[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-1820) Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.

2019-03-31 Thread Geertjan Wielenga (JIRA)


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Geertjan Wielenga commented on NETBEANS-1820:
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We have removed the images. We have removed the sample that contained them. The 
sample was old and we do not need it anymore and the images they contained were 
absolutely unimportant and irrelevant to the Apache NetBeans project. 

> Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-1820
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1820
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Next
>Reporter: Laszlo Kishalmi
>Assignee: Geertjan Wielenga
>Priority: Blocker
>  Labels: license, pull-request-available
>  Time Spent: 1h
>  Remaining Estimate: 0h
>
> Check if we have the permission to use/distribute these files:
> ./webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/*
> It seems:
> webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/public_html/img/*
> contains files from a professional photographer:
> https://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/10542-kitten-and-rabbit



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-1820) Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.

2019-03-30 Thread Adrian Cole (JIRA)


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Adrian Cole commented on NETBEANS-1820:
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my 2p, there has been a large discussion which distracts anyone reading 
incubator threads. That may or may not be fair towards the issue here. At any 
rate, I would love for this topic to go away forever to save from distractions 
in the future.

Can someone familiar mention the full paths to the cat photo which is the 
center of all of this? That way, people can verify it is gone or replaced, or 
had explicit permissions granted.

The idea is that if the issue is tracked here, it won't leak into a heated 
general@ thread again, causing such a distraction.

> Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-1820
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1820
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Next
>Reporter: Laszlo Kishalmi
>Assignee: Geertjan Wielenga
>Priority: Blocker
>  Labels: license, pull-request-available
>  Time Spent: 1h
>  Remaining Estimate: 0h
>
> Check if we have the permission to use/distribute these files:
> ./webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/*
> It seems:
> webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/public_html/img/*
> contains files from a professional photographer:
> https://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/10542-kitten-and-rabbit



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-1820) Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.

2019-03-30 Thread Craig L Russell (JIRA)


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Craig L Russell commented on NETBEANS-1820:
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I believe there are two ways of handling this issue.
 # Ask the owner for permission to use the files.
 # Remove the files and find some other way to achieve the test functionality.

History is only important if Oracle obtained permission to use the images.

> Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-1820
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1820
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Next
>Reporter: Laszlo Kishalmi
>Assignee: Geertjan Wielenga
>Priority: Blocker
>  Labels: license, pull-request-available
>  Time Spent: 1h
>  Remaining Estimate: 0h
>
> Check if we have the permission to use/distribute these files:
> ./webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/*
> It seems:
> webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/public_html/img/*
> contains files from a professional photographer:
> https://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/10542-kitten-and-rabbit



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-1820) Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.

2019-03-30 Thread Geertjan Wielenga (JIRA)


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Geertjan Wielenga commented on NETBEANS-1820:
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Personally, I'd recommend simply deleting these images.

> Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-1820
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1820
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Next
>Reporter: Laszlo Kishalmi
>Assignee: Geertjan Wielenga
>Priority: Blocker
>  Labels: license
>
> Check if we have the permission to use/distribute these files:
> ./webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/*
> It seems:
> webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/public_html/img/*
> contains files from a professional photographer:
> https://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/10542-kitten-and-rabbit



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-1820) Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.

2019-03-30 Thread JIRA


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Matthias Bläsing commented on NETBEANS-1820:


So this comes back to: Was the donation correctly done? If so, the images were 
donated, we were in a position to call them now ALv2, or they were not, which 
raises the question, which was also in the donation zips and not correctly 
donated.

> Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-1820
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1820
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Next
>Reporter: Laszlo Kishalmi
>Assignee: Geertjan Wielenga
>Priority: Blocker
>  Labels: license
>
> Check if we have the permission to use/distribute these files:
> ./webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/*
> It seems:
> webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/public_html/img/*
> contains files from a professional photographer:
> https://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/10542-kitten-and-rabbit



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-1820) Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.

2019-03-30 Thread Geertjan Wielenga (JIRA)


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Geertjan Wielenga commented on NETBEANS-1820:
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FYI: The discussion on the IPMC thread has nothing at all to do with core 
libraries of the java platform. Most of the concerns raised are related to 
files that are nothing more than data and Apache is clear about that -- these 
do not need to be licensed. Quite frankly a LibreBeans project does not solve 
anything and creates heaps of new concerns -- anyway, this is the wrong place 
for that discussion, you're always welcome to start that discussion on the dev 
mailing list. 

> Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-1820
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1820
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Next
>Reporter: Laszlo Kishalmi
>Assignee: Geertjan Wielenga
>Priority: Blocker
>  Labels: license
>
> Check if we have the permission to use/distribute these files:
> ./webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/*
> It seems:
> webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/public_html/img/*
> contains files from a professional photographer:
> https://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/10542-kitten-and-rabbit



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-1820) Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.

2019-03-30 Thread JIRA


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Matthias Bläsing commented on NETBEANS-1820:


I'm not subscribed there. The images have clear license info now(see link 
above). When netbeans rat report is created, there is a secondary file: 
nbbuild/build/rat-appendix.txt, this summarises the license info for special 
cases.

My gut feeling is still, that the ASF is a bad fit for the netbeans IDE. There 
is a heap of license conflicts, as core libraries of the java platform are 
either GPLv2-only or GPLv2-CPE and Oracle did nothing to address the conflict. 
There is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-336, which may clear some 
thinks up. Quite frankly a LibreBeans project sounds tempting.

> Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-1820
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1820
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Next
>Reporter: Laszlo Kishalmi
>Assignee: Geertjan Wielenga
>Priority: Blocker
>  Labels: license
>
> Check if we have the permission to use/distribute these files:
> ./webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/*
> It seems:
> webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/public_html/img/*
> contains files from a professional photographer:
> https://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/10542-kitten-and-rabbit



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-1820) Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.

2019-03-30 Thread Geertjan Wielenga (JIRA)


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Geertjan Wielenga commented on NETBEANS-1820:
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I guess you missed the discussion on the IPMC vote thread. :-)

https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/505233e52be5bb6a7f047b7bcaa806c0135920539f7c8a26b3a56ddd@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E

> Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-1820
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1820
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Next
>Reporter: Laszlo Kishalmi
>Assignee: Geertjan Wielenga
>Priority: Blocker
>  Labels: license
>
> Check if we have the permission to use/distribute these files:
> ./webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/*
> It seems:
> webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/public_html/img/*
> contains files from a professional photographer:
> https://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/10542-kitten-and-rabbit



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-1820) Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.

2019-03-30 Thread JIRA


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Matthias Bläsing commented on NETBEANS-1820:


Is there a reason this was reopened?

> Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-1820
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1820
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Next
>Reporter: Laszlo Kishalmi
>Assignee: Geertjan Wielenga
>Priority: Blocker
>  Labels: license
>
> Check if we have the permission to use/distribute these files:
> ./webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/*
> It seems:
> webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/public_html/img/*
> contains files from a professional photographer:
> https://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/10542-kitten-and-rabbit



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-1820) Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.

2019-03-30 Thread Geertjan Wielenga (JIRA)


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Geertjan Wielenga commented on NETBEANS-1820:
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Oracle Legal knows nothing at all about these images, yes, sure, we could 
remove just the images or the whole sample, i.e., the whole module, since the 
module does nothing more than provide that sample.

> Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-1820
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1820
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Next
>Reporter: Laszlo Kishalmi
>Assignee: Geertjan Wielenga
>Priority: Blocker
>  Labels: license
>
> Check if we have the permission to use/distribute these files:
> ./webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/*
> It seems:
> webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/public_html/img/*
> contains files from a professional photographer:
> https://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/10542-kitten-and-rabbit



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-1820) Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.

2019-02-09 Thread JIRA


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Matthias Bläsing commented on NETBEANS-1820:


These files were part of the donation of oracle to the ASF. That is reason, 
that the license status was changed to ALv2-ASF:
[webcommon/web.client.samples/licenseinfo.xml|https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/webcommon/web.client.samples/licenseinfo.xml]
There is no indication, that oracle was not in a position to donate the files. 
Of course, I'm not a lawyer, so 


> Clarify the licensing concerns of EaselDemo files.
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-1820
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1820
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Next
>Reporter: Laszlo Kishalmi
>Priority: Blocker
>  Labels: license
>
> Check if we have the permission to use/distribute these files:
> ./webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/*
> It seems:
> webcommon/web.client.samples/EaselDemo/public_html/img/*
> contains files from a professional photographer:
> https://www.warrenphotographic.co.uk/10542-kitten-and-rabbit



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