[CODE4LIB] FW: Logo vote

[Roy Tennant]

The results of the second logo vote are in[1], and Professional Option 1 was
the winner:

We accept Stephanie Brinley's kind offer, request a few different ideas,
vote on those ideas to settle on one, and the final version is created from
the winning idea.

The results were:

75 Professional Option 1
67 Combo Option
23 Professional Option 2

I think at this point it would be good to get some volunteers to help
shepherd the process. This is just to keep the process on track, all
decisions will be made, as always, by group vote. If you want to volunteer
to help out, let me know.

Also, Leslie Johnston said at one point "The key to working with a
professional is in identifying the design "program" ‹ what the
organization's "story" is, who its community is, and who you want to get
your message to with the branding, as well as identifying what uses the logo
will be used for ‹ print, promotional items (t-shirts, hats, temporary
tatoos, whatever), online ‹ which has on effect on the deliverables, e.g.
file sizes and formats." David Cloutman also talked about developing a
"requirements document" that could be vetted on the list. I'd like to
suggest that those who volunteer to manage the process draft something of no
more than one page in length to give to Stephanie to help provide her with
some background and guidance. We will then post it to the list for wider
feedback, revise it based on that feedback, and then contact Stephanie.

Please let me know if you want to help with this. Thanks,
Roy


[1] http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/voting_booth/election/results/6


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From: Roy Tennant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:53:07 -0700
To: Code for Libraries 
Subject: Logo vote

The logo voting seems to have died down at 109 votes cast, and it breaks
down like this (you can see these results at
):

No logo: 8%
Do it ourselves: 8%
Combo of professional designer and ourselves: 26%
Don't care: 27%
Professional designer: 31%

Since there was no clear majority, I think we should have a run-off between
the "combo" option and only a professional designer.

But I think the options should be more clearly stated than they were before
(sorry!):

Combo Option:
One person would receive all the designs from both internal designers and
any professional designers willing to submit designs for free, and they are
put up for a vote without anyone knowing who did which design.

Professional Option 1:
We accept Stephanie Brinley's kind offer, request a few different ideas,
vote on those ideas to settle on one, and the final version is created from
the winning idea.

Professional Option 2:
Hire a different professional designer (to be determined) from whom we
solicit a few different ideas, vote on the ideas, and the final version is
created from the winning idea.

Yes, consensus is tedious. Competing ideas, objections, embellishments
welcome. Otherwise, I'll set up another vote on the three options above and
the one with the most votes takes it.
Roy



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Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: Logo vote

[Kevin S. Clarke]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Roy Tennant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I don't really think "don't care" equates to "no logo", since it is
> more of an abstention than anything. And you won't find me trying to be
> funny in a vote again. So considering there was only 8% saying no, and 65%
> voting for some version of creating a logo, I felt like the question about
> whether to do it or not had been settled.

Okay.  Yes, I agree those two aren't the same.

Kevin

-- 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who believe there
are two kinds of people and those who know better.

Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: Logo vote

[Roy Tennant]

Well, I don't really think "don't care" equates to "no logo", since it is
more of an abstention than anything. And you won't find me trying to be
funny in a vote again. So considering there was only 8% saying no, and 65%
voting for some version of creating a logo, I felt like the question about
whether to do it or not had been settled. Therefore, I moved on to the
"how". If there are widespread objections I will reconsider, but it seemed
to me that the basic question had been decided.
Roy


On 10/10/08 10/10/08 € 7:39 AM, "Kevin S. Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi Roy,
> 
> Did we lose the "no logo" option?  I know this is an opportunity for
> refinement but the "no logo" and "I don't care" options in the last
> poll, when put together, had a pretty big total.  Perhaps we drop the
> "I don't care" which is nice for self expression, but doesn't really
> tell us much in the way of what we should do and just have a "no logo"
> option?
> 
> 2c
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Roy Tennant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Thanks to Ross Singer, the second vote on the logo idea is now open, and
>> will be open until Tuesday evening, 10:45-ish EST (I didn't make this up).
>> The options are listed below, as well as on the voting form. You will need
>> to have an account on http://code4lib.org/ in order to vote, and you use the
>> same login and password. Please see:
>> 
>> http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/voting_booth/election/index/6
>> 
>> And vote early and often!
>> Roy
>> 
>>> -- Forwarded Message
>>> From: Roy Tennant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:53:07 -0700
>>> To: Code for Libraries 
>>> Subject: Logo vote
>>> 
>>> The logo voting seems to have died down at 109 votes cast, and it breaks
>>> down like this (you can see these results at
>>> ):
>>> 
>>> No logo: 8%
>>> Do it ourselves: 8%
>>> Combo of professional designer and ourselves: 26%
>>> Don't care: 27%
>>> Professional designer: 31%
>>> 
>>> Since there was no clear majority, I think we should have a run-off between
>>> the "combo" option and only a professional designer.
>>> 
>>> But I think the options should be more clearly stated than they were before
>>> (sorry!):
>>> 
>>> Combo Option:
>>> One person would receive all the designs from both internal designers and
>>> any professional designers willing to submit designs for free, and they are
>>> put up for a vote without anyone knowing who did which design.
>>> 
>>> Professional Option 1:
>>> We accept Stephanie Brinley's kind offer, request a few different ideas,
>>> vote on those ideas to settle on one, and the final version is created from
>>> the winning idea.
>>> 
>>> Professional Option 2:
>>> Hire a different professional designer (to be determined) from whom we
>>> solicit a few different ideas, vote on the ideas, and the final version is
>>> created from the winning idea.
>>> 
>>> Yes, consensus is tedious. Competing ideas, objections, embellishments
>>> welcome. Otherwise, I'll set up another vote on the three options above and
>>> the one with the most votes takes it.
>>> Roy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
> 
> 

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Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: Logo vote

[Kevin S. Clarke]

Hi Roy,

Did we lose the "no logo" option?  I know this is an opportunity for
refinement but the "no logo" and "I don't care" options in the last
poll, when put together, had a pretty big total.  Perhaps we drop the
"I don't care" which is nice for self expression, but doesn't really
tell us much in the way of what we should do and just have a "no logo"
option?

2c

Kevin



On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Roy Tennant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks to Ross Singer, the second vote on the logo idea is now open, and
> will be open until Tuesday evening, 10:45-ish EST (I didn't make this up).
> The options are listed below, as well as on the voting form. You will need
> to have an account on http://code4lib.org/ in order to vote, and you use the
> same login and password. Please see:
>
> http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/voting_booth/election/index/6
>
> And vote early and often!
> Roy
>
>> -- Forwarded Message
>> From: Roy Tennant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:53:07 -0700
>> To: Code for Libraries 
>> Subject: Logo vote
>>
>> The logo voting seems to have died down at 109 votes cast, and it breaks
>> down like this (you can see these results at
>> ):
>>
>> No logo: 8%
>> Do it ourselves: 8%
>> Combo of professional designer and ourselves: 26%
>> Don't care: 27%
>> Professional designer: 31%
>>
>> Since there was no clear majority, I think we should have a run-off between
>> the "combo" option and only a professional designer.
>>
>> But I think the options should be more clearly stated than they were before
>> (sorry!):
>>
>> Combo Option:
>> One person would receive all the designs from both internal designers and
>> any professional designers willing to submit designs for free, and they are
>> put up for a vote without anyone knowing who did which design.
>>
>> Professional Option 1:
>> We accept Stephanie Brinley's kind offer, request a few different ideas,
>> vote on those ideas to settle on one, and the final version is created from
>> the winning idea.
>>
>> Professional Option 2:
>> Hire a different professional designer (to be determined) from whom we
>> solicit a few different ideas, vote on the ideas, and the final version is
>> created from the winning idea.
>>
>> Yes, consensus is tedious. Competing ideas, objections, embellishments
>> welcome. Otherwise, I'll set up another vote on the three options above and
>> the one with the most votes takes it.
>> Roy
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>



-- 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who believe there
are two kinds of people and those who know better.

[CODE4LIB] FW: Logo vote

[Roy Tennant]

Thanks to Ross Singer, the second vote on the logo idea is now open, and
will be open until Tuesday evening, 10:45-ish EST (I didn't make this up).
The options are listed below, as well as on the voting form. You will need
to have an account on http://code4lib.org/ in order to vote, and you use the
same login and password. Please see:

http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/voting_booth/election/index/6

And vote early and often!
Roy

> -- Forwarded Message
> From: Roy Tennant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:53:07 -0700
> To: Code for Libraries 
> Subject: Logo vote
>
> The logo voting seems to have died down at 109 votes cast, and it breaks
> down like this (you can see these results at
> ):
>
> No logo: 8%
> Do it ourselves: 8%
> Combo of professional designer and ourselves: 26%
> Don't care: 27%
> Professional designer: 31%
>
> Since there was no clear majority, I think we should have a run-off between
> the "combo" option and only a professional designer.
>
> But I think the options should be more clearly stated than they were before
> (sorry!):
>
> Combo Option:
> One person would receive all the designs from both internal designers and
> any professional designers willing to submit designs for free, and they are
> put up for a vote without anyone knowing who did which design.
>
> Professional Option 1:
> We accept Stephanie Brinley's kind offer, request a few different ideas,
> vote on those ideas to settle on one, and the final version is created from
> the winning idea.
>
> Professional Option 2:
> Hire a different professional designer (to be determined) from whom we
> solicit a few different ideas, vote on the ideas, and the final version is
> created from the winning idea.
>
> Yes, consensus is tedious. Competing ideas, objections, embellishments
> welcome. Otherwise, I'll set up another vote on the three options above and
> the one with the most votes takes it.
> Roy
>
>
>
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>
>
>


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