Re: [CODE4LIB] OpenContent SRU search of OAISter, weirdness?
Our SRU implementation is at level 0, for only keyword searching. We don't have any Boolean functionality. More here: http://www.oaister.org/sru.html Perry Willett Head, Digital Library Production Service 300 Hatcher North University of Michigan Ann Arbor MI 48109-1205 Ph: 734-764-8074 Fax: 734-647-6897 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Singer Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:10 AM To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OpenContent SRU search of OAISter, weirdness? It doesn't actually work with OAIster's own SRU interface, either. A query for the title works, but adding the author's name fails. OAIster's SRU implementation is very strange, though, so I could very well be doing something wrong. -Ross. On 10/25/07, Eric Lease Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 24, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > > > I have some behavior I can't explain. There's this article that is in > > OAISter, called ""Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational > > Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical > > Figures" > > by "Robert S. Jensen". > > > > I do an SRU search with query: > > dc.title = "Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, > > Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" > > And I find the record, one hit. Good. You too could try, and see what > > the DC returned looks like. It does have a dc:creator of Robert S. > > Jensen. > > > > But I try a search that includes the author. > > dc.title = "Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, > > Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" and > > dc.creator > > = "Jensen" > > > Yes, this looks weird to me too. I tried a number of query variations > and could not get a hit. > > -- > Eric Lease Morgan > Head, Digital Access and Information Architecture Department > University Libraries of Notre Dame > > (574) 631-8604 >
Re: [CODE4LIB] OpenContent SRU search of OAISter, weirdness?
Dumb question, no experience with the syntax, but should there be a wildcard -or- use of something other than equals (sorry, if I'm way off base, but most query syntax I use requires "like" or wildcarding). -t On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: That was a typo in my problem report, I'm afraid. I was actually searching Jansen, and that still exhibits the problems I mentioned. I've also moved this conversation to indexdata's own list for this service, at http://lists.indexdata.dk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/oclist (thanks to Jason Ronallo for bringing that list to my attention). Jonathan Joshua Santelli wrote: You're not getting any hits because the name is not Jensen, it's Jansen. I'm not sure where Jensen came from but the OAIster indexes here have Jansen. josh On 10/24/07 6:04 PM, "Jonathan Rochkind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm messing with SRU search of http://indexdata.dk/opencontent/oaister I have some behavior I can't explain. There's this article that is in OAISter, called ""Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" by "Robert S. Jensen". I do an SRU search with query: dc.title = "Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" And I find the record, one hit. Good. You too could try, and see what the DC returned looks like. It does have a dc:creator of Robert S. Jensen. But I try a search that includes the author. dc.title = "Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" and dc.creator = "Jensen" 0 hits. and cql.serverChoice = "Jensen"=> 0 hits Same using full name "Robert S. Jensen" (just as it appears in the record), with cql.serverChoice or dc.creator. Is this just a bad index, or is something else going on, or what? As I try sample searches on title and author, I keep running into false negatives for things that ought to be in the OAISter index. Sometimes I can figure out why (title not quite right; title has curly quotes, index does not, etc.), but in this case I have no idea. But the net result is it's hard to actually find your known item this way, via an automated search on known item metadata. Jonathan -- Jonathan Rochkind Digital Services Software Engineer The Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University 410.516.8886 rochkind (at) jhu.edu -- Jonathan Rochkind Digital Services Software Engineer The Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University 410.516.8886 rochkind (at) jhu.edu
Re: [CODE4LIB] OpenContent SRU search of OAISter, weirdness?
That was a typo in my problem report, I'm afraid. I was actually searching Jansen, and that still exhibits the problems I mentioned. I've also moved this conversation to indexdata's own list for this service, at http://lists.indexdata.dk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/oclist (thanks to Jason Ronallo for bringing that list to my attention). Jonathan Joshua Santelli wrote: You're not getting any hits because the name is not Jensen, it's Jansen. I'm not sure where Jensen came from but the OAIster indexes here have Jansen. josh On 10/24/07 6:04 PM, "Jonathan Rochkind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm messing with SRU search of http://indexdata.dk/opencontent/oaister I have some behavior I can't explain. There's this article that is in OAISter, called ""Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" by "Robert S. Jensen". I do an SRU search with query: dc.title = "Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" And I find the record, one hit. Good. You too could try, and see what the DC returned looks like. It does have a dc:creator of Robert S. Jensen. But I try a search that includes the author. dc.title = "Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" and dc.creator = "Jensen" 0 hits. and cql.serverChoice = "Jensen"=> 0 hits Same using full name "Robert S. Jensen" (just as it appears in the record), with cql.serverChoice or dc.creator. Is this just a bad index, or is something else going on, or what? As I try sample searches on title and author, I keep running into false negatives for things that ought to be in the OAISter index. Sometimes I can figure out why (title not quite right; title has curly quotes, index does not, etc.), but in this case I have no idea. But the net result is it's hard to actually find your known item this way, via an automated search on known item metadata. Jonathan -- Jonathan Rochkind Digital Services Software Engineer The Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University 410.516.8886 rochkind (at) jhu.edu -- Jonathan Rochkind Digital Services Software Engineer The Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University 410.516.8886 rochkind (at) jhu.edu
Re: [CODE4LIB] OpenContent SRU search of OAISter, weirdness?
You're not getting any hits because the name is not Jensen, it's Jansen. I'm not sure where Jensen came from but the OAIster indexes here have Jansen. josh On 10/24/07 6:04 PM, "Jonathan Rochkind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm messing with SRU search of http://indexdata.dk/opencontent/oaister > > I have some behavior I can't explain. There's this article that is in > OAISter, called ""Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational > Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" > by "Robert S. Jensen". > > I do an SRU search with query: > dc.title = "Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, > Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" > And I find the record, one hit. Good. You too could try, and see what > the DC returned looks like. It does have a dc:creator of Robert S. Jensen. > > But I try a search that includes the author. > dc.title = "Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, > Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" and dc.creator > = "Jensen" > > 0 hits. > and cql.serverChoice = "Jensen"=> 0 hits > > Same using full name "Robert S. Jensen" (just as it appears in the > record), with cql.serverChoice or dc.creator. > > Is this just a bad index, or is something else going on, or what? As I > try sample searches on title and author, I keep running into false > negatives for things that ought to be in the OAISter index. Sometimes I > can figure out why (title not quite right; title has curly quotes, index > does not, etc.), but in this case I have no idea. But the net result is > it's hard to actually find your known item this way, via an automated > search on known item metadata. > > Jonathan > > > -- > Jonathan Rochkind > Digital Services Software Engineer > The Sheridan Libraries > Johns Hopkins University > 410.516.8886 > rochkind (at) jhu.edu
Re: [CODE4LIB] OpenContent SRU search of OAISter, weirdness?
It doesn't actually work with OAIster's own SRU interface, either. A query for the title works, but adding the author's name fails. OAIster's SRU implementation is very strange, though, so I could very well be doing something wrong. -Ross. On 10/25/07, Eric Lease Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 24, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > > > I have some behavior I can't explain. There's this article that is in > > OAISter, called ""Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational > > Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical > > Figures" > > by "Robert S. Jensen". > > > > I do an SRU search with query: > > dc.title = "Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, > > Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" > > And I find the record, one hit. Good. You too could try, and see what > > the DC returned looks like. It does have a dc:creator of Robert S. > > Jensen. > > > > But I try a search that includes the author. > > dc.title = "Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, > > Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" and > > dc.creator > > = "Jensen" > > > Yes, this looks weird to me too. I tried a number of query variations > and could not get a hit. > > -- > Eric Lease Morgan > Head, Digital Access and Information Architecture Department > University Libraries of Notre Dame > > (574) 631-8604 >
Re: [CODE4LIB] OpenContent SRU search of OAISter, weirdness?
On Oct 24, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: I have some behavior I can't explain. There's this article that is in OAISter, called ""Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" by "Robert S. Jensen". I do an SRU search with query: dc.title = "Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" And I find the record, one hit. Good. You too could try, and see what the DC returned looks like. It does have a dc:creator of Robert S. Jensen. But I try a search that includes the author. dc.title = "Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" and dc.creator = "Jensen" Yes, this looks weird to me too. I tried a number of query variations and could not get a hit. -- Eric Lease Morgan Head, Digital Access and Information Architecture Department University Libraries of Notre Dame (574) 631-8604
[CODE4LIB] OpenContent SRU search of OAISter, weirdness?
I'm messing with SRU search of http://indexdata.dk/opencontent/oaister I have some behavior I can't explain. There's this article that is in OAISter, called ""Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" by "Robert S. Jensen". I do an SRU search with query: dc.title = "Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" And I find the record, one hit. Good. You too could try, and see what the DC returned looks like. It does have a dc:creator of Robert S. Jensen. But I try a search that includes the author. dc.title = "Resurrection and Appropriation: Reputational Trajectories, Memory Work, and the Political Use of Historical Figures" and dc.creator = "Jensen" 0 hits. and cql.serverChoice = "Jensen"=> 0 hits Same using full name "Robert S. Jensen" (just as it appears in the record), with cql.serverChoice or dc.creator. Is this just a bad index, or is something else going on, or what? As I try sample searches on title and author, I keep running into false negatives for things that ought to be in the OAISter index. Sometimes I can figure out why (title not quite right; title has curly quotes, index does not, etc.), but in this case I have no idea. But the net result is it's hard to actually find your known item this way, via an automated search on known item metadata. Jonathan -- Jonathan Rochkind Digital Services Software Engineer The Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University 410.516.8886 rochkind (at) jhu.edu
