Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Karen Coombs
To offer a counterpoint to no PHP folks, One reason I like PHP is because right now its pretty much essential to know if you are using open source web applications like MediaWiki, Wordpress or Drupal. I feel like Javascript is also a must for web work. Personally, I'm also a fan of XSLT to do trans

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Roy Tennant
On Mar 24, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Tim wrote: Largest website in Perl: Del.icio.us Largest website in PHP: Facebook You're assuming the only use for a programming language is to dynamically serve up a web site. That would be a serious mistake. Roy

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Andrew Hankinson
On 24-Mar-10, at 8:21 PM, Paul Cummins wrote: On 3/24/2010 7:43 PM, David Kane wrote: A friend of mine once described PHP as 'brain-dead PERL', but I like and use both languages quite a bit. David. On 24 March 2010 23:17, Tim Spalding wrote: PHP. I have to agree with others - don't bothe

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Paul Cummins
On 3/24/2010 7:43 PM, David Kane wrote: A friend of mine once described PHP as 'brain-dead PERL', but I like and use both languages quite a bit. David. On 24 March 2010 23:17, Tim Spalding wrote: PHP. I have to agree with others - don't bother with PHP. Largest website in Perl: Del.icio.us

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread David Kane
A friend of mine once described PHP as 'brain-dead PERL', but I like and use both languages quite a bit. David. On 24 March 2010 23:17, Tim Spalding wrote: > > PHP. I have to agree with others - don't bother with PHP. > > Largest website in Perl: Del.icio.us > > Largest website in PHP: Facebook

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Tim Spalding
> PHP. I have to agree with others - don't bother with PHP. Largest website in Perl: Del.icio.us Largest website in PHP: Facebook Tim

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Smith,Devon
Language choice where there are no decisive external factors - like business requirements - is tricky. For most programmers, the language we prefer is nothing more than that - a preference. But new programmers by definition don't know enough to have a preference. If you're a free spirit and like e

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Dana Pearson
I've been focusing on XSL and XQuery, but Python's on my list to do although I want to do a turn in Perl first, very versatile. Just a javascript background. regards, dana On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:24 PM, jenny wrote: > A newly-minted library school grad who has up to this point focused my > stu

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Mar 24, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Laura Harris wrote: >> Just as important as the actual language may be the programming techniques >> you will have to learn. Now-a-day knowing how to read and write XML is >> almost >> imperative. Knowing how to do I/O against a database is all but necessary. >> Un

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Mark Tomko
I wouldn't recommend PHP to learn as a programming language, if your goal is to have a general purpose programming language at your disposal. PHP is a fine language for building dynamic web pages, but it won't help you to slice and dice a big text file or process a bunch of XML or do some other

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Joe Hourcle
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: On Mar 24, 2010, at 3:24 PM, jenny wrote: My question is, where would you recommend I would begin? What's hot right now in the library world? Python, PERL, Ruby? Any advice you'd have for a beginner like me or even recommendations for online course

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Ellen Knowlton Wilson
Kyle Banerjee wrote: [snip] Pick something that you need for a specific project. You already know how to program, so picking up a language for its own sake will mostly be an academic exercise for you. [snip] My advice would be to work on a project and if it calls for a language that you don

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Thomas Bennett
Not to start any flame wars, I'll have to agree with Rosalyn on Python. My favorite, one reason is the syntax requires readablity, for instance, indention is part of the syntax. And, I am running Zope/Plone servers (since 1992) which are written in C and python, and python scripting integrates

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Kyle Banerjee
> > > Just as important as the actual language may be the programming > techniques > > you will have to learn. Now-a-day knowing how to read and write XML is > almost > > imperative. Knowing how to do I/O against a database is all but > necessary. > > Understanding how to send URL's to remote resou

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Eric Celeste
I agree with the responses that suggest you look at the problems you want to solve and then decide which language, and more importantly which _community_ surrounding a language, is most in tune with solving those problems. If you are not sure what you want to solve, but just looking for ways to st

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Laura Harris
>>> On 3/24/2010 at 4:08 PM, wrote: [snip] > Just as important as the actual language may be the programming techniques > you will have to learn. Now-a-day knowing how to read and write XML is almost > imperative. Knowing how to do I/O against a database is all but necessary. > Understanding ho

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Kyle Banerjee
> > A newly-minted library school grad who has up to this point focused my > studies on Rare Books and Book Arts, I've been interested in getting > back into some programming--I took two classes in college > (VisualBASIC), have a smattering of web design and php, MySQL, > exposure, but I'd like to

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Mar 24, 2010, at 3:24 PM, jenny wrote: > My question is, where would you recommend I would begin? What's hot > right now in the library world? Python, PERL, Ruby? Any advice you'd > have for a beginner like me or even recommendations for online courses > would be extremely appreciated If you

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Ethan Gruber
Hi Jenny, What are your professional interests in the library? You should pick a language that is relevant and a useful tool for doing what interests you. Ethan On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Rosalyn Metz wrote: > Jenny, > > I discovered (i think through a code4libber) the other day a great

Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread Rosalyn Metz
Jenny, I discovered (i think through a code4libber) the other day a great series of videos on learning python. It was put out by Google as part of a series they do for their employees. http://code.google.com/edu/languages/ I myself don't know Python (i wish i did), but that section of the page

[CODE4LIB] newbie

2010-03-24 Thread jenny
A newly-minted library school grad who has up to this point focused my studies on Rare Books and Book Arts, I've been interested in getting back into some programming--I took two classes in college (VisualBASIC), have a smattering of web design and php, MySQL, exposure, but I'd like to try my hand

Re: [CODE4LIB] Related Items Bookshelf 1.0 Released

2010-03-24 Thread Gary Haggerty
On Mar 24, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Maccabee Levine wrote: D'oh! I typoed my own link. http://www.uwosh.edu/facstaff/levinem/projects/related-items-bookshelf Maccabee On 3/24/2010 11:20 AM, Maccabee Levine wrote: Hi all (but mostly Hi folks running Voyager), I'm happy to announce the release of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Related Items Bookshelf 1.0 Released

2010-03-24 Thread Maccabee Levine
I don't know of any developed for III, but I'd also be interested if you discover any. Maccabee On 3/24/2010 12:05 PM, Park,Go-Woon wrote: This is cool. Do you know any library has developed one or similar ones for III? Sarah -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code

Re: [CODE4LIB] Related Items Bookshelf 1.0 Released

2010-03-24 Thread Park,Go-Woon
This is cool. Do you know any library has developed one or similar ones for III? Sarah -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Maccabee Levine Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:29 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB

Re: [CODE4LIB] Related Items Bookshelf 1.0 Released

2010-03-24 Thread Maccabee Levine
D'oh! I typoed my own link. http://www.uwosh.edu/facstaff/levinem/projects/related-items-bookshelf Maccabee On 3/24/2010 11:20 AM, Maccabee Levine wrote: Hi all (but mostly Hi folks running Voyager), I'm happy to announce the release of the Related Items Bookshelf, a virtual shelf browsing

[CODE4LIB] Related Items Bookshelf 1.0 Released

2010-03-24 Thread Maccabee Levine
Hi all (but mostly Hi folks running Voyager), I'm happy to announce the release of the Related Items Bookshelf, a virtual shelf browsing tool designed for easy installation into the Voyager OPAC. "So easy, a caveman without a dedicated library sysadmin can do it." Like the great projects dem

Re: [CODE4LIB] List of MARC flavors

2010-03-24 Thread Simon Spero
Marcthulhu is issued by the LC Nonstandards Office, a body who's very existence is denied. Simon On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Roy Tennant wrote: > I think you're missing MARCthulu from your list. ;-) > Roy > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Houghton,Andrew > wrote: > > > Does anyone kno

[CODE4LIB] Positions Available - University of Michigan Library, User Experience Department

2010-03-24 Thread Varnum, Ken
I'm forwarding these job postings on behalf of a colleague - please direct any questions to her (contact information below). This is an exciting opportunity at the University of Michigan library. Ken Varnum -- Forwarded Message From: Suzanne Chapman Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:25:11 -0400 T

Re: [CODE4LIB] List of MARC flavors

2010-03-24 Thread Ere Maijala
Also worth taking a look at is the Z39.50 OID list: http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/oids.html --Ere On 23.3.2010 20:50, Houghton,Andrew wrote: Does anyone know where there might be a list of the various flavors of MARC? I currently have: marc21 usmarc US MARC Replaced by marc21