[CODE4LIB] Next Generation ILS Project Annouced

2008-08-07 Thread John Little
Hi Code4Lib. Back in January I posted a brief message about a next-gen ILS project we are calling the Open Library Project. Thanks to generous support of the Andrew W. Mellon foundation the project received funding. Support is also being provided by a strong list of partners. The press release

[CODE4LIB] it's that time again: Hackfest of Access 2008!

2008-08-07 Thread John Fink
Hey code4lib folks, Access 2008 is in Hamilton, Ontario in October of 2008 ( http://access2008.mcmaster.ca) and oh boy are we excited. Do you have an idea for Access's Hackfest? Please send it to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Thanks much! jf -- http://libgrunt.blogspot.com --

[CODE4LIB] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread Tim Spalding
After releasing all our series, award prizes and such, we've now released all our covers. See the blog: http://www.librarything.com/blog/2008/08/million-free-covers-from-librarything.php I really hope this—or more probably what comes of this—ends the selling of covers to libraries. Data companies

Re: [CODE4LIB] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
This is awesome Tim, thanks very much. My software these days investigates several sources of covers, and then decides based on availabilty which to use. If I wanted to check LT for a cover before deciding to display it, would I just access that kind of URL and see if I get a 404 or not? Jon

Re: [CODE4LIB] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Hmm, but wait, one more question: "Use does not involve or promote a LibraryThing competitor." Can you clarify that a bit for us? Does that mean I can't have a link on a page to a business you consider a competitor? (Does that include Amazon?). Can you be a bit more specific about what busin

[CODE4LIB] Position Opening - U.S.A. - Bryn Mawr, PA - Tri-College Library Web Developer

2008-08-07 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
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Re: [CODE4LIB] [Web4lib] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread Lars Aronsson
Tim Spalding wrote: > I really hope this—or more probably what comes of this—ends the > selling of covers to libraries. Probably not, with all the restrictions you attached. Still, this is a most interesting experiment. Commercial sellers supposedly have a legal backing from contracts with pu

Re: [CODE4LIB] [Web4lib] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Both the law and the real world situation is unclear. Clearly, publishers own the intellectual property of a cover graphic. Could using thumbnail images of lots of covers in aggregate be considered fair use? Maybe, the law is not clear (there is some case law to suggest it could be, but it's

[CODE4LIB] Position Opening - Columbus, OH - Web Developer

2008-08-07 Thread Matt Polcyn
OHIONET, a not-for-profit library membership organization in Ohio, seeks a web developer with 3 to 5 years of experience to develop, maintain and support various aspects of OHIONET's public and internal web sites and to coordinate web hosting and design and development services provided to our memb

Re: [CODE4LIB] [Web4lib] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread Karen Coyle
contributory infringement: http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/question.cgi?QuestionID=268 Jonathan Rochkind wrote: Both the law and the real world situation is unclear. Clearly, publishers own the intellectual property of a cover graphic. Could using thumbnail images of lots of covers in

Re: [CODE4LIB] [Web4lib] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread Tim Spalding
First, IANAL, obviously. > Clearly, publishers own the intellectual property of a cover graphic. Could > using thumbnail images of lots of covers in aggregate be considered fair > use? Maybe, the law is not clear (there is some case law to suggest it > could be, but it's hardly settled). Publish

Re: [CODE4LIB] [Web4lib] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I am actually pretty certain that Amazon _has_ licensed their covers, and particularly from Syndetics. Where Syndetics gets their covers remains a mystery to me, one I am very curious about. Jonathan Tim Spalding wrote: First, IANAL, obviously. Clearly, publishers own the intellectual

Re: [CODE4LIB] [Web4lib] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread Thomas Dowling
On 08/07/2008 04:04 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: I am actually pretty certain that Amazon _has_ licensed their covers, and particularly from Syndetics. Contrariwise, Wikipedia includes book and DVD covers and movie posters, with a pretty verbose explanation of why they think they're allowed

Re: [CODE4LIB] [Web4lib] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread David Pattern
> Publishers make their covers available to them and to others because > they desperately want their covers out there. You can get covers from > publishers with amazing ease. I do not suspect Amazon or Syndetics > have licensed the covers in any way. Having worked for a number of years for a child

Re: [CODE4LIB] [Web4lib] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread Edward M. Corrado
I think the lawsuit you are talking about is the image linking suit, Perfect 10 v. Google. Information on this lawsuit can be found at: http://www.eff.org/cases/perfect-10-v-google I haven't read the decision, but the EFF says "While it leaves some questions open, the bottom line is that the Court

Re: [CODE4LIB] [Web4lib] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Yeah, the law is pretty unclear. I don't think LT or Wikipedia are taking an unreasonable risk. Odds are, the publishers aren't going to complain. If they do, and you are willing to go to court, it's a toss up as to whether you'd win or not. Jonathan Thomas Dowling wrote: On 08/07/2008 04:0

Re: [CODE4LIB] [Web4lib] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
David Pattern wrote: On the subject of copyright, wasn't there a recent case brought against Google's Image Search where the judge ruled that thumbnails do not violate the copyright of the original image? Yes, but the facts in that case weren't quite the same as the facts in the hypothetic

Re: [CODE4LIB] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread Nate Vack
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Tim Spalding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After releasing all our series, award prizes and such, we've now > released all our covers. See the blog: > > http://www.librarything.com/blog/2008/08/million-free-covers-from-librarything.php > > I really hope this—or more

Re: [CODE4LIB] [Web4lib] A million free covers, from LibraryThing

2008-08-07 Thread Tim Spalding
The thumbnail decision is quite a different one. Photographers sell photographs, and were upset that Google was making small versions available. But publishers do not sell covers; they sell books. The thumbnail rationale, though apparently legally sufficient, is complex. Showing a cover of a book