Re: [CODE4LIB] Seth Godin on The future of the library
On 17 May 2011, at 11:18 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > On 5/16/2011 7:52 PM, Luciano Ramalho wrote: >> > And then we need to consider the rise of the Kindle. An ebook costs >> > about $1.60 in 1962 dollars. A thousand ebooks can fit on one device, >> >> 1) Why quote the ebook price in 1962 dollars? The reality in 2011 is >> that Kindle books in general are too expensive, particularly when > > Yeah, how much did a paperback book cost in 1962? 50 cents? $1? I wasn't > alive then, but I bet $1.60 is expensive in 1962 dollars! I usually use one of two inflation factors (the economists use a larger basket): a) what did that house have cost me then? b) what would I have earned on minimum wage then if I wasn't in a job that supplied room and board? In US, minimum wage in 1962 was $1.15/hour; in 2009 it was $7.25 (x6.3). I wish paperbacks had only inflated at that rate Local to where I am, the houses that in 1962 were offered for $12,000 go now in the $360,000 range (x30) That's actually not far off what I'm seeing for some of the "thicker" paperbacks this year. Walter Lewis
Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data endpoints
> -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Eric Lease Morgan > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:23 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data endpoints > > > What are some of the ways to best insert Linked Data endpoints into an > > XML file?... Given a name -- say, Plato or Thoreau -- how would one go about > > identifying good endpoints? What sort of query would I send to what sort > > of "database"? What might I get back? Assuming my goal is to enrich the > > text, what sort of link(s) should I insert into my XML? > > > Thank you for the helpful replies. > > When and if I do this work, I think I will use DBpedia and their lookup service. [1] > Here's how: > > * do named-entity recognition (NER) against my documents > * for each name, place or organization element in the resulting XML > o query DBpedia for URIs via their lookup service > o add 1 or more of the resulting URIs as attributes > of the name, place, or organization element > * end for Just as a tease: I'm actively working on implementing the Google/Freebase ReconciliationServiceAPI for our VIAF database. This will allow you to use the Google Refine service (or your own client software) to throw names and associated context information at me and get back a ranked list of candidate identities. You can find more information about the Reconciliation Service API at http://code.google.com/p/google-refine/wiki/ReconciliationServiceApi. I hope to have something working by the end of next week. (At least that's what I told my boss!) Ralph
Re: [CODE4LIB] Batchload update records transfer from Millennium to OCLC
A simple file transfer should not require such complicated looking instructions Have you identified where the process is breaking? For example, are you able to connect to OCLC? If so, can you authenticate and transfer a file? If the file transfers, have you transferred it to another place where you can verify that the file you're sending is good? BTW, Shirley is right. You do not need to be a member of IUG to participate on their list and view their archives. kyle On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Elisa Graydon wrote: > Unfortunately, we are no longer part of IUG. I am trying to transfer > directly from Mil to OCLC. The procedure I am using is from the OCLC > Batchload support site here: > > > http://www.oclc.org/support/documentation/batchprocessing/using/FTPInnovativeinstructions.pdf > > Thanks! > > Elisa > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of > Kyle Banerjee > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 12:28 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Batchload update records transfer from Millennium > to OCLC > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Elisa Graydon wrote: > > > Does anyone have any experience transferring records from Millennium to > > OCLC for batch load updating? I need to transfer records and every time I > > try, the transfer fails. I have called OCLC and Millennium multiple times > > and neither have been able to help me. It is not an issue with a > firewall. I > > really can't figure this out so any input would be greatly appreciated!!! > > > > The IUG list might be the ticket for this problem as there will be more > people who perform this specific operation. > > Are you trying to transfer directly from Mil to OCLC or are you downloading > to your computer first? Also, what is the procedure you are using, and > where > does the failure take place (i.e. connecting to OCLC, logging in, > transferring data, processing afterwards) > > kyle > -- -- Kyle Banerjee Digital Services Program Manager Orbis Cascade Alliance baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773
Re: [CODE4LIB] Seth Godin on The future of the library
It's obvious, isn't it? 1962 was the Best. Year. Ever. And it's all be downhill since then. :) --Joel On May 17, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Keith Jenkins wrote: > I always get suspicious when an author converts current prices into > 1962 dollars for no apparent reason, and without explanation. > > Keith > > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Roy Zimmer wrote: >> I think 50 cents would be right in the ballpark. My earliest scifi >> paperbacks cost me that much, mid-60's. >> >> Roy Zimmer >> Waldo Library >> Western Michigan University >> >> >> On 5/17/2011 11:18 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: >>> >>> On 5/16/2011 7:52 PM, Luciano Ramalho wrote: > And then we need to consider the rise of the Kindle. An ebook costs > about $1.60 in 1962 dollars. A thousand ebooks can fit on one device, 1) Why quote the ebook price in 1962 dollars? The reality in 2011 is that Kindle books in general are too expensive, particularly when >>> >>> Yeah, how much did a paperback book cost in 1962? 50 cents? $1? I wasn't >>> alive then, but I bet $1.60 is expensive in 1962 dollars! >>
Re: [CODE4LIB] Seth Godin on The future of the library
I think the 1962 dollars and the razor blades point both serve to paper over the main problem with the argument: Netflix is not free, and libraries are not driven by profit motive. On 5/17/11, Keith Jenkins wrote: > I always get suspicious when an author converts current prices into > 1962 dollars for no apparent reason, and without explanation. > > Keith > > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Roy Zimmer wrote: >> I think 50 cents would be right in the ballpark. My earliest scifi >> paperbacks cost me that much, mid-60's. >> >> Roy Zimmer >> Waldo Library >> Western Michigan University >> >> >> On 5/17/2011 11:18 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: >>> >>> On 5/16/2011 7:52 PM, Luciano Ramalho wrote: > And then we need to consider the rise of the Kindle. An ebook costs > about $1.60 in 1962 dollars. A thousand ebooks can fit on one device, 1) Why quote the ebook price in 1962 dollars? The reality in 2011 is that Kindle books in general are too expensive, particularly when >>> >>> Yeah, how much did a paperback book cost in 1962? 50 cents? $1? I >>> wasn't >>> alive then, but I bet $1.60 is expensive in 1962 dollars! >> > -- Matt Amory (917) 771-4157 matt.am...@gmail.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Seth Godin on The future of the library
On 5/17/11, Keith Jenkins wrote: > I always get suspicious when an author converts current prices into > 1962 dollars for no apparent reason, and without explanation. > > Keith > > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Roy Zimmer wrote: >> I think 50 cents would be right in the ballpark. My earliest scifi >> paperbacks cost me that much, mid-60's. >> >> Roy Zimmer >> Waldo Library >> Western Michigan University >> >> >> On 5/17/2011 11:18 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: >>> >>> On 5/16/2011 7:52 PM, Luciano Ramalho wrote: > And then we need to consider the rise of the Kindle. An ebook costs > about $1.60 in 1962 dollars. A thousand ebooks can fit on one device, 1) Why quote the ebook price in 1962 dollars? The reality in 2011 is that Kindle books in general are too expensive, particularly when >>> >>> Yeah, how much did a paperback book cost in 1962? 50 cents? $1? I >>> wasn't >>> alive then, but I bet $1.60 is expensive in 1962 dollars! >> > -- Matt Amory (917) 771-4157 matt.am...@gmail.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] Seth Godin on The future of the library
I always get suspicious when an author converts current prices into 1962 dollars for no apparent reason, and without explanation. Keith On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Roy Zimmer wrote: > I think 50 cents would be right in the ballpark. My earliest scifi > paperbacks cost me that much, mid-60's. > > Roy Zimmer > Waldo Library > Western Michigan University > > > On 5/17/2011 11:18 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: >> >> On 5/16/2011 7:52 PM, Luciano Ramalho wrote: >>> >>> > And then we need to consider the rise of the Kindle. An ebook costs >>> > about $1.60 in 1962 dollars. A thousand ebooks can fit on one device, >>> >>> 1) Why quote the ebook price in 1962 dollars? The reality in 2011 is >>> that Kindle books in general are too expensive, particularly when >> >> Yeah, how much did a paperback book cost in 1962? 50 cents? $1? I wasn't >> alive then, but I bet $1.60 is expensive in 1962 dollars! >
Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data endpoints [wikipedia-miner]
It also has a built-in ML-based disambiguator reportedly achieving a high F1-measure of 97.1 [1] [1] http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~dnk2/publications/CIKM08-LearningToLinkWith Wikipedia.pdf -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Eric Lease Morgan Sent: 17 May 2011 16:25 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data endpoints [wikipedia-miner] On May 16, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Arash.Joorabchi wrote: > If you think wikipedia articles could be used as good endpoints for your > purposes then have a look at this opensource tool > > http://wikipedia-miner.sourceforge.net/ Wikipedia-miner is a pretty cool tool; it is a good example of various text mining techniques. It even supports a Web services interface. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. -- Eric Morgan University of Notre Dame
Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data endpoints [wikipedia-miner]
On May 16, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Arash.Joorabchi wrote: > If you think wikipedia articles could be used as good endpoints for your > purposes then have a look at this opensource tool > > http://wikipedia-miner.sourceforge.net/ Wikipedia-miner is a pretty cool tool; it is a good example of various text mining techniques. It even supports a Web services interface. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. -- Eric Morgan University of Notre Dame
Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data endpoints
> What are some of the ways to best insert Linked Data endpoints into an > XML file?... Given a name -- say, Plato or Thoreau -- how would one go about > identifying good endpoints? What sort of query would I send to what sort > of "database"? What might I get back? Assuming my goal is to enrich the > text, what sort of link(s) should I insert into my XML? Thank you for the helpful replies. When and if I do this work, I think I will use DBpedia and their lookup service. [1] Here's how: * do named-entity recognition (NER) against my documents * for each name, place or organization element in the resulting XML o query DBpedia for URIs via their lookup service o add 1 or more of the resulting URIs as attributes of the name, place, or organization element * end for Once done I could use the enhanced XML file as the raw source for providing cool (and "kewl") services against the text -- word clouds, definitions, geo-locations, images, abstracts, find similar,purchase, print, do concordance against, etc. In the meantime, if I want to disambiguate I could go any number of routes. For example, I could crowd source the XML file allowing people to select the "correct" URI from each attribute listing. Alternatively, I could probably look for relationships between all the URIs in all the attributes and somehow statistically select the "correct" one. Whatever. So much of library work is spent "cataloging" things and trying to make them findable. I sincerely believe most people don't think this is a very relevant service these days. And I don't know about you, but I certainly don't feel starved for information. Instead, I think people want to make better use of the content they have, and enriching texts in the way outlined above may be one way of going about it. [1] lookup service - http://bit.ly/jbg0I6 -- Eric Lease Morgan University of Notre Dame
Re: [CODE4LIB] Seth Godin on The future of the library
I think 50 cents would be right in the ballpark. My earliest scifi paperbacks cost me that much, mid-60's. Roy Zimmer Waldo Library Western Michigan University On 5/17/2011 11:18 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: On 5/16/2011 7:52 PM, Luciano Ramalho wrote: > And then we need to consider the rise of the Kindle. An ebook costs > about $1.60 in 1962 dollars. A thousand ebooks can fit on one device, 1) Why quote the ebook price in 1962 dollars? The reality in 2011 is that Kindle books in general are too expensive, particularly when Yeah, how much did a paperback book cost in 1962? 50 cents? $1? I wasn't alive then, but I bet $1.60 is expensive in 1962 dollars!
Re: [CODE4LIB] Seth Godin on The future of the library
On 5/16/2011 7:52 PM, Luciano Ramalho wrote: > And then we need to consider the rise of the Kindle. An ebook costs > about $1.60 in 1962 dollars. A thousand ebooks can fit on one device, 1) Why quote the ebook price in 1962 dollars? The reality in 2011 is that Kindle books in general are too expensive, particularly when Yeah, how much did a paperback book cost in 1962? 50 cents? $1? I wasn't alive then, but I bet $1.60 is expensive in 1962 dollars!
Re: [CODE4LIB] Batchload update records transfer from Millennium to OCLC
I don't think you have to be a current IUG member to subscribe and post to the INNOPAC mailing list: http://innovativeusers.org/list/ Shirley On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Elisa Graydon wrote: > Unfortunately, we are no longer part of IUG. I am trying to transfer directly > from Mil to OCLC. The procedure I am using is from the OCLC Batchload support > site here: > > http://www.oclc.org/support/documentation/batchprocessing/using/FTPInnovativeinstructions.pdf > > Thanks! > > Elisa > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kyle > Banerjee > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 12:28 PM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Batchload update records transfer from Millennium to > OCLC > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Elisa Graydon wrote: > >> Does anyone have any experience transferring records from Millennium to >> OCLC for batch load updating? I need to transfer records and every time I >> try, the transfer fails. I have called OCLC and Millennium multiple times >> and neither have been able to help me. It is not an issue with a firewall. I >> really can't figure this out so any input would be greatly appreciated!!! >> > > The IUG list might be the ticket for this problem as there will be more > people who perform this specific operation. > > Are you trying to transfer directly from Mil to OCLC or are you downloading > to your computer first? Also, what is the procedure you are using, and where > does the failure take place (i.e. connecting to OCLC, logging in, > transferring data, processing afterwards) > > kyle >
Re: [CODE4LIB] Batchload update records transfer from Millennium to OCLC
Unfortunately, we are no longer part of IUG. I am trying to transfer directly from Mil to OCLC. The procedure I am using is from the OCLC Batchload support site here: http://www.oclc.org/support/documentation/batchprocessing/using/FTPInnovativeinstructions.pdf Thanks! Elisa -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kyle Banerjee Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 12:28 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Batchload update records transfer from Millennium to OCLC On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Elisa Graydon wrote: > Does anyone have any experience transferring records from Millennium to > OCLC for batch load updating? I need to transfer records and every time I > try, the transfer fails. I have called OCLC and Millennium multiple times > and neither have been able to help me. It is not an issue with a firewall. I > really can't figure this out so any input would be greatly appreciated!!! > The IUG list might be the ticket for this problem as there will be more people who perform this specific operation. Are you trying to transfer directly from Mil to OCLC or are you downloading to your computer first? Also, what is the procedure you are using, and where does the failure take place (i.e. connecting to OCLC, logging in, transferring data, processing afterwards) kyle
Re: [CODE4LIB] linked data endpoints
Setting aside the issue of disambiguation, dbpedia provides a linked data interface to the content of wikipedia. Connecting that to your XML is just a question of the document model you use. If you want to know whether endpoint a is the same as endpoint b in the linked data world you can try the sameas service. On 16 May 2011, at 15:37, Jon Gorman wrote: > Just to clarify, are you picturing some sort of feedback loop? I'm > just trying to get a better picture of the process (sounds like an > interesting project). > > In other words, do you have something like: > > 1) take in a full-text document (like, say, a novel?) > 2) Run it through NER, pull out locations, places, things. > 3) Have a user who's read the novel (or perhaps display those words in > context?) go through each the locations and pick a lat & long using > Google Maps as an interface. (Ie says this "Dublin" is Dublin, OH not > Dublin, Ireland). > 4) Do something similar with names, only using some sort of resource > like dbpedia to display possible individuals? > 5) markup the original file in an XML doc w/ identifiers around those > occurrences? > > Is that what you're picturing? > > Jon G. > > Who doesn't really know enough about linked data to contribute, but is > interested nonetheless.
