Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-06 Thread Andrew Hankinson
Long-time lurker, but thought I'd chime in and say I would be  
interested in such a scholarship, if it were available. I have a bit  
of video editing experience, and am interested in coming to the  
conference in RI.



On 3 Nov 2008, at 19:57, K.G. Schneider wrote:


+1 for the idea of funding the audio/video (and I always need more
travel mugs, but I'd rather have the a/v :> )

Karen

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:24:10 -0500, "Jonathan Rochkind"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
Aha, funding the audio and video is a great idea. Meets Code4Lib  
needs,

and also meets sponsor advertising needs, because all the videos and
audio could go up with a "capture of this content was sponsored by
Insert Vendor Here" link. I think Bill's idea is great.  Someone  
would

still need to be found to volunteer to recruit and supervise this
hypothetical student.

Jonathan

William Denton wrote:

On 3 November 2008, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:


Yeah, I'd rather the money were spent for a scholarship than for a
travel mug. I don't need any more travel mugs. Thanks for making  
this

point, Erik.


It'd be nice if there was a box of them for people that need one,  
but

I already have all the travel mugs I want.

Funding someone's attendance--or paying a student to get the audio  
and

video online quickly--would be great.

Bill


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Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-04 Thread Richard Wallis

And there was me thinking I had the monopoly on great ideas!

Whilst still confessing a yearning for a code4lib emblazoned hot  
beverage container, I do concede that the audio/video support idea  
does have merits.


Would someone like to contact me directly to explore this option  
further.


~Richard

On 4 Nov 2008, at 15:57, Doran, Michael D wrote:


John Fereira wrote:
A Talis sponsorship of audio/video support:  Not only benefits
attendees but benefits those that can't attend the conference
and can watch the audio/video captures after the conference.

Seems to me that #3 is a clear winner.


That does seem like a win-win option.  Especially given Kevin  
Clarke's suggestion that a Talis acknowledgement could be included  
in the videos.


-- Michael

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-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Fereira
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:28 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

Jonathan Rochkind wrote:

Aha, funding the audio and video is a great idea. Meets Code4Lib
needs, and also meets sponsor advertising needs, because all the
videos and audio could go up with a "capture of this content was
sponsored by Insert Vendor Here" link. I think Bill's idea

is great.

Someone would still need to be found to volunteer to recruit and
supervise this hypothetical student.

A Talis sponsored mug:  Benefits everyone that attends the
conference a
little

A Talis sponsored scholarship:  Benefits  only one person and if it's
like some of the previous scholarship excludes some from
being eligible
to receive it.

A Talis sponsorship of audio/video support:  Not only
benefits attendees
but benefits those that can't attend the conference and can watch the
audio/video captures after the conference.

Seems to me that #3 is a clear winner.



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Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-04 Thread Doran, Michael D
> John Fereira wrote:
> A Talis sponsorship of audio/video support:  Not only benefits
> attendees but benefits those that can't attend the conference
> and can watch the audio/video captures after the conference.
> 
> Seems to me that #3 is a clear winner.

That does seem like a win-win option.  Especially given Kevin Clarke's 
suggestion that a Talis acknowledgement could be included in the videos. 

-- Michael

# Michael Doran, Systems Librarian
# University of Texas at Arlington
# 817-272-5326 office
# 817-688-1926 mobile
# [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/
  

> -Original Message-
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of John Fereira
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:28 PM
> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?
> 
> Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
> > Aha, funding the audio and video is a great idea. Meets Code4Lib 
> > needs, and also meets sponsor advertising needs, because all the 
> > videos and audio could go up with a "capture of this content was 
> > sponsored by Insert Vendor Here" link. I think Bill's idea 
> is great.  
> > Someone would still need to be found to volunteer to recruit and 
> > supervise this hypothetical student. 
> A Talis sponsored mug:  Benefits everyone that attends the 
> conference a 
> little
> 
> A Talis sponsored scholarship:  Benefits  only one person and if it's 
> like some of the previous scholarship excludes some from 
> being eligible 
> to receive it.
> 
> A Talis sponsorship of audio/video support:  Not only 
> benefits attendees 
> but benefits those that can't attend the conference and can watch the 
> audio/video captures after the conference.
> 
> Seems to me that #3 is a clear winner.
> 


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-04 Thread John Fereira

Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
Aha, funding the audio and video is a great idea. Meets Code4Lib 
needs, and also meets sponsor advertising needs, because all the 
videos and audio could go up with a "capture of this content was 
sponsored by Insert Vendor Here" link. I think Bill's idea is great.  
Someone would still need to be found to volunteer to recruit and 
supervise this hypothetical student. 
A Talis sponsored mug:  Benefits everyone that attends the conference a 
little


A Talis sponsored scholarship:  Benefits  only one person and if it's 
like some of the previous scholarship excludes some from being eligible 
to receive it.


A Talis sponsorship of audio/video support:  Not only benefits attendees 
but benefits those that can't attend the conference and can watch the 
audio/video captures after the conference.


Seems to me that #3 is a clear winner.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-03 Thread K.G. Schneider
+1 for the idea of funding the audio/video (and I always need more
travel mugs, but I'd rather have the a/v :> )

Karen

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:24:10 -0500, "Jonathan Rochkind"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Aha, funding the audio and video is a great idea. Meets Code4Lib needs, 
> and also meets sponsor advertising needs, because all the videos and 
> audio could go up with a "capture of this content was sponsored by 
> Insert Vendor Here" link. I think Bill's idea is great.  Someone would 
> still need to be found to volunteer to recruit and supervise this 
> hypothetical student.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> William Denton wrote:
> > On 3 November 2008, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah, I'd rather the money were spent for a scholarship than for a 
> >> travel mug. I don't need any more travel mugs. Thanks for making this 
> >> point, Erik.
> >
> > It'd be nice if there was a box of them for people that need one, but 
> > I already have all the travel mugs I want.
> >
> > Funding someone's attendance--or paying a student to get the audio and 
> > video online quickly--would be great.
> >
> > Bill
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan Rochkind
> Digital Services Software Engineer
> The Sheridan Libraries
> Johns Hopkins University
> 410.516.8886 
> rochkind (at) jhu.edu


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-03 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Aha, funding the audio and video is a great idea. Meets Code4Lib needs, 
and also meets sponsor advertising needs, because all the videos and 
audio could go up with a "capture of this content was sponsored by 
Insert Vendor Here" link. I think Bill's idea is great.  Someone would 
still need to be found to volunteer to recruit and supervise this 
hypothetical student.


Jonathan

William Denton wrote:

On 3 November 2008, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:

Yeah, I'd rather the money were spent for a scholarship than for a 
travel mug. I don't need any more travel mugs. Thanks for making this 
point, Erik.


It'd be nice if there was a box of them for people that need one, but 
I already have all the travel mugs I want.


Funding someone's attendance--or paying a student to get the audio and 
video online quickly--would be great.


Bill


--
Jonathan Rochkind
Digital Services Software Engineer
The Sheridan Libraries
Johns Hopkins University
410.516.8886 
rochkind (at) jhu.edu


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-03 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:07 PM, William Denton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Funding someone's attendance--or paying a student to get the audio and video
> online quickly--would be great.

And there is an advertising opportunity for Talis in the latter.
Acknowledgement could be given that Talis funded the timely conversion
of the video (would probably hit more eyeballs than a mug too).

Kevin


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are two kinds of people and those who know better.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-03 Thread William Denton

On 3 November 2008, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:

Yeah, I'd rather the money were spent for a scholarship than for a 
travel mug. I don't need any more travel mugs. Thanks for making this 
point, Erik.


It'd be nice if there was a box of them for people that need one, but I 
already have all the travel mugs I want.


Funding someone's attendance--or paying a student to get the audio and 
video online quickly--would be great.


Bill
--
William Denton, Toronto : www.miskatonic.org www.frbr.org www.openfrbr.org


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-03 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Yeah, I'd rather the money were spent for a scholarship than for a 
travel mug. I don't need any more travel mugs. Thanks for making this 
point, Erik.


On the other hand, Talis may consider it money better spent to put a mug 
with their logo into it into each participants hands, than a 
scholarship. Certainly up to them how they spend their sponsorship 
money, but since they're asking us...


Jonathan

Erik Hetzner wrote:

At Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:31:18 -0500,
jean rainwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

I think the mugs are a great idea -- and thank you for your
sponsorship!!!



For myself, all the logoified travel mugs, t-shirts, usb keys, etc. I
get clutter up my home until I finally get around to getting rid of
them. Why not use the upwards of $700 that (my estimate) this will
cost to sponsor another scholarship, or just to lower the cost of
attendance?

best, Erik Hetzner
  



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Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-03 Thread Erik Hetzner
At Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:31:18 -0500,
jean rainwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think the mugs are a great idea -- and thank you for your
> sponsorship!!!

For myself, all the logoified travel mugs, t-shirts, usb keys, etc. I
get clutter up my home until I finally get around to getting rid of
them. Why not use the upwards of $700 that (my estimate) this will
cost to sponsor another scholarship, or just to lower the cost of
attendance?

best, Erik Hetzner
;; Erik Hetzner, California Digital Library
;; gnupg key id: 1024D/01DB07E3


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Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-03 Thread jean rainwater
I think the mugs are a great idea -- and thank you for your sponsorship!!!
Jean

Jean Rainwater
Brown University Library

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Richard Wallis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We at Talis will be, as previously, sponsoring Code4lib next year - we are
> just finalising the details with our bean counters at the moment.
>
> In addition to that I would like to make a suggestion as to maybe adding to
> the memories of the event beyond the ritual wearing of the t-shirt upon
> returning to our home establishments.
>
> The consumption of hot beverages I suspect is an almost universal trait of
> the code4liber as we try to get the latest bit of perl, python, ruby, html,
> or javascript to behave as we intended it.  Wouldn't it be nice in those
> occasional dark and testing times to have a warm and comforting physical
> reminder that we are part of a global community of similar folks, focused on
> and passionate about technology & libraries.
>
> So...
>
> How about a Code4lib mug or similar beverage container.  Subject to the
> featuring of a simple Talis logo, we would be prepared to explore the
> possibility of funding the production of a Code4lib 2009 mug for every
> attendee, which could feature graphics such as the winning t-shirt design a
> Code4lib message, or logo if we have one in time.
>
> Just a suggestion - what do folks think?
>
> Richard Wallis, Talis.
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs

2008-11-03 Thread Roy Zimmer
How about making the mug available for sale to the rest of us
listmembers just because we're on the list?
 
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Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-03 Thread K.G. Schneider
A "green" travel mug, announced in advance, would be nice and would make
a great "green" statement. 

By travel mug, I assume we mean with a lid and nonbreakable. (The
nonbreakable part is as much for Talis as for C4L... way back in another
job I once inherited boxes and boxes of ceramic mugs, which were fragile
as well as expensive to ship. Boo.)

 Some SWAG companies are even selling SWAG made from recycled materials.
 I'm a big believer in greening the SWAG... and though I love the
 teeshirts, mine is only suitable for me as a nighty. 

Karen G. Schneider


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-03 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
Wow really interesting question and one that makes sense given the
move towards developing a code4lib brand.

my opinion on the Talis offer: +1 on the basis of free_swag++

It raises the question though: Does code4lib want to develop a brand
and determine who and who can't have permission to use it?  We need a
committee to deal with that don't we?  ;-)

My opinion on the larger question would be no real brand in the sense
of trademarking anything... let anyone who wants to use "code4lib" use
it in any way they want (even to disparage the group or create false
associations (Hitler/Code4Lib 2012)).  People who want to get a piece
of swag with the cobranding will and those who don't won't.  I'm still
of the mind that there really isn't a code4lib entity that needs to
hire a PR firm to do reputation management.

Kevin (self-proclaimed king of code4lib navel gazing)



On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Richard Wallis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We at Talis will be, as previously, sponsoring Code4lib next year - we are
> just finalising the details with our bean counters at the moment.
>
> In addition to that I would like to make a suggestion as to maybe adding to
> the memories of the event beyond the ritual wearing of the t-shirt upon
> returning to our home establishments.
>
> The consumption of hot beverages I suspect is an almost universal trait of
> the code4liber as we try to get the latest bit of perl, python, ruby, html,
> or javascript to behave as we intended it.  Wouldn't it be nice in those
> occasional dark and testing times to have a warm and comforting physical
> reminder that we are part of a global community of similar folks, focused on
> and passionate about technology & libraries.
>
> So...
>
> How about a Code4lib mug or similar beverage container.  Subject to the
> featuring of a simple Talis logo, we would be prepared to explore the
> possibility of funding the production of a Code4lib 2009 mug for every
> attendee, which could feature graphics such as the winning t-shirt design a
> Code4lib message, or logo if we have one in time.
>
> Just a suggestion - what do folks think?
>
> Richard Wallis, Talis.
>



-- 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who believe there
are two kinds of people and those who know better.


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-03 Thread David Fiander
Giving out a travel mug at the conference, especially if the attendees
were informed of this at registration time (or at least before they
packed) would be a fantastic idea.

- David

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Edward M. Corrado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like the idea. If giving out at the beginning of the conference, it could
> also make the conference more "green." Of course, in that case it would
> probably need to be a travel mug instead of a regular mug.
>
> Edward
>
>
> Richard Wallis wrote:
>>
>> We at Talis will be, as previously, sponsoring Code4lib next year - we are
>> just finalising the details with our bean counters at the moment.
>>
>> In addition to that I would like to make a suggestion as to maybe adding
>> to the memories of the event beyond the ritual wearing of the t-shirt upon
>> returning to our home establishments.
>>
>> The consumption of hot beverages I suspect is an almost universal trait of
>> the code4liber as we try to get the latest bit of perl, python, ruby, html,
>> or javascript to behave as we intended it.  Wouldn't it be nice in those
>> occasional dark and testing times to have a warm and comforting physical
>> reminder that we are part of a global community of similar folks, focused on
>> and passionate about technology & libraries.
>>
>> So...
>>
>> How about a Code4lib mug or similar beverage container.  Subject to the
>> featuring of a simple Talis logo, we would be prepared to explore the
>> possibility of funding the production of a Code4lib 2009 mug for every
>> attendee, which could feature graphics such as the winning t-shirt design a
>> Code4lib message, or logo if we have one in time.
>>
>> Just a suggestion - what do folks think?
>>
>> Richard Wallis, Talis.
>


Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4lib mugs?

2008-11-03 Thread Edward M. Corrado
I like the idea. If giving out at the beginning of the conference, it 
could also make the conference more "green." Of course, in that case it 
would probably need to be a travel mug instead of a regular mug.


Edward


Richard Wallis wrote:
We at Talis will be, as previously, sponsoring Code4lib next year - we 
are just finalising the details with our bean counters at the moment.


In addition to that I would like to make a suggestion as to maybe 
adding to the memories of the event beyond the ritual wearing of the 
t-shirt upon returning to our home establishments.


The consumption of hot beverages I suspect is an almost universal 
trait of the code4liber as we try to get the latest bit of perl, 
python, ruby, html, or javascript to behave as we intended it.  
Wouldn't it be nice in those occasional dark and testing times to have 
a warm and comforting physical reminder that we are part of a global 
community of similar folks, focused on and passionate about technology 
& libraries.


So...

How about a Code4lib mug or similar beverage container.  Subject to 
the featuring of a simple Talis logo, we would be prepared to explore 
the possibility of funding the production of a Code4lib 2009 mug for 
every attendee, which could feature graphics such as the winning 
t-shirt design a Code4lib message, or logo if we have one in time.


Just a suggestion - what do folks think?

Richard Wallis, Talis.