Re: [CODE4LIB] triple stores ???

2012-05-30 Thread Chris Fitzpatrick
Hey Ravi, I actually learned about TinkerPop from a posting on this list from Brian Tingle and I started playing with it and eventually started working with it for the digital repository we're building. I actually began with the Sail extension, but scaled back to non-RDF model on that after

Re: [CODE4LIB] triple stores ???

2012-05-29 Thread Stefano Bargioni
Maybe a G search can help to find comparisons: http://www.google.com/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=4sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=4store+Virtuoso+Jena+SDB++Mulgara The result includes your post... added 8 minutes ago. Stefano On 29/mag/2012, at 09.12, Ravi Shankar wrote: We (DLSS at Stanford Libraries)

Re: [CODE4LIB] triple stores ???

2012-05-29 Thread Chris Fitzpatrick
Hi Ravi, Yeah, if you haven't seen it yet, take a look at the first link (http://www.w3.org/wiki/LargeTripleStores) in the search results that Stefano included. A big question is if you're going to need reasoning capabilities. If that's the case, you'll probably want to look at the first 3 in

Re: [CODE4LIB] triple stores ???

2012-05-29 Thread Ravi Shankar
Thanks, Stefano. The Europeana report seems to be quite comprehensive. It is funny that I've searched earlier for triple store comparisons with more explicit parameters 'rdf triple store comparison', and the Europeana report appeared in the third page of the search results. The 'triple' in the

Re: [CODE4LIB] triple stores ???

2012-05-29 Thread Ethan Gruber
For those using these big triplestores, how are you putting data in? I'm looking for a triplestore which supports SPARQL update. Any comments anyone can add on this interface will be useful. Ethan On May 29, 2012 4:12 PM, Ravi Shankar rshan...@stanford.edu wrote: Thanks, Stefano. The

Re: [CODE4LIB] triple stores ???

2012-05-29 Thread Ravi Shankar
Hi Chris, We were currently leaning towards open-source triple stores. As far as inferencing goes, I suspect we will be doing at least transitive closures on rdfs:subClassOf and rdfs:subPropertyOf properties. I will look into TinkerPop. Are you currently using it, and for what purpose? I am

Re: [CODE4LIB] triple stores ???

2012-05-29 Thread Simon Spero
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Ravi Shankar rshan...@stanford.edu wrote: We were currently leaning towards open-source triple stores. As far as inferencing goes, I suspect we will be doing at least transitive closures on rdfs:subClassOf and rdfs:subPropertyOf properties. I will look into

Re: [CODE4LIB] triple stores ???

2012-05-29 Thread Fleming, Declan
Hi Ravi - I'll let some of my more technical folks chime in, but we do a bunch with RDF and have found every triplestore we've tried very limited in handling transactions. Reading and writing at the same time causes a deadlock that's a mess to keep clean. So, we went back where we started and

Re: [CODE4LIB] triple stores ???

2012-05-29 Thread Simon Spero
The latest version of Jena TDB adds atomic transactions (version 0.9.0+) See http://jena.apache.org/documentation/tdb/tdb_transactions.html for documentation: The following limitations are listed: - Bulk loads: the TDB bulk loader is not transactional - Nested transactions are not