Re: [CODE4LIB] Koha in the Running

2012-01-17 Thread todd.d.robb...@gmail.com
Thanks all!

I am more curious about the general utility of Koha since each organization
will have different needs. I'm just thrilled to see Koha spreading and the
launch of foss4lib and other exciting developments in the LAM communities
as of late.

Cheers,

Tod

-- 
Tod Robbins
iSchool GSA Crew
MLIS Candidate 2012
University of Washington


Re: [CODE4LIB] Koha in the Running

2012-01-14 Thread MJ Ray
Jon Gorman 
> There's vendors/companies that develop for and support Koha.  Open
> source and vendor/commercial activity are not  mutually exclusive.

Yes, exactly!  I work for a commercial vendor (software.coop) which
has done all of the following combinations:
> Open Source ILS / local servers / no support contracts
> Open source ILS / hosted / no support contract
> Open source ILS / hosted / support contract
> Open source ILS / hosted / no support contract

We've even done Open Source ILS / local servers / multiple support contracts.

Someone else mentioned Marshall Breeding's ILS survey.  It has some
numbers, but I don't think they cover all of the above situations (so
we encourage most co-op libraries to report as Independent if at all),
as I comment almost every year (along with suggesting that having the
survey open-sourced could offer big improvements).

> And you could distinguish between support and development contracts,
> with the nice advantage of open source you can always change vendors
> or fund someone who's not your usual developer group depending on how
> the community around the project has been established.  Harder to do
> that with proprietary software, but I've still heard of it happening.

Even with open source, you have to make sure that you can export and
import your data.  Most vendors that support Koha-community.org do
offer that, in support of the Open Network Libraries idea.

Hope that informs,
-- 
MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op.
http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/


Re: [CODE4LIB] Koha in the Running

2012-01-12 Thread Oscar Gaona
http:/
Also, you may read the List of Paid Support Companies for Koha:

http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ 




Oscar Gaona
oscar.ga...@organizadatos.com
www.organizadatos.com





 From: Tod Olson 
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Koha in the Running
 
Also, suitability of any particular ILS will depend in part on the nature of 
the organization using. Academic libraries have different needs from publics, 
scale of the environment, staff resources and skill sets and willingness to 
learn, these all come in to play when evaluating an ILS or any other large 
piece of software.

-Tod

Tod Olson 
Systems Librarian    
University of Chicago Library



On Jan 12, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Genny Engel wrote:

> Todd, you might want to check out Marshall Breeding's annual ILS survey 
> results:
> 
> http://www.librarytechnology.org/perceptions2010.pl
> 
> He compiles responses from many hundreds of libraries re: open source and 
> proprietary ILSs.
> 
> Genny Engel
> Sonoma County Library
> gen...@sonoma.lib.ca.us
> 707 545-0831 x581
> www.sonomalibrary.org
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of 
> todd.d.robb...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:20 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Koha in the Running
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm curious to know of this lists current thoughts on Koha as an ILS. Where
> would you rank it among the various options, open source and vendor?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tod
> 
> PS: If this has been addressed recently and I just happened to miss it in
> the archives: my apologies.
> 
> -- 
> Tod Robbins
> iSchool GSA Crew
> MLIS Candidate 2012
> University of Washington


Re: [CODE4LIB] Koha in the Running

2012-01-12 Thread Tod Olson
Also, suitability of any particular ILS will depend in part on the nature of 
the organization using. Academic libraries have different needs from publics, 
scale of the environment, staff resources and skill sets and willingness to 
learn, these all come in to play when evaluating an ILS or any other large 
piece of software.

-Tod

Tod Olson 
Systems Librarian 
University of Chicago Library



On Jan 12, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Genny Engel wrote:

> Todd, you might want to check out Marshall Breeding's annual ILS survey 
> results:
> 
> http://www.librarytechnology.org/perceptions2010.pl
> 
> He compiles responses from many hundreds of libraries re: open source and 
> proprietary ILSs.
> 
> Genny Engel
> Sonoma County Library
> gen...@sonoma.lib.ca.us
> 707 545-0831 x581
> www.sonomalibrary.org
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of 
> todd.d.robb...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:20 AM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Koha in the Running
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm curious to know of this lists current thoughts on Koha as an ILS. Where
> would you rank it among the various options, open source and vendor?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tod
> 
> PS: If this has been addressed recently and I just happened to miss it in
> the archives: my apologies.
> 
> -- 
> Tod Robbins
> iSchool GSA Crew
> MLIS Candidate 2012
> University of Washington


Re: [CODE4LIB] Koha in the Running

2012-01-12 Thread Genny Engel
Todd, you might want to check out Marshall Breeding's annual ILS survey results:

http://www.librarytechnology.org/perceptions2010.pl

He compiles responses from many hundreds of libraries re: open source and 
proprietary ILSs.

Genny Engel
Sonoma County Library
gen...@sonoma.lib.ca.us
707 545-0831 x581
www.sonomalibrary.org


-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of 
todd.d.robb...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:20 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: [CODE4LIB] Koha in the Running

Hello all,

I'm curious to know of this lists current thoughts on Koha as an ILS. Where
would you rank it among the various options, open source and vendor?

Cheers,

Tod

PS: If this has been addressed recently and I just happened to miss it in
the archives: my apologies.

-- 
Tod Robbins
iSchool GSA Crew
MLIS Candidate 2012
University of Washington


Re: [CODE4LIB] Koha in the Running

2012-01-12 Thread Jon Gorman
> I'm curious to know of this lists current thoughts on Koha as an ILS. Where
> would you rank it among the various options, open source and vendor?


I'm confused, what do you mean by "open source and vendor"?

There's vendors/companies that develop for and support Koha.  Open
source and vendor/commercial activity are not  mutually exclusive.
Did you mean open source and proprietary?  There's lots of combination
of ILSes and how to manage them out there.

Open Source ILS / local servers / no support contracts
Open source ILS / hosted / no support contract
Open source ILS / hosted / support contract

Proprietary ILS / local servers / no support
Open source ILS / hosted / no support contract
Proprietary ILS / hosted / support

Some of those combinations are pretty rare, but I could see all of
them existing.

And you could distinguish between support and development contracts,
with the nice advantage of open source you can always change vendors
or fund someone who's not your usual developer group depending on how
the community around the project has been established.  Harder to do
that with proprietary software, but I've still heard of it happening.

Are you interested in stuff like that?

Or are you more just interested in how people's experience using Koha
software itself compared ot other ILS options out there? Or the actual
overall experience?  Or which Koha vendor is the best?

Jon G.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Koha in the Running

2012-01-12 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
The only thing I can say is be careful of PTFS/LibLime as a vendor. 
There are other vendors that provide Koha support in the US, however. 
http://bibwild.wordpress.com/2011/09/20/koha-support-or-hosting-options/


On 1/12/2012 1:19 PM, todd.d.robb...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello all,

I'm curious to know of this lists current thoughts on Koha as an ILS. Where
would you rank it among the various options, open source and vendor?

Cheers,

Tod

PS: If this has been addressed recently and I just happened to miss it in
the archives: my apologies.



[CODE4LIB] Koha in the Running

2012-01-12 Thread todd.d.robb...@gmail.com
Hello all,

I'm curious to know of this lists current thoughts on Koha as an ILS. Where
would you rank it among the various options, open source and vendor?

Cheers,

Tod

PS: If this has been addressed recently and I just happened to miss it in
the archives: my apologies.

-- 
Tod Robbins
iSchool GSA Crew
MLIS Candidate 2012
University of Washington