TMI?
Sweating the details IS how you get good user experience design.
I am sometimes reminded of the Oscar Wilde quote:I was working on the
proof of one of my poems all the morning, and took out a comma. In the
afternoon I put it back again.
If you replace poem with site and comma with
That's a point well-taken and I totally agree. The amount of decisions and
back-and-forth with design is truly huge.
My thinking was that we would develop something like a primer for wide
circulation with the large volume of nitty-gritty best practices available
at a central location (in addition
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On the other hand, I'm looking for best practices that I call point librarians
to. And for that, having support from ALA/LITA
Of
Sean Hannan
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I'm just going to jump in here and question the need for it to be ALA or LITA
affiliated. Plenty of stuff has been
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I'm just going to jump in here and question the need for it to be ALA or
LITA affiliated. Plenty
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You will also have support from the LITA Board on this. The document/wiki can
be published/publicised far and wide. The UX IG can bring the document to the
board and ask for endorsement, which
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One approach you might take, is to do what the federal government and local
governments are increasingly doing: selectively adopt industry standards. So
like for building code. Most
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One approach you might take, is to do what the federal government and local
So many responses to address! ah!
The LITA support to this idea is lovely to see. Thank you very much.
I agree that code4lib is awesome and that we could potentially create a
document which would gain traction in the wider community BUT I really do
think official support/integration is the best
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I'm just going to jump in here and question the need for it to be ALA or
LITA affiliated. Plenty of stuff has been accomplished and respected
(like, oh, hey, code4lib) without an attachment
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Code4Lib
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Code4Lib is certainly respected among techy librarians, but I would bet that
90% of my coworkers have never heard of it and would not care especially
much
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Hello,
I don't think that there is anything like this. I think there are some
lone wolves out there who have suggested standards, but I haven't seen
anything similar to what has been
Josh, thanks for separating this topic out and starting this new thread. I
don't know of any such library standards that exist on the web. I agree
that this sounds like a great idea. As for this group or not... why not!
It's 2014 and they don't exist yet and they would be incredibly useful for
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Josh, thanks for separating this topic out and starting this new thread. I
don't know of any such library standards that exist
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Josh, thanks for separating this topic out and starting this new thread. I
don't know of any such library standards that exist on the web. I agree
that this sounds like a great idea
in mind at all : ).
Michael S.
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I agree that it would be a bad idea
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I am interested but I am a little hazy about what kind of standards you all
are suggesting. I would warn against creating standards that conflict with
any actual web standards
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Josh, thanks for separating this topic out and starting this new
thread. I don't know of any such library standards that exist on the
web. I
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Josh, thanks for separating this topic
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I agree that it would be a bad
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Josh, thanks for separating
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Josh, thanks for separating this topic out and starting this new
thread. I don't know of any such library standards that exist on the
web. I agree that this sounds like a great idea
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*puts on LITA hat*
There are several ways
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I am interested but I am a little hazy about what kind of standards you
all
are suggesting. I
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*puts on LITA hat*
There are several ways that LITA/ALA could play a role here.
Publications:
There is a series of books called LITA Guides. Great
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Oh, and if UX doesn't fit, y'all can establish the LITA Web Standards IG, or
the LITA
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Josh, thanks for separating this topic out and starting this new
thread. I don't know
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I've been following with interest, and I think some really
Megan,
useful for those of us who are no longer total beginners but are sort of
struggling to level up? - Love that description. I think the kind of guide
everyone is brainstorming would be great for everyone in that boat. (at
least as I'm picturing it)
Hopefully, it would be excellent for
: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kim,
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Jumping into this discussion late. Just wanted to let
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I've been following
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Bohyun,
That sounds like it could be a great fit
Welker
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Bohyun,
That sounds like it could be a great fit.
There would be two final products for what I have
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Josh, thanks for separating this topic out and starting this new
thread. I
don't know of any such library standards that exist on the web. I agree
that this sounds like a great idea
Hello,
I don't think that there is anything like this. I think there are some lone
wolves out there who have suggested standards, but I haven't seen anything
similar to what has been discussed. If there were, I'd think one of us would
know about it.
Count me in!
I say we create flexible
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