Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-23 Thread Alexander Johannesen
On 3/23/07, Jeremy Frumkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: While OpenID has potential within certain contexts, I have difficulty seeing it being quickly adopted by libraries, universities, or other entities that need to relate real identities to an OpenID. OpenID doesn¹t do trust; it explicitly says i

[CODE4LIB] Position Available: Mgr of Data Systems (Greater Boston Metro Area, MA)

2007-03-23 Thread Patty De Anda
MANAGER OF DATA SYSTEMS The Company LAC is seeking candidates for the position of Manager of Data Systems for our client, a large legal rights management company. The Company is a not-for-profit service organization whose mission is to facilitate and support the sharing of copyrighted c

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-23 Thread Harrison Dekker
I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but it seems to me that another possible application of OpenID might be to uniquely digital identifier for authors. In other words, the OpenID could serve as a basis for a sort of open access authority control service (in addition to the obvious single sign-on pu

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-23 Thread Edward Summers
On Mar 23, 2007, at 1:21 AM, Alexander Johannesen wrote: I suspect most of our patrons are in the latter category, but hey, we're going to implement OpenID cross-system soon so at least we're trying. :) I think experimentation and research are needed in the application of openid in libraries...

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-23 Thread susan rector
i can see many library administrators being skeptical about openid... at my library we're actively looking at shibboleth. i don't know enough about either one yet to speak intelligently about them, but..doesn't shibboleth operate similarly to openid? cheers, susan Susan Teague Rector Library In

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-23 Thread David J. Fiander
Ross! You're not supposed to actually _say_ it! - David On 22-Mar-07, at 23:37 , Ross Singer wrote: On 3/22/07, Don McMorris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ryan's message (I guess seeing "academia") made me think of Athens, which made me further think "Hey, Subscription Databases are just ITCHI

[CODE4LIB] PHP Symfony

2007-03-23 Thread Antonio Barrera
Hello all, Have any of you used PHP Symfony in depth? Is it a fine reply to the Ruby on Rails fanatics or a waste of time? thanks, Antonio Barrera Library Web Development Manager Princeton University BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:([EMAIL PROTECTED]);Antonio Barrera FN:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-23 Thread Jeremy Frumkin
I believe Andy Powell wrote up a blog entry on this possibility... Yep, he did ­ it¹s aat http://efoundations.typepad.com/efoundations/2007/01/repositories_an.html -- jaf On 3/22/07 9:16 PM, "Harrison Dekker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but it seems to me t

[CODE4LIB] Position Announcement: Associate University Librarian for Information Technology - University of Minnesota

2007-03-23 Thread Shane Nackerud
University of Minnesota Libraries Associate University Librarian for Information Technology http://www.lib.umn.edu The University of Minnesota Libraries seek visionary and creative leadership for the position of Associate University Librarian for Information Technology (AUL-IT). Reporting to the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-23 Thread Thomas Dowling
My rule about Shibboleth is that it takes twice as long to implement as you planned, even if you take this rule into account. That was funny when we were in the second year of a one-year implentation timetable. Now that we're in the fifth year Thomas Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3/23/2007

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-23 Thread Ross Singer
Ah ha! /That's/ the problem with Shibboleth -- every time anyone tries to implement it, they say it incorrectly and are subsequently killed, sending the institution back to square one. -Ross. On 3/23/07, David J. Fiander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ross! You're not supposed to actually _say_

[CODE4LIB] E-Resource Access & Management Services

2007-03-23 Thread Ross Singer
ERAMS E-Resource Access & Management Services http://www.erams.org/ We are looking for the first 50 participants who are willing to visualize a library not focused solely on print resource management and willing to go out on a limb and conceptualize the library which is focused on user access and

Re: [CODE4LIB] E-Resource Access & Management Services

2007-03-23 Thread Karen Tschanz
Dear Ross: I'd love to have you host something in Georgia on this topic. Any chance? Thanks.kst Karen S. Tschanz, M.L.S., M.B.A., M.S.O.D. Asst. Prof./Chair, Content Management Robert B. Greenblatt, M.D., Library, AB-241 Medical College of Georgia 1451 Laney-Walker Boulevard Augusta, GA 30912 Ph

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-23 Thread Nathan Vack
On Mar 22, 2007, at 10:51 PM, Jeremy Frumkin wrote: It isn’t clear to me that there is enough added value to libraries at this point to adopt OpenID – of course, I’d be glad to buy someone a beer if they provide a use case to convince me otherwise ;-) OK, I'll bite: * We build a registry mapp

Re: [CODE4LIB] E-Resource Access & Management Services

2007-03-23 Thread Eric Hellman
I posted some comments in Web4Lib on this- but on code4lib, I'd like to be a bit more provocative and get y'all bothered. * What online resources would you collect? - "collection" of online resources is an oxymoron. * How would you connect people to these new collections? - why do you think it i

Re: [CODE4LIB] E-Resource Access & Management Services

2007-03-23 Thread Joe Hourcle
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Eric Hellman wrote: > I posted some comments in Web4Lib on this- but on code4lib, I'd like > to be a bit more provocative and get y'all bothered. > > * What online resources would you collect? Information of interest to the community we serve. > * How would you conne

Re: [CODE4LIB] PHP Symfony

2007-03-23 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
On 3/23/07, Antonio Barrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have any of you used PHP Symfony in depth? Is it a fine reply to the Ruby on Rails fanatics or a waste of time? Hmm? What's that you say? Just a sec, but in the meantime, why not sit down and have some of this delicious Kool-Aid over

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-23 Thread Jeremy Frumkin
Ok, so this is a good example for where I¹m failing to see the advantage to OpenID over the current local authentication provided by a university / library. Why would I need to use OpenID as opposed to my current account that my library provides me? As I understand the current OpenURL workflow, Ope

[CODE4LIB] New job announcement... Please post

2007-03-23 Thread Robin Speer
INFORMATION SYSTEMS SPECIALIST 5 - LIBRARY SYSTEMS COORDINATOR. The Oregon State Library is recruiting to fill the fulltime position of Library Systems Coordinator, assigned to the Government Research and Electronic Services (GRES) team. This position is located in Salem, Oregon. This position

Re: [CODE4LIB] GNU Metadata Exchange Utilities

2007-03-23 Thread Laurence Finston
Eric Lease Morgan wrote: > On Mar 21, 2007, at 5:07 AM, Laurence Finston wrote: > > Cool, and interesting. I think I speak for the community when I > sincerely say, "Good luck". > Thank you. > The goals you desire to achieve with the software are the same sorts > of goals many of us have. I'm s

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-23 Thread Nathan Vack
On Mar 23, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Jeremy Frumkin wrote: Ok, so this is a good example for where I’m failing to see the advantage to OpenID over the current local authentication provided by a university / library. Why would I need to use OpenID as opposed to my current account that my library provides

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-23 Thread Paul Miller
> Ultimately, I'd hope to see libraries agree on a set of attributes > for classifying patrons, building registries of trusted providers, > and using this as basis for offering services outside our own > institutions. (There's a "Mashing Up The Library" entrant floating > around in my mind, with th

[CODE4LIB] Voyager Hackfest Collaboration e-mail list created

2007-03-23 Thread Edward Corrado
Hello All, For those interested in the Voyager Hackfest Collaboration at EndUser, I have created an e-mail list to start planning and discussing it. To subscribe to the list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following request on the body: SUBSCRIBE VOYAGER-HACKFEST-L your-name Ju

[CODE4LIB] more code4lib conference feedback

2007-03-23 Thread LaJeunesse, Brad
Hi Folks, The conference center sent over the feedback they'd received, and Roy has kindly posted them with the other comments: http://roytennant.com/c4l2007/ Happy reading. ;) --Brad

Re: [CODE4LIB] Using OpenID in libraries

2007-03-23 Thread William Denton
On 22 March 2007, William Denton wrote: I hadn't been too clear on OpenID but a week or two ago I listened to a recording of a talk about that explained it well. I can't find it again, unfortunately, but you can take my word for it that it was pretty good. It was Simon Willison at the Future