subversion {was Re: [codec] [proposal] Moving To Apache Commons}

2003-12-20 Thread __matthewHawthorne
Henri Yandell wrote: #1. Commons Codec will be hosted on Subversion -1 I've not been able to install the server on Linux, or the client-ssl on a Mac with ease. Partly this is my own damn stupidity I suspect, but I'm competent on both platforms and would expect it to work pretty easily. I do want

Re: Commons - TLP

2003-12-20 Thread Phil Steitz
Stephen Colebourne wrote: From: Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] +i. I want it to maintain the community, but I want Jakarta to be the first to move to Brian Behlendorf's email a year ago in which he foresaw sourceforge-like foundry's. I'd like Jakarta to shirk all of its projects and set itself

Re: [codec] [proposal] Moving To Apache Commons

2003-12-20 Thread Stephen Colebourne
I understand the fustrations of J-C that might cause this proposal. I do fear the result of this change though. However, I believe that an individual component has the right to decide its own fate within J-C. So all I can do is indicate my -0 to the change at the moment as I don't think

What is Jakarta Commons?

2003-12-20 Thread Stephen Colebourne
Jakarta is having trouble redefining what is truly stands for. I had hoped that in Jakarta-Commons we knew. However, since its specifically different to what is in the charter, I guess we should decide. And then update the charter. http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/charter.html From the websites:

Re: [codec] [proposal] Moving To Apache Commons

2003-12-20 Thread Tim O'Brien
Henri Yandell wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Tim O'Brien wrote: To this end, I propose that Jakarta Commons Codec be officially transformed into Apache Commons Codec. -0, in that I'm in favour of trying to push for an entire, or large, J-C to A-C-ish move. We're pretty soon going to have

Re: [codec] [proposal] Moving To Apache Commons

2003-12-20 Thread Tim O'Brien
Stephen Colebourne wrote: I understand the fustrations of J-C that might cause this proposal. I do fear the result of this change though. However, I believe that an individual component has the right to decide its own fate within J-C. So all I can do is indicate my -0 to the change at the moment

Re: Commons - TLP

2003-12-20 Thread Dirk Verbeeck
Do you think that moving JXPath to another location will increase visibility/community? I don't think so. It will be just another menu item like ORO, Regexp, BCEL, ... There are better ways to attact more users IMHO, doing more announcements (milestone/final releases), provide examples of

Re: [codec] [proposal] Moving To Apache Commons

2003-12-20 Thread Stephen Colebourne
From: Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stephen Colebourne wrote: Will you ask for your own mailing list? I don't see why not. I would prefer this for a few reasons. First, I think that the shared mailing list is distracting from the focus needed to produce quality software. Second, I think

Re: [codec] [proposal] Moving To Apache Commons

2003-12-20 Thread Dirk Verbeeck
-0, unless there is a real plan to port codec to another language (in the very near future), I would ask you to remain at jakarta-commons. Testing the waters of Apache Commons is a good idea but the real test is: Can Apache commons build a cross-language community? Testing Subversion Jira

RE: *** JIRA - PLEASE CHECK/TEST ***

2003-12-20 Thread Noel J. Bergman
The initial message was cross-posted to notify the specific projects that are represented in the test migration. Please do NOT cross-post (yes, I understand the irony of cross-posting to ask that people not cross-post). If you want to discuss our Jira installation, a reasonable cross-project

Re: Commons - TLP

2003-12-20 Thread Dirk Verbeeck
Maybe Jarkarta should take up the role of a [EMAIL PROTECTED] gatekeeper. Something like the java foundary at sourceforge but with the additional task to bring all the (independent) java communities together and provide a vision for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] future. -- Dirk Henri Yandell wrote:

[maven] developer repository?

2003-12-20 Thread __matthewHawthorne
I'm using Maven, but I frequently run into situations where a version of a jar I need isn't on ibiblio. For example, yesterday at work I needed the postgres 7.4 jdbc driver, and also the new xdoclet 1.2, neither of which are there yet. For just a single developer, it's as easy as copying the

Re: [codec] [proposal] Moving To Apache Commons

2003-12-20 Thread Martin Cooper
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Tim O'Brien wrote: Enough people profess interest in using this product, but only a few committers (myself and Gary) actually go about the business of contributing. Believe it or not, I think that components get lost in the signal to noise ratio of the Jakarta Commons

RE: [maven] developer repository?

2003-12-20 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Matthew, re: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED] he.orgmsgNo=40252 See [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are already a group trying to do this work. Tim Anderson, for one, has done a superb job, as have others. If you can help herd the various projects that would be good. ---

Re: [maven] developer repository?

2003-12-20 Thread Martin Cooper
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, __matthewHawthorne wrote: I'm using Maven, but I frequently run into situations where a version of a jar I need isn't on ibiblio. For example, yesterday at work I needed the postgres 7.4 jdbc driver, and also the new xdoclet 1.2, neither of which are there yet. For

Re: Commons - TLP

2003-12-20 Thread Ted Husted
+1 for Matthew Harthrone's post. The board installed the Apache Commons with the charter creation and maintenance of open-source software related to reusable libraries and components http://apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2002/board_minutes_2002_09_18.txt and it was later affirmed that

Re: [maven] developer repository?

2003-12-20 Thread __matthewHawthorne
As Noel pointed out, there's a repo project starting up elsewhere. In the meantime, though, please be *very* careful about what you make available in your public_html directory. Specifically, you need to ensure that the licenses for all of those components permit redistribution, since that is

Re: [codec] [proposal] Moving To Apache Commons

2003-12-20 Thread David Graham
I agree with everything Martin said. I often read codec messages and if it wasn't hosted in Jakarta commons I wouldn't have worked on the DigestUtils code. Granted, that code is a very small piece of codec but I think it says a lot about the community that people unrelated to a particular

Re: [codec] [proposal] Moving To Apache Commons

2003-12-20 Thread Scott Sanders
On Dec 20, 2003, at 2:47 AM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: To go to A-C means to have no supporting community other than codec developers. Will you ask for your own mailing list? I would not. or be on the same list as Serf? Or be here on the same list as jxpath, digester, io, etc? I do not see the

cvs commit: jakarta-commons/lang/src/test/org/apache/commons/lang/time DurationFormatUtilsTest.java

2003-12-20 Thread psteitz
psteitz 2003/12/20 14:40:40 Modified:lang/src/test/org/apache/commons/lang/time DurationFormatUtilsTest.java Log: Added tests for days. Revision ChangesPath 1.6 +8 -0

Re: [maven] developer repository?

2003-12-20 Thread Tim O'Brien
I be a little clearer here. Do not redistribute anything from ASF hardware that is covered on a license that is incompatible with the Apache License. If you are unsure as to what that means, I'd suggest joining the licensing list and asking. I'd suggest using your own resources for

Re: subversion {was Re: [codec] [proposal] Moving To Apache Commons}

2003-12-20 Thread Greg Stein
On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 11:21:39AM -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, __matthewHawthorne wrote: ... I was recently forced to switch to Subversion at work. I haven't yet tried to install a server, but the client and client-ssl were pretty simple -- I just installed the

cvs commit: jakarta-commons-sandbox/io/xdocs index.xml navigation.xml

2003-12-20 Thread matth
matth 2003/12/20 16:53:41 Modified:io project.xml io/xdocs navigation.xml Added: io/xdocs index.xml Log: Updated documentation. Revision ChangesPath 1.15 +10 -5 jakarta-commons-sandbox/io/project.xml Index: project.xml

[io] docs and refactorings

2003-12-20 Thread __matthewHawthorne
I made some updates to [io]'s documentation today. I copied some of the package description for the main package and put it on the main index of the site. I think it's useful to have a nice overview of the projects with links to Javadoc on the front page. Since Maven is so good at generating

Re: Commons - TLP

2003-12-20 Thread Henri Yandell
The big difference is that, if J-C joins A-C, we don't necessarily maintain our current release structures, rules, lists etc. If A-C joins J-C, the J-C way of doing things becomes the initial A-C way of doing things, and we fix the ones that are a problem for the new projects. A-C is 1 project

Re: [io] docs and refactorings

2003-12-20 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, __matthewHawthorne wrote: Since Maven is so good at generating docs, I'm starting to favor useful xdocs over long package descriptions. It just seems easier to navigate. Ditto, though I've started to favour turning off the default Maven navigation and setting my own up

Re: [maven] developer repository?

2003-12-20 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sat, 2003-12-20 at 19:01, Greg Stein wrote: I'd also like to point out the Board has specifically requested that the Apache Maven Project should distribute jars from ASF hardware. We make certain guarantees to our users, and those guarantees require distributing ASF code from known, secure

Re: [maven] developer repository?

2003-12-20 Thread __matthewHawthorne
Jason van Zyl wrote: If some wants to make a maven-like directory within the standard distribution location on ASF hardware right now they can. That could be a first, very practical step the repo project could make. Then let projects put their artifacts in there as they wish. This is what I was

Re: Commons - TLP

2003-12-20 Thread Scott Sanders
I think that a lot of this can be taken care of in the join, should J-C join A-C in its entirety, since there will be a large group joining a smaller one. On Dec 20, 2003, at 5:19 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: The big difference is that, if J-C joins A-C, we don't necessarily maintain our current

Re: What is Jakarta Commons?

2003-12-20 Thread Bill Barker
Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jakarta is having trouble redefining what is truly stands for. I had hoped that in Jakarta-Commons we knew. However, since its specifically different to what is in the charter, I guess we should decide. And then

Re: [maven] developer repository?

2003-12-20 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sat, 2003-12-20 at 20:49, __matthewHawthorne wrote: Jason van Zyl wrote: If some wants to make a maven-like directory within the standard distribution location on ASF hardware right now they can. That could be a first, very practical step the repo project could make. Then let projects

Re: Building source

2003-12-20 Thread Michael Becke
Not sure what to tell you about these errors. The source code in HttpClient is always in a compiling state. My guess is that your compiler is perhaps a little non-standard. URIUtil.Coder extends URI and as such has access to protected methods on URI. Mike On Dec 19, 2003, at 8:11 PM,

\ in path (instead of /)

2003-12-20 Thread Sam Berlin
HttpClient (rc2) currently barfs on addresses that look like: http://address:port\path\to\some\file.html It might be worthwhile to allow these slashes to be parsed as if they were /'s. (Note that I have purposely not used the words forward or backward slash because I have never been able to

Re: \ in path (instead of /)

2003-12-20 Thread Sven Köhler
http://address:port\path\to\some\file.html It might be worthwhile to allow these slashes to be parsed as if they were /'s. such URLs are totally invalid in my eyes. it's nice that some browsers accept them, but i wouldn't care if HttpClient doesn't. Additional it's farely easy to replace them