Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-09 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
I have created an initial pile of RDF, mostly. I am in the process of experimenting with linked data for archives. My goal is to use existing (EAD and MARC) metadata to create RDF/XML, and then to expose this RDF/XML using linked data principles. Once I get that far I hope to slurp up the

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-06 Thread Karen Coyle
On 12/5/13 8:11 AM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: Where will I get the URIs from? I will get them by combining some sort of unique code (like an OCLC symbol) or namespace with the value of the MARC records' 001 fields. You actually need 3 URIs per triple: subject URI (which is what I believe you

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-06 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
I have successfully been able to being the systematic transformation process of EAD and MARC to RDF/XML, and consequently been able to literally illustrate the resulting triples. [1, 2] From the blog posting [3]: The resulting images are huge, and the astute/diligent reader will see a

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-06 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: You still haven't really answered my question about what you're hoping to achieve and who stands to benefit from it. I don't see how assigning a bunch of arbitrary identifiers, properties, and values to a description of a

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-06 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Kevin Ford k...@3windmills.com wrote: Frankly, I don't see how you can generate RDF that anybody would want to use from XSLT: where would your URIs come from? What, exactly, are you modeling? -- Our experience getting to good, URI rich RDF has been basically a

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-05 Thread Christian Pietsch
Hi Eric, you seem to have missed the Catmandu tutorial at SWIB13. Luckily there is a basic tutorial and a demo online: http://librecat.org/ The demo happens to be about transforming MARC to RDF using the Catmandu Perl framework. It gives you full flexibility by separating the importer from the

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf [comet]

2013-12-05 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Corey A Harper corey.har...@nyu.edu wrote: Have you had a look at Ed Chamberlain's work on COMET: https://github.com/edchamberlain/COMET It's been a while since I've run this, but if I remember correctly, it was fairly easy-to-use. Thank you for the pointer. I

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf [mods_rdfizer]

2013-12-05 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Corey A Harper corey.har...@nyu.edu wrote: Also, though much older, I seem to remember the Simile MARC RDFizer being a pretty straightforward one to run: http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/MARC/MODS_RDFizer MODS aficionados will point to some problems with some of it's

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf [mods_rdfizer]

2013-12-05 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Dec 5, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: http://simile.mit.edu/wiki/MARC/MODS_RDFizer ...The distribution includes a possibly cool stylesheet — mods2rdf.xslt. Ah ha! The MODS_RDFizer’s mods2rdf.xslt file functioned very well against one of my MODS files: $

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf [catmandu]

2013-12-05 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Dec 5, 2013, at 3:07 AM, Christian Pietsch chr.pietsch+web4...@googlemail.com wrote: you seem to have missed the Catmandu tutorial at SWIB13. Luckily there is a basic tutorial and a demo online: http://librecat.org/ I did attend SWIB13, and I really wanted to go to the Catmandu workshop,

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-05 Thread Ross Singer
Eric, I'm having a hard time figuring out exactly what you're hoping to get. Going from MARC to RDF was my great white whale for years while Talis' main business interests involved both of those (although not archival collections). Anything that will remodel MARC to (decent) RDF is going be:

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf [to batch or not to batch]

2013-12-05 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
When exposing sets of MARC records as linked data, do you think it is better to expose them in batch (collection) files or as individual RDF serializations? To bastardize the Bard — “To batch or not to batch? That is the question.” Suppose I am a medium-sized academic research library. Suppose

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-05 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Dec 5, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, I'm having a hard time figuring out exactly what you're hoping to get. Going from MARC to RDF was my great white whale for years while Talis' main business interests involved both of those (although not archival

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-05 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: I’m hoping to articulate and implement a simple and functional method for exposing EAD and MARC metadata as linked data. Isn't the point of this to expose archival description as linked data? What about description

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-05 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Mark A. Matienzo mark.matie...@gmail.com wrote: I’m hoping to articulate and implement a simple and functional method for exposing EAD and MARC metadata as linked data. Isn't the point of this to expose archival description as linked data? What about description

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-05 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: Good question! At the very least, these applications (ArchivesSpace, Archivists’ Toolkit, etc.) can regularly and systematically export their data as EAD, and the EAD can be made available as linked data. It would be

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-05 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Mark A. Matienzo mark.matie...@gmail.com wrote: At the very least, these applications (ArchivesSpace, Archivists’ Toolkit, etc.) can regularly and systematically export their data as EAD, and the EAD can be made available as linked data. Wouldn't it make more

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-05 Thread Corey A Harper
With apologies to Eric to others from the LiAM project, I feel like I want to jump in here with a little more context. Eric, or Aaron, or Anne, please feel free to correct any of what I say below. I agree with the points made and concerns raised by both Ross Mark -- most significantly, that a

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-05 Thread McAulay, Elizabeth
: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Mark A. Matienzo mark.matie...@gmail.com wrote: At the very least, these applications (ArchivesSpace, Archivists’ Toolkit, etc.) can regularly and systematically export their data as EAD, and the EAD can be made available as linked

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-05 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Mark A. Matienzo mark.matie...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't it make more sense, especially with a system like ArchivesSpace, which provides a backend HTTP API and a public UI, to publish

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-05 Thread Ross Singer
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: “There is more than one way to skin a cat.” There are advantages and disadvantages to every software solution. I think what Mark and I are trying to say is that the first step to this solution is not by applying

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-05 Thread Kevin Ford
* BIBFRAME Tools [6] - sports nice ontologies, but the online tools won’t scale for large operations -- The code running the transformation at [6] is available here: https://github.com/lcnetdev/marc2bibframe We've run several million records through it at one time. As with

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-05 Thread Kevin Ford
Anything that will remodel MARC to (decent) RDF is going be: - Non-trivial to install - Non-trivial to use - Slow - Require massive amounts of memory/disk space Choose any two. -- I'll second this. Frankly, I don't see how you can generate RDF that anybody would want to

Re: [CODE4LIB] transforming marc to rdf

2013-12-04 Thread Corey A Harper
Eric, Have you had a look at Ed Chamberlain's work on COMET: https://github.com/edchamberlain/COMET It's been a while since I've run this, but if I remember correctly, it was fairly easy-to-use. Also, though much older, I seem to remember the Simile MARC RDFizer being a pretty straightforward