Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals
I'd like a basic session as well. Something for people like me that hear Solr is great, but aren't even sure exactly what it is. Also, is there a conference price, or is it just the hotel room? I can't find anything on the website price wise other than $119/night for the hotel. Thank you, David Faler IT Quality Control and Testing The Library Corporation - Declan Fleming dflem...@ucsd.edu wrote: Hi - I understand that getting a package up and running can be fairly quick, but going over simple (then complex) examples really helps me fully understand what's happening. Remember those perl by Example books? I loved that approach to showing concretely what happens every step of the way. It probably seems dead simple once you've climbed the learning curve, I just haven't had the time committed to do that yet, especially in a space with people who could help me. Yes, it IS all about me. ;) D -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Gabriel Farrell Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:11 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:47:42PM +, Jodi Schneider wrote: If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the morning. Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running. Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session. Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a conference breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced session! The preconfs should be as inclusive as possible, but I'm wondering if the Solr session might be more beneficial if we dive into the particulars right off the bat in the morning. There are only a few steps to get Solr up and running -- it's in the configuration for our custom needs that the advice of a certain Mr. Hatcher can really be helpful. You're right, though, that the NGC thing sounds more like a BOF session. I'd support that in order to attend a full preconf day of Solr. Gabriel
Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals
David, There is a registration fee for the conference, but it appears to have fallen out of the template this year. It's traditionally hovered around $120. -Mike On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 08:13, David A. Faler dfa...@tlcdelivers.com wrote: I'd like a basic session as well. Something for people like me that hear Solr is great, but aren't even sure exactly what it is. Also, is there a conference price, or is it just the hotel room? I can't find anything on the website price wise other than $119/night for the hotel. Thank you, David Faler IT Quality Control and Testing The Library Corporation - Declan Fleming dflem...@ucsd.edu wrote: Hi - I understand that getting a package up and running can be fairly quick, but going over simple (then complex) examples really helps me fully understand what's happening. Remember those perl by Example books? I loved that approach to showing concretely what happens every step of the way. It probably seems dead simple once you've climbed the learning curve, I just haven't had the time committed to do that yet, especially in a space with people who could help me. Yes, it IS all about me. ;) D -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Gabriel Farrell Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:11 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:47:42PM +, Jodi Schneider wrote: If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the morning. Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running. Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session. Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a conference breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced session! The preconfs should be as inclusive as possible, but I'm wondering if the Solr session might be more beneficial if we dive into the particulars right off the bat in the morning. There are only a few steps to get Solr up and running -- it's in the configuration for our custom needs that the advice of a certain Mr. Hatcher can really be helpful. You're right, though, that the NGC thing sounds more like a BOF session. I'd support that in order to attend a full preconf day of Solr. Gabriel
Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals
Heh, Declan can't even make Declan do pushups... ;) D -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Bess Sadler Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:25 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals Dear David and Declan, It sounds like you're both looking for Solr White Belt which I am planning to teach. Can't wait to see you there! So, if we're going with this karate theme, does that mean I can make Declan do pushups when he acts out? See http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/2010_Preconference_Proposals for the current pre-conf descriptions. Bess On 17-Nov-09, at 8:13 AM, David A. Faler wrote: I'd like a basic session as well. Something for people like me that hear Solr is great, but aren't even sure exactly what it is. Also, is there a conference price, or is it just the hotel room? I can't find anything on the website price wise other than $119/night for the hotel. Thank you, David Faler IT Quality Control and Testing The Library Corporation - Declan Fleming dflem...@ucsd.edu wrote: Hi - I understand that getting a package up and running can be fairly quick, but going over simple (then complex) examples really helps me fully understand what's happening. Remember those perl by Example books? I loved that approach to showing concretely what happens every step of the way. It probably seems dead simple once you've climbed the learning curve, I just haven't had the time committed to do that yet, especially in a space with people who could help me. Yes, it IS all about me. ;) D -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Gabriel Farrell Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:11 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:47:42PM +, Jodi Schneider wrote: If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the morning. Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running. Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session. Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a conference breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced session!
Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals - solr
I can't make it to c4l this year :( But knowing that the preconferences are really very valuable, if there is a way that this information could be recorded and placed online like the main presentations that would be amazing! Mike Beccaria Systems Librarian Head of Digital Initiatives Paul Smith's College 518.327.6376 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Bess Sadler Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:26 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals - solr Hey, how about this? I've been discussing this off list with Erik and Naomi and this is what we came up with (I also added it to the wiki): This is a proposal for several pre-conference sessions that would fit together nicely for people interested in implementing a next-gen catalog system. 1. Morning session - solr white belt Instructor: Bess Sadler (anyone else want to join me?) The journey of solr mastery begins with installation. We will then proceed to data types, indexing, querying, and inner harmony. You will leave this session with enough information to start running a solr service with your own data. 2. Morning session - solr black belt Instructors: Erik Hatcher (and Naomi Dushay? she has offered to help, if that's of interest) Amaze your friends with your ability to combine boolean and weighted searching. Confound your enemies with your mastery of the secrets of dismax. Leave slow queries in the dust as you performance tune solr within an inch of its life. [We should probably add more specific advanced topics here... suggestions welcome] 3. Afternoon session - Blacklight Instructors: Naomi Dushay, Jessie Keck, and Bess Sadler Apply your solr skills to running Blacklight as a front end for your library catalog, institutional repository, or anything you can index into solr. We'll cover installation, source control with git, local modifications, test driving development, and writing object-specific behaviors. You'll leave this workshop ready to revolutionize discovery at your library. Solr white belts or black belts are welcome. And then anyone else who had a topic that built on solr (e.g., vufind?) could add it in the afternoon. Obviously I'm biased, but I really do think the topic of implementing a next gen catalog is meaty enough for a half day and I know people are asking me about it and eager to attend such a thing. What do you think, folks? Bess On 12-Nov-09, at 4:10 PM, Gabriel Farrell wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:47:42PM +, Jodi Schneider wrote: If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the morning. Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running. Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session. Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a conference breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced session! The preconfs should be as inclusive as possible, but I'm wondering if the Solr session might be more beneficial if we dive into the particulars right off the bat in the morning. There are only a few steps to get Solr up and running -- it's in the configuration for our custom needs that the advice of a certain Mr. Hatcher can really be helpful. You're right, though, that the NGC thing sounds more like a BOF session. I'd support that in order to attend a full preconf day of Solr. Gabriel Elizabeth (Bess) Sadler Chief Architect for the Online Library Environment Box 400129 Alderman Library University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22904 b...@virginia.edu (434) 243-2305
Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals
Hi - I'd also like a basic, get it running from scratch primer half day. Something with meaty examples that hit on what solr is best at. I get solr in a strategic sense, but I'd love to have seen it actually work experientially. D -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Jodi Schneider Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:48 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the morning. Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running. Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session. Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a conference breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced session! -Jodi On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Kevin S. Clarke kscla...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Erik Hatcher erikhatc...@mac.com wrote: I could be game for a half day session. It could be either an introductory Solr class, get up and running with Solr (+ Blacklight, of course). Or maybe a more advanced session on topics like leveraging dismax, Solr performance and scalability tuning, and so on, or maybe a freer form Solr hackathon session where I'd be there to help with hurdles or answer questions. Thoughts? Suggestions? I think that'd be great. I'd be more interested in a more advanced session personally (dismax, tuning, etc.) Thanks! Kevin
Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals
Hi - I understand that getting a package up and running can be fairly quick, but going over simple (then complex) examples really helps me fully understand what's happening. Remember those perl by Example books? I loved that approach to showing concretely what happens every step of the way. It probably seems dead simple once you've climbed the learning curve, I just haven't had the time committed to do that yet, especially in a space with people who could help me. Yes, it IS all about me. ;) D -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Gabriel Farrell Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:11 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:47:42PM +, Jodi Schneider wrote: If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the morning. Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running. Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session. Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a conference breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced session! The preconfs should be as inclusive as possible, but I'm wondering if the Solr session might be more beneficial if we dive into the particulars right off the bat in the morning. There are only a few steps to get Solr up and running -- it's in the configuration for our custom needs that the advice of a certain Mr. Hatcher can really be helpful. You're right, though, that the NGC thing sounds more like a BOF session. I'd support that in order to attend a full preconf day of Solr. Gabriel
Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals - solr
On 13-Nov-09, at 10:29 AM, Cary Gordon wrote: I might be able to help with the white belt. Do I get to wear one of those padded suits? It should probably be mandatory. Aren't you glad they're modeling the pre-conf after karate, and not sumo wresting?
Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals - solr
Hey, how about this? I've been discussing this off list with Erik and Naomi and this is what we came up with (I also added it to the wiki): This is a proposal for several pre-conference sessions that would fit together nicely for people interested in implementing a next-gen catalog system. 1. Morning session - solr white belt Instructor: Bess Sadler (anyone else want to join me?) The journey of solr mastery begins with installation. We will then proceed to data types, indexing, querying, and inner harmony. You will leave this session with enough information to start running a solr service with your own data. 2. Morning session - solr black belt Instructors: Erik Hatcher (and Naomi Dushay? she has offered to help, if that's of interest) Amaze your friends with your ability to combine boolean and weighted searching. Confound your enemies with your mastery of the secrets of dismax. Leave slow queries in the dust as you performance tune solr within an inch of its life. [We should probably add more specific advanced topics here... suggestions welcome] 3. Afternoon session - Blacklight Instructors: Naomi Dushay, Jessie Keck, and Bess Sadler Apply your solr skills to running Blacklight as a front end for your library catalog, institutional repository, or anything you can index into solr. We'll cover installation, source control with git, local modifications, test driving development, and writing object-specific behaviors. You'll leave this workshop ready to revolutionize discovery at your library. Solr white belts or black belts are welcome. And then anyone else who had a topic that built on solr (e.g., vufind?) could add it in the afternoon. Obviously I'm biased, but I really do think the topic of implementing a next gen catalog is meaty enough for a half day and I know people are asking me about it and eager to attend such a thing. What do you think, folks? Bess On 12-Nov-09, at 4:10 PM, Gabriel Farrell wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:47:42PM +, Jodi Schneider wrote: If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the morning. Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running. Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session. Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a conference breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced session! The preconfs should be as inclusive as possible, but I'm wondering if the Solr session might be more beneficial if we dive into the particulars right off the bat in the morning. There are only a few steps to get Solr up and running -- it's in the configuration for our custom needs that the advice of a certain Mr. Hatcher can really be helpful. You're right, though, that the NGC thing sounds more like a BOF session. I'd support that in order to attend a full preconf day of Solr. Gabriel Elizabeth (Bess) Sadler Chief Architect for the Online Library Environment Box 400129 Alderman Library University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22904 b...@virginia.edu (434) 243-2305 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals - solr
On 13 Nov 09, at 11:25 AM, Bess Sadler wrote: 1. Morning session - solr white belt [delightful descriptions snipped] 2. Morning session - solr black belt 3. Afternoon session - Blacklight Is there any chance that the black belt session needs to be/should be a two parter and run through the afternoon as well? ... or repeat for those who have just acquired their white belts but are headed in different directions? Walter who is happy to get all the direction on solr he can find
Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals - solr
This looks like a great set of pre-conferences - especially since they are built around Solr. Robert On 11/13/09 11:25 AM, Bess Sadler eo...@virginia.edu wrote: Hey, how about this? I've been discussing this off list with Erik and Naomi and this is what we came up with (I also added it to the wiki): This is a proposal for several pre-conference sessions that would fit together nicely for people interested in implementing a next-gen catalog system. 1. Morning session - solr white belt Instructor: Bess Sadler (anyone else want to join me?) The journey of solr mastery begins with installation. We will then proceed to data types, indexing, querying, and inner harmony. You will leave this session with enough information to start running a solr service with your own data. 2. Morning session - solr black belt Instructors: Erik Hatcher (and Naomi Dushay? she has offered to help, if that's of interest) Amaze your friends with your ability to combine boolean and weighted searching. Confound your enemies with your mastery of the secrets of dismax. Leave slow queries in the dust as you performance tune solr within an inch of its life. [We should probably add more specific advanced topics here... suggestions welcome] 3. Afternoon session - Blacklight Instructors: Naomi Dushay, Jessie Keck, and Bess Sadler Apply your solr skills to running Blacklight as a front end for your library catalog, institutional repository, or anything you can index into solr. We'll cover installation, source control with git, local modifications, test driving development, and writing object-specific behaviors. You'll leave this workshop ready to revolutionize discovery at your library. Solr white belts or black belts are welcome. And then anyone else who had a topic that built on solr (e.g., vufind?) could add it in the afternoon. Obviously I'm biased, but I really do think the topic of implementing a next gen catalog is meaty enough for a half day and I know people are asking me about it and eager to attend such a thing. What do you think, folks? Bess On 12-Nov-09, at 4:10 PM, Gabriel Farrell wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:47:42PM +, Jodi Schneider wrote: If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the morning. Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running. Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session. Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a conference breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced session! The preconfs should be as inclusive as possible, but I'm wondering if the Solr session might be more beneficial if we dive into the particulars right off the bat in the morning. There are only a few steps to get Solr up and running -- it's in the configuration for our custom needs that the advice of a certain Mr. Hatcher can really be helpful. You're right, though, that the NGC thing sounds more like a BOF session. I'd support that in order to attend a full preconf day of Solr. Gabriel Elizabeth (Bess) Sadler Chief Architect for the Online Library Environment Box 400129 Alderman Library University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22904 b...@virginia.edu (434) 243-2305 ** Robert H. McDonald Associate Dean for Library Technologies Associate Director, Data to Insight Center-Pervasive Technology Institute Frye Leadership Institute Fellow 2009 Indiana University Herman B Wells Library 234 1320 East 10th Street Bloomington, IN 47405 Phone: 812-856-4834 Email: rob...@indiana.edu Skype/GTalk: rhmcdonald AIM/MSN: rhmcdonald1
Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals - solr
+1, Bess! I'm especially psyched for the kata demonstrations and sparring matches we'll have at the end of the session :) I'll tinker with the advanced session description a bit when I can, but let's run with that for the time being. I'm happy to have Noami join me however she likes. Erik On Nov 13, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Bess Sadler wrote: Hey, how about this? I've been discussing this off list with Erik and Naomi and this is what we came up with (I also added it to the wiki): This is a proposal for several pre-conference sessions that would fit together nicely for people interested in implementing a next-gen catalog system. 1. Morning session - solr white belt Instructor: Bess Sadler (anyone else want to join me?) The journey of solr mastery begins with installation. We will then proceed to data types, indexing, querying, and inner harmony. You will leave this session with enough information to start running a solr service with your own data. 2. Morning session - solr black belt Instructors: Erik Hatcher (and Naomi Dushay? she has offered to help, if that's of interest) Amaze your friends with your ability to combine boolean and weighted searching. Confound your enemies with your mastery of the secrets of dismax. Leave slow queries in the dust as you performance tune solr within an inch of its life. [We should probably add more specific advanced topics here... suggestions welcome] 3. Afternoon session - Blacklight Instructors: Naomi Dushay, Jessie Keck, and Bess Sadler Apply your solr skills to running Blacklight as a front end for your library catalog, institutional repository, or anything you can index into solr. We'll cover installation, source control with git, local modifications, test driving development, and writing object-specific behaviors. You'll leave this workshop ready to revolutionize discovery at your library. Solr white belts or black belts are welcome. And then anyone else who had a topic that built on solr (e.g., vufind?) could add it in the afternoon. Obviously I'm biased, but I really do think the topic of implementing a next gen catalog is meaty enough for a half day and I know people are asking me about it and eager to attend such a thing. What do you think, folks? Bess On 12-Nov-09, at 4:10 PM, Gabriel Farrell wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:47:42PM +, Jodi Schneider wrote: If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the morning. Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running. Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session. Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a conference breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced session! The preconfs should be as inclusive as possible, but I'm wondering if the Solr session might be more beneficial if we dive into the particulars right off the bat in the morning. There are only a few steps to get Solr up and running -- it's in the configuration for our custom needs that the advice of a certain Mr. Hatcher can really be helpful. You're right, though, that the NGC thing sounds more like a BOF session. I'd support that in order to attend a full preconf day of Solr. Gabriel Elizabeth (Bess) Sadler Chief Architect for the Online Library Environment Box 400129 Alderman Library University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22904 b...@virginia.edu (434) 243-2305
Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals - solr
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:42:53AM -0500, Walter Lewis wrote: On 13 Nov 09, at 11:25 AM, Bess Sadler wrote: 1. Morning session - solr white belt [delightful descriptions snipped] 2. Morning session - solr black belt 3. Afternoon session - Blacklight Is there any chance that the black belt session needs to be/should be a two parter and run through the afternoon as well? ... or repeat for those who have just acquired their white belts but are headed in different directions? Agreed on morning and afternoon black belt sessions for all those who desire dark Solr. Gabriel
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+1 I'd never leave the dojo. Agreed on morning and afternoon black belt sessions for all those who desire dark Solr. -- Jason Stirnaman On 11/13/2009 at 11:01 AM, in message 20091113170101.gd4...@manheim.library.drexel.edu, Gabriel Farrell g...@rc98.net wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:42:53AM -0500, Walter Lewis wrote: On 13 Nov 09, at 11:25 AM, Bess Sadler wrote: 1. Morning session - solr white belt [delightful descriptions snipped] 2. Morning session - solr black belt 3. Afternoon session - Blacklight Is there any chance that the black belt session needs to be/should be a two parter and run through the afternoon as well? ... or repeat for those who have just acquired their white belts but are headed in different directions? Agreed on morning and afternoon black belt sessions for all those who desire dark Solr. Gabriel
Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals - solr
On Nov 13, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Walter Lewis wrote: On 13 Nov 09, at 11:25 AM, Bess Sadler wrote: 1. Morning session - solr white belt [delightful descriptions snipped] 2. Morning session - solr black belt 3. Afternoon session - Blacklight Is there any chance that the black belt session needs to be/should be a two parter and run through the afternoon as well? ... or repeat for those who have just acquired their white belts but are headed in different directions? I'd hate to miss the Blacklight session myself though! How about a compromise? In that I'll do the morning advanced Solr session as proposed and then gladly make myself available for the remainder of the conference for any folks that have specific questions/ issues with Solr. Erik
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I might be able to help with the white belt. Do I get to wear one of those padded suits? Cary On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Bess Sadler eo...@virginia.edu wrote: Hey, how about this? I've been discussing this off list with Erik and Naomi and this is what we came up with (I also added it to the wiki): This is a proposal for several pre-conference sessions that would fit together nicely for people interested in implementing a next-gen catalog system. 1. Morning session - solr white belt Instructor: Bess Sadler (anyone else want to join me?) The journey of solr mastery begins with installation. We will then proceed to data types, indexing, querying, and inner harmony. You will leave this session with enough information to start running a solr service with your own data. 2. Morning session - solr black belt Instructors: Erik Hatcher (and Naomi Dushay? she has offered to help, if that's of interest) Amaze your friends with your ability to combine boolean and weighted searching. Confound your enemies with your mastery of the secrets of dismax. Leave slow queries in the dust as you performance tune solr within an inch of its life. [We should probably add more specific advanced topics here... suggestions welcome] 3. Afternoon session - Blacklight Instructors: Naomi Dushay, Jessie Keck, and Bess Sadler Apply your solr skills to running Blacklight as a front end for your library catalog, institutional repository, or anything you can index into solr. We'll cover installation, source control with git, local modifications, test driving development, and writing object-specific behaviors. You'll leave this workshop ready to revolutionize discovery at your library. Solr white belts or black belts are welcome. And then anyone else who had a topic that built on solr (e.g., vufind?) could add it in the afternoon. Obviously I'm biased, but I really do think the topic of implementing a next gen catalog is meaty enough for a half day and I know people are asking me about it and eager to attend such a thing. What do you think, folks? Bess On 12-Nov-09, at 4:10 PM, Gabriel Farrell wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:47:42PM +, Jodi Schneider wrote: If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the morning. Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running. Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session. Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a conference breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced session! The preconfs should be as inclusive as possible, but I'm wondering if the Solr session might be more beneficial if we dive into the particulars right off the bat in the morning. There are only a few steps to get Solr up and running -- it's in the configuration for our custom needs that the advice of a certain Mr. Hatcher can really be helpful. You're right, though, that the NGC thing sounds more like a BOF session. I'd support that in order to attend a full preconf day of Solr. Gabriel Elizabeth (Bess) Sadler Chief Architect for the Online Library Environment Box 400129 Alderman Library University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22904 b...@virginia.edu (434) 243-2305 -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
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Cary, that would be great! I'll contact you off-list so we can make our lesson plan. Anyone else want to join us? Bess On 13-Nov-09, at 10:29 AM, Cary Gordon wrote: I might be able to help with the white belt. Do I get to wear one of those padded suits? Cary smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
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On Nov 13, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Erik Hatcher wrote: +1, Bess! I'm especially psyched for the kata demonstrations and sparring matches we'll have at the end of the session :) I'll tinker with the advanced session description a bit when I can, but let's run with that for the time being. I'm happy to have Noami join me however she likes. I'll be the eye candy! Erik On Nov 13, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Bess Sadler wrote: Hey, how about this? I've been discussing this off list with Erik and Naomi and this is what we came up with (I also added it to the wiki): This is a proposal for several pre-conference sessions that would fit together nicely for people interested in implementing a next- gen catalog system. 1. Morning session - solr white belt Instructor: Bess Sadler (anyone else want to join me?) The journey of solr mastery begins with installation. We will then proceed to data types, indexing, querying, and inner harmony. You will leave this session with enough information to start running a solr service with your own data. 2. Morning session - solr black belt Instructors: Erik Hatcher (and Naomi Dushay? she has offered to help, if that's of interest) Amaze your friends with your ability to combine boolean and weighted searching. Confound your enemies with your mastery of the secrets of dismax. Leave slow queries in the dust as you performance tune solr within an inch of its life. [We should probably add more specific advanced topics here... suggestions welcome] 3. Afternoon session - Blacklight Instructors: Naomi Dushay, Jessie Keck, and Bess Sadler Apply your solr skills to running Blacklight as a front end for your library catalog, institutional repository, or anything you can index into solr. We'll cover installation, source control with git, local modifications, test driving development, and writing object- specific behaviors. You'll leave this workshop ready to revolutionize discovery at your library. Solr white belts or black belts are welcome. And then anyone else who had a topic that built on solr (e.g., vufind?) could add it in the afternoon. Obviously I'm biased, but I really do think the topic of implementing a next gen catalog is meaty enough for a half day and I know people are asking me about it and eager to attend such a thing. What do you think, folks? Bess On 12-Nov-09, at 4:10 PM, Gabriel Farrell wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:47:42PM +, Jodi Schneider wrote: If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the morning. Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running. Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session. Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a conference breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced session! The preconfs should be as inclusive as possible, but I'm wondering if the Solr session might be more beneficial if we dive into the particulars right off the bat in the morning. There are only a few steps to get Solr up and running -- it's in the configuration for our custom needs that the advice of a certain Mr. Hatcher can really be helpful. You're right, though, that the NGC thing sounds more like a BOF session. I'd support that in order to attend a full preconf day of Solr. Gabriel Elizabeth (Bess) Sadler Chief Architect for the Online Library Environment Box 400129 Alderman Library University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22904 b...@virginia.edu (434) 243-2305
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On Nov 11, 2009, at 6:46 PM, Naomi Dushay wrote: What do you think about the Solr part having some specific goodies like: +1 to it all! lots on dismax magic how to do fielded searching (author/title/subject) with dismax how to do browsing (termsComponent query, then fielded query to get matching docs) how to do boolean (use lucene QP, or fake it with dismax) Or, use the new Lucid contributed extended dismax parser ;) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-1553 Erik
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 06:41:20AM -0800, Bess Sadler wrote: +1 from me on this, no surprise. :) What if we did a next gen catalog day thing? We could spend the morning on solr, which many projects have in common, in the morning, and then in the afternoon have sessions that build on top of solr (vufind, blacklight, kochief, etc.) We were going to submit a proposal for a blacklight pre-conference regardless, but it makes a lot of sense to do something more coordinated, and it particularly makes sense to ensure that as many people as possible can take advantage of Erik's presence and expertise. Great idea, Bess. Advanced Solr in the morning, including extended dismax, query weighting, and solrmarc. Then more general NGC stuff in the afternoon, such as options for pulling data in and pushing it out, how best to display various collections, etc. Gabriel
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:47:42PM +, Jodi Schneider wrote: If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the morning. Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running. Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session. Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a conference breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced session! The preconfs should be as inclusive as possible, but I'm wondering if the Solr session might be more beneficial if we dive into the particulars right off the bat in the morning. There are only a few steps to get Solr up and running -- it's in the configuration for our custom needs that the advice of a certain Mr. Hatcher can really be helpful. You're right, though, that the NGC thing sounds more like a BOF session. I'd support that in order to attend a full preconf day of Solr. Gabriel
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:02:09AM -0500, Erik Hatcher wrote: Or, use the new Lucid contributed extended dismax parser ;) https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-1553 Erik This looks sweet, Erik. Many thanks for sharing. Gabriel
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yes, tuning! - NaomI On Nov 10, 2009, at 6:43 AM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Erik Hatcher erikhatc...@mac.com wrote: I could be game for a half day session. It could be either an introductory Solr class, get up and running with Solr (+ Blacklight, of course). Or maybe a more advanced session on topics like leveraging dismax, Solr performance and scalability tuning, and so on, or maybe a freer form Solr hackathon session where I'd be there to help with hurdles or answer questions. Thoughts? Suggestions? I think that'd be great. I'd be more interested in a more advanced session personally (dismax, tuning, etc.) Thanks! Kevin
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What do you think about the Solr part having some specific goodies like: lots on dismax magic how to do fielded searching (author/title/subject) with dismax how to do browsing (termsComponent query, then fielded query to get matching docs) how to do boolean (use lucene QP, or fake it with dismax) - Naomi On Nov 10, 2009, at 5:38 AM, Erik Hatcher wrote: I'm interested presenting something Solr+library related at c4l10. I'm soliciting ideas from the community on what angle makes the most sense. At first I was thinking a regular conference talk proposal, but perhaps a preconference session would be better. I could be game for a half day session. It could be either an introductory Solr class, get up and running with Solr (+ Blacklight, of course). Or maybe a more advanced session on topics like leveraging dismax, Solr performance and scalability tuning, and so on, or maybe a freer form Solr hackathon session where I'd be there to help with hurdles or answer questions. Thoughts? Suggestions? Anything I can do to help the library world with Solr is fair game - let me know. Thanks, Erik On Nov 9, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: Hi all, It's time again to collect proposals for Code4Lib 2010 preconference sessions. We have space for six full day sessions (or 12 half day sessions (or some combination of the two)). If we get more than we can accommodate, we'll vote... but I don't think we will (take that as a challenge to propose lots of interesting preconference sessions). Like last year, attendees will pay $12.50 for a half day or $25 for the whole day. The preconference space will be in the hotel so we'll have wireless available. If you have a preconference idea, send it to this list, to me, or to the code4libcon planning list. We'll put them up on the wiki once we start receiving them. Some possible ideas? A Drupal in libraries session? LOD part two? An OCLC webservices hackathon? Send the proposals along... Thanks, Kevin
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Distributed search! On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:38 AM, Erik Hatcher erikhatc...@mac.com wrote: I'm interested presenting something Solr+library related at c4l10. I'm soliciting ideas from the community on what angle makes the most sense. At first I was thinking a regular conference talk proposal, but perhaps a preconference session would be better. I could be game for a half day session. It could be either an introductory Solr class, get up and running with Solr (+ Blacklight, of course). Or maybe a more advanced session on topics like leveraging dismax, Solr performance and scalability tuning, and so on, or maybe a freer form Solr hackathon session where I'd be there to help with hurdles or answer questions. Thoughts? Suggestions? Anything I can do to help the library world with Solr is fair game - let me know. Thanks, Erik On Nov 9, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: Hi all, It's time again to collect proposals for Code4Lib 2010 preconference sessions. We have space for six full day sessions (or 12 half day sessions (or some combination of the two)). If we get more than we can accommodate, we'll vote... but I don't think we will (take that as a challenge to propose lots of interesting preconference sessions). Like last year, attendees will pay $12.50 for a half day or $25 for the whole day. The preconference space will be in the hotel so we'll have wireless available. If you have a preconference idea, send it to this list, to me, or to the code4libcon planning list. We'll put them up on the wiki once we start receiving them. Some possible ideas? A Drupal in libraries session? LOD part two? An OCLC webservices hackathon? Send the proposals along... Thanks, Kevin
Re: [CODE4LIB] preconference proposals
I'm interested presenting something Solr+library related at c4l10. I'm soliciting ideas from the community on what angle makes the most sense. At first I was thinking a regular conference talk proposal, but perhaps a preconference session would be better. I could be game for a half day session. It could be either an introductory Solr class, get up and running with Solr (+ Blacklight, of course). Or maybe a more advanced session on topics like leveraging dismax, Solr performance and scalability tuning, and so on, or maybe a freer form Solr hackathon session where I'd be there to help with hurdles or answer questions. Thoughts? Suggestions? Anything I can do to help the library world with Solr is fair game - let me know. Thanks, Erik On Nov 9, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: Hi all, It's time again to collect proposals for Code4Lib 2010 preconference sessions. We have space for six full day sessions (or 12 half day sessions (or some combination of the two)). If we get more than we can accommodate, we'll vote... but I don't think we will (take that as a challenge to propose lots of interesting preconference sessions). Like last year, attendees will pay $12.50 for a half day or $25 for the whole day. The preconference space will be in the hotel so we'll have wireless available. If you have a preconference idea, send it to this list, to me, or to the code4libcon planning list. We'll put them up on the wiki once we start receiving them. Some possible ideas? A Drupal in libraries session? LOD part two? An OCLC webservices hackathon? Send the proposals along... Thanks, Kevin
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This isn't enough for a whole session or workshop, but we've been using Solr for a lot of small-to-medium-sized projects, and I've been interested in ways to optimize an environment to host a lot of little Solr instances (multicore?). I've also been working a bit with Solango (Solr Django) and am interested in what kind of development is happening with Solr connectors for simple webapp frameworks like that. -Andy Just one topic to toss out there. On 11/10/09 8:38 AM, Erik Hatcher erikhatc...@mac.com wrote: I'm interested presenting something Solr+library related at c4l10. I'm soliciting ideas from the community on what angle makes the most sense. At first I was thinking a regular conference talk proposal, but perhaps a preconference session would be better. I could be game for a half day session. It could be either an introductory Solr class, get up and running with Solr (+ Blacklight, of course). Or maybe a more advanced session on topics like leveraging dismax, Solr performance and scalability tuning, and so on, or maybe a freer form Solr hackathon session where I'd be there to help with hurdles or answer questions. Thoughts? Suggestions? Anything I can do to help the library world with Solr is fair game - let me know. Thanks, Erik On Nov 9, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: Hi all, It's time again to collect proposals for Code4Lib 2010 preconference sessions. We have space for six full day sessions (or 12 half day sessions (or some combination of the two)). If we get more than we can accommodate, we'll vote... but I don't think we will (take that as a challenge to propose lots of interesting preconference sessions). Like last year, attendees will pay $12.50 for a half day or $25 for the whole day. The preconference space will be in the hotel so we'll have wireless available. If you have a preconference idea, send it to this list, to me, or to the code4libcon planning list. We'll put them up on the wiki once we start receiving them. Some possible ideas? A Drupal in libraries session? LOD part two? An OCLC webservices hackathon? Send the proposals along... Thanks, Kevin
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Erik Hatcher erikhatc...@mac.com wrote: I could be game for a half day session. It could be either an introductory Solr class, get up and running with Solr (+ Blacklight, of course). Or maybe a more advanced session on topics like leveraging dismax, Solr performance and scalability tuning, and so on, or maybe a freer form Solr hackathon session where I'd be there to help with hurdles or answer questions. Thoughts? Suggestions? I think that'd be great. I'd be more interested in a more advanced session personally (dismax, tuning, etc.) Thanks! Kevin
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If you'd be up for it Erik, I'd envision a basic session in the morning. Some of us (like me) have never gotten Solr up and running. Then the afternoon could break off for an advanced session. Though I like Bess's idea, too! Would that be suitable for a conference breakout? Not sure I'd want to pit it against Solr advanced session! -Jodi On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Kevin S. Clarke kscla...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Erik Hatcher erikhatc...@mac.com wrote: I could be game for a half day session. It could be either an introductory Solr class, get up and running with Solr (+ Blacklight, of course). Or maybe a more advanced session on topics like leveraging dismax, Solr performance and scalability tuning, and so on, or maybe a freer form Solr hackathon session where I'd be there to help with hurdles or answer questions. Thoughts? Suggestions? I think that'd be great. I'd be more interested in a more advanced session personally (dismax, tuning, etc.) Thanks! Kevin
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I like the Hacker 101/102/201/202 idea. While you do have a lot of seasoned programmers at c4l, others (and myself) haven't quite yet broken that barrier between the mundane and programming enlightenment/zen. I've met quite a few folks in that situation at the last c4l, and I'm sure many would appreciate such a session so they can get up to speed. Thanks, Becky Still working on opening that third eye of hers... On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Dan Chudnov daniel.chud...@gmail.com wrote: - Hacker 101/102/201/202, a friendly session to help people still newish with the coding thing to get up to speed a little more I'd be happy to propose and run the second, especially if I could find a co-conspirator. If Chick is up for running the first, I'd sign up to help him.
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Dan Chudnov daniel.chud...@gmail.com wrote: - Heckle Me, based on the example/ideas behind Chick's lightning talk last year The PDF of chick's slides is 404-ing [1]. Can someone remind me what this was about? --jay 1 http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/chicks-lightning.pdf
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Bad URL there. The real one is http://code4lib.org/files/chicks-lightning.pdf (that's where all the other lightning talks were stored). t On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Jay Luker jay.lu...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Dan Chudnov daniel.chud...@gmail.com wrote: - Heckle Me, based on the example/ideas behind Chick's lightning talk last year The PDF of chick's slides is 404-ing [1]. Can someone remind me what this was about? --jay 1 http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/chicks-lightning.pdf
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Those. Slides. Don't. Help. --jay On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Tom Keays tomke...@gmail.com wrote: Bad URL there. The real one is http://code4lib.org/files/chicks-lightning.pdf (that's where all the other lightning talks were stored). t On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Jay Luker jay.lu...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Dan Chudnov daniel.chud...@gmail.com wrote: - Heckle Me, based on the example/ideas behind Chick's lightning talk last year The PDF of chick's slides is 404-ing [1]. Can someone remind me what this was about? --jay 1 http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/chicks-lightning.pdf
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Maybe you'd have to be e.e. cummings, but maybe not: the keyword refactotum leads to this: http://blog.thinkrelevance.com/2008/5/23/refactotum-overview ...which was what he described, and which sounds like a great session when led by the right hands. I think we could do it at c4lc. On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Jay Luker wrote: Those. Slides. Don't. Help. --jay On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Tom Keays tomke...@gmail.com wrote: Bad URL there. The real one is http://code4lib.org/files/chicks-lightning.pdf (that's where all the other lightning talks were stored). t On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Jay Luker jay.lu...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Dan Chudnov daniel.chud...@gmail.com wrote: - Heckle Me, based on the example/ideas behind Chick's lightning talk last year The PDF of chick's slides is 404-ing [1]. Can someone remind me what this was about? --jay 1 http://code4lib.org/conference/2009/chicks-lightning.pdf
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+1 I'm managing a Solr-powered app, but haven't had much time to learn how to use Solr better. Hands-on would be great as long as the attendees understand the prereqs and were ready to jump in and work - not expecting time and assistance with downloading, installing, etc. Speaking as one of the problem children (Windows users), I think that pretty much derailed the VuFind session last year. Jason Jason Stirnaman Bess Sadler eo...@virginia.edu 11/10/2009 8:41 AM +1 from me on this, no surprise. :) What if we did a next gen catalog day thing? We could spend the morning on solr, which many projects have in common, in the morning, and then in the afternoon have sessions that build on top of solr (vufind, blacklight, kochief, etc.) We were going to submit a proposal for a blacklight pre-conference regardless, but it makes a lot of sense to do something more coordinated, and it particularly makes sense to ensure that as many people as possible can take advantage of Erik's presence and expertise. One goal I also have for this conference is to solicit community feedback on how to improve solrmarc and marc4j, which are used by both blacklight and vufind (and a few other projects at this point... yes?). A solr-focused session might be a good venue for some of that discussion as well... as we discuss neat things to do with solr we might ask how do we do that with solrmarc. Or maybe that's a separate discussion. It's up to the community. Bess On 10-Nov-09, at 5:38 AM, Erik Hatcher wrote: I'm interested presenting something Solr+library related at c4l10. I'm soliciting ideas from the community on what angle makes the most sense. At first I was thinking a regular conference talk proposal, but perhaps a preconference session would be better. I could be game for a half day session. It could be either an introductory Solr class, get up and running with Solr (+ Blacklight, of course). Or maybe a more advanced session on topics like leveraging dismax, Solr performance and scalability tuning, and so on, or maybe a freer form Solr hackathon session where I'd be there to help with hurdles or answer questions. Thoughts? Suggestions? Anything I can do to help the library world with Solr is fair game - let me know. Thanks, Erik On Nov 9, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: Hi all, It's time again to collect proposals for Code4Lib 2010 preconference sessions. We have space for six full day sessions (or 12 half day sessions (or some combination of the two)). If we get more than we can accommodate, we'll vote... but I don't think we will (take that as a challenge to propose lots of interesting preconference sessions). Like last year, attendees will pay $12.50 for a half day or $25 for the whole day. The preconference space will be in the hotel so we'll have wireless available. If you have a preconference idea, send it to this list, to me, or to the code4libcon planning list. We'll put them up on the wiki once we start receiving them. Some possible ideas? A Drupal in libraries session? LOD part two? An OCLC webservices hackathon? Send the proposals along... Thanks, Kevin
