On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Tom Keays tomke...@gmail.com wrote: Or just use Reddit's OS codebase*. https://github.com/reddit Unless you're volunteering to host and maintain this... Seriously, folks, if we can't even figure out how to upgrade our Drupal instance to a version that was

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-04 Thread Cary Gordon
Okay, I will update Drupal. I was on track to do this last year, when I got hit on my bicycle by a hit-and-run driver. Really. Anyone here have a white vehicle with a me shaped dent in the hood? I will get with Ryan on this. Thanks for reminding me! (of the update, not the hit) Cary On Tue,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-04 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote: Anyone here have a white vehicle with a me shaped dent in the hood? Anyone here would have waited until _after_ you did the Drupal upgrade ;-) Kevin

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-04 Thread MJ Ray
Shaun Ellis sha...@princeton.edu On 12/3/12 2:14 PM, MJ Ray wrote: This listserv looks threaded to me. Maybe you need to upgrade Thunderbird, although I could have sworn it's done threaded for a while now. [...] Whether or not people would use such a tool in addition to the listserv, I

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-04 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 12/4/2012 12:10 PM, MJ Ray wrote: Really? I hoped if I wanted to do serious hacking, I could clone it on git.software.coop and send a pull request. If you use github *and insist everyone else does* then you lose all the decentralised networked collaboration benefits of git and it becomes a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-04 Thread Emily Morton-Owens
What about the sadly underutilized LIS Stack Exchange site? I think it would be great for organizing answers to the kind of questions that come up here and making the responses findable later, plus a lot of us probably already have accounts on Stack Overflow. http://libraries.stackexchange.com/

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-04 Thread MJ Ray
Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu On 12/4/2012 12:10 PM, MJ Ray wrote: Really? I hoped if I wanted to do serious hacking, I could clone it on git.software.coop and send a pull request. If you use github *and insist everyone else does* then you lose all the decentralised networked

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-04 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Okay, I guess that is a feature. It generates a plain text file you can send to someone else via email; the person can respond by taking manual action on their git command line. Definitely not the github pull requests people are used to. On 12/4/2012 1:16 PM, MJ Ray wrote: Jonathan Rochkind

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-03 Thread danielle plumer
I want to thank Karen and Wilhelmina especially for continuing this discussion. I've never attended a Code4Lib (though I did once offer to help organize one in Austin). This conversation is making me more willing to spend my own money to attend one. Danielle Cunniff Plumer On Sun, Dec 2, 2012

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-03 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Reddit tends to be a pretty segmented place, there are many subreddits that exist, IMO, as more or less 'culturally autonomous' from the rest of the reddit, with little interaction with other parts of reddit. Just people taking advantage of reddit to do their own thing. Reddit's UI makes it

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-03 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 12/2/2012 9:19 PM, Esmé Cowles wrote: I think this raises some interesting questions about community and appropriate use of the code4lib name. I just took a look at the code4lib reddit and there were comments from a handful of people. If a handful of people want to create some new channel

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-03 Thread Shaun Ellis
I'm not particularly sold on Reddit. I just think that there are some types of discussions that might be more constructive with a threaded forum than a listserv, just like there are some types of communication that are more suited to IRC or the wiki. In line with Jonathan's comments, we're

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-03 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I don't think running one's own Hacker News OR Reddit is a particularly sustainable thing to do. I say as someone who's looked into both, for daydreams of improving the planet.code4lib stuff. They're both fairly complicated codebases, with multiple components that need to be installed, and

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-03 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Shaun Ellis sha...@princeton.edu wrote: I only suggested and created the subreddit because it's easy to set up and requires very little maintenance. I, for one, am open to suggestions for tools with similar functionality, so long as they don't require too much

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-03 Thread Michael Schofield
What about Google Wave? Oh, wait -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark A. Matienzo Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:44 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-03 Thread Suchy, Daniel
, 2012 11:44 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Shaun Ellis sha...@princeton.edu wrote: I only suggested and created the subreddit because it's easy to set up and requires very little

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-03 Thread Karen Coyle
On 12/3/12 8:23 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: I believe that there are many sub-communities on reddit that do not have this misogyny problem, even if reddit's brand has sadly become known for misogyny. I could be wrong, but I'd suggest finding out by asking friends of yours that are

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-02 Thread Wilhelmina Randtke
At the end of this email, is the current default homepage of Reddit at this very moment. I only had to read down to the current 6th most popular post - 6th most popular of the ENTIRE REDDIT SITE - which is a man's reference to seeing a highschool classmate on Girls Gone Wild, then masturbating

Re: [CODE4LIB] Choosing fora. was: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

2012-12-02 Thread Esmé Cowles
I think this raises some interesting questions about community and appropriate use of the code4lib name. I just took a look at the code4lib reddit and there were comments from a handful of people. If a handful of people want to create some new channel and call it code4lib, is that OK? Who