Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-23 Thread Henri Yandell
Antony Riley over at osjava.org (thus my 'we'). I just talked with Torsten on IM and he feels it's easiest to stay with the mojo's. Sounds good to me. Hen On 5/20/06, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who wrote jardiff? If there's a chance the Maven plugin can be maintained within that

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-22 Thread Henri Yandell
On 5/21/06, Dion Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, this sounds like bike shed paint discussion. It's more of a water cooler discussion - and I think it's pretty good community stuff. For example, I wrote the FAQ report off (never having used it), but given that Martin has positive

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-21 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Well it does, if the user remembers to upgrade all three plugins instead of just one of them :) -- Dennis Lundberg Lukas Theussl wrote: Version 1.9 of the m1 changelog plugin also introduced the maven.changelog.date=lastRelease option, which will set the date automatically to the last

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-21 Thread Dion Gillard
Guys, this sounds like bike shed paint discussion. We're under resourced here as it is. Do we really have extra volunteers waiting to frack about making reports consistent? Does it really make it easier for our users? I haven't seen complaints about inconsistent maven reports lately. AFAICT,

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-21 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Dion Gillard wrote: Guys, this sounds like bike shed paint discussion. Well, in that case I want mine blue ;) We're under resourced here as it is. Do we really have extra volunteers waiting to frack about making reports consistent? Does it really make it easier for our users? I haven't

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 22:06 +0200, Dennis Lundberg wrote: Dion Gillard wrote: snip We're under resourced here as it is. Do we really have extra volunteers waiting to frack about making reports consistent? Does it really make it easier for our users? I haven't seen complaints about

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-21 Thread J.Pietschmann
Martin Cooper wrote: - findbugs (same as pmd?) I would rather see this as + than -. CheckStyle, PMD and findbugs have some overlap, but each one has also unique code quality tests. There are a few more utilities of this kind, and there's even a Java Code Meta Checker which consolidates their

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-21 Thread Bill Barker
Dennis Lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dion Gillard wrote: Guys, this sounds like bike shed paint discussion. Well, in that case I want mine blue ;) Paint mine green ;-). We're under resourced here as it is. Do we really have extra volunteers

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-20 Thread Torsten Curdt
Unfortunately codehaus was down when I wanted to commit. So it's still sitting in Jira ..and on my disk I don't know if its desirable, but I'm pretty sure we'd be happy to have the plugin live with jardiff itself if you wanted that. What do you mean? Bringing it over to jakarta/commons?

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-20 Thread Sandy McArthur
On 5/19/06, Dennis Lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to start a discussion about trying to unify which Maven reports should be used for each commons component. Source health + checkstyle (code formatting) + jdepend (quality metrics) + pmd/cpd (bugs, code duplication, coding

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-20 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Lukas Theussl wrote: Hi, Just a few comments from an outsider: - I think the simian report is far more advanced than CPD and much easier to read (on the other hand it's also heavier in resources) - Since you have recently switched to JIRA I'd suggest you have a look at the jira plugin

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-20 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Henri Yandell wrote: Answering inline from the point of view of the published website. CI-wise, I think everything should be turned on. On 5/19/06, Dennis Lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I would like to start a discussion about trying to unify which Maven reports should be used for

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-20 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Brett Porter wrote: Dennis Lundberg wrote: I have also tried to categorize and describe each report, borrowing/stealing a lot from chapter 6 in the new book Better Builds with Maven. Why would you want to do that? :D Oh, I don't know, maybe because it is a great book. It really is very

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-20 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Sandy McArthur wrote: On 5/19/06, Dennis Lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to start a discussion about trying to unify which Maven reports should be used for each commons component. Source health + checkstyle (code formatting) + jdepend (quality metrics) + pmd/cpd (bugs, code

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-20 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Stephen Colebourne wrote: Dennis Lundberg wrote: Changes since last release + clirr (binary compatibility) - jdiff (same as clirr) These are not the same as I would need both to produce a release (clirr for compatability, jdiff for since tags). Oh, I didn't know that. Neither needs to be

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-20 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Dennis, basically I am in compliance with you list except: + developer-activity (SCM activity per developer) + file-activity (SCM activity per file) I don't see much value in them. They just report activities for the last 30 days and even worse, they are not reproduceable, e.g. if you

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-20 Thread Brett Porter
Who wrote jardiff? If there's a chance the Maven plugin can be maintained within that project, and Torsten can still contribute to it, I'm all for it. Jetty does this very successfully. - Brett Torsten Curdt wrote: Unfortunately codehaus was down when I wanted to commit. So it's still

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-20 Thread Brett Porter
Dennis Lundberg wrote: Common setting would be good, but I will not go there just yet. I feel the flames burning already :) It's a good point. I thought there was an agreed standard, but there probably isn't. Which is good, because then I can sneak in the Maven style with lots of whitespace

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-20 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Jörg Schaible wrote: Hi Dennis, basically I am in compliance with you list except: + developer-activity (SCM activity per developer) + file-activity (SCM activity per file) I don't see much value in them. They just report activities for the last 30 days and even worse, they are not

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-20 Thread Lukas Theussl
Version 1.9 of the m1 changelog plugin also introduced the maven.changelog.date=lastRelease option, which will set the date automatically to the last release found in changes.xml. I was under the impression that this should work the same for file-/dev-activity and changelog reports. If not,

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-20 Thread Martin Cooper
On 5/19/06, Dennis Lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I would like to start a discussion about trying to unify which Maven reports should be used for each commons component. The reasons I find for unifying the reports are these: - Makes it easy for our users if we are consistent - they

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-19 Thread Phil Steitz
On 5/19/06, Dennis Lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I would like to start a discussion about trying to unify which Maven reports should be used for each commons component. The reasons I find for unifying the reports are these: - Makes it easy for our users if we are consistent - they

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-19 Thread Stephen Colebourne
Dennis Lundberg wrote: Changes since last release + clirr (binary compatibility) - jdiff (same as clirr) These are not the same as I would need both to produce a release (clirr for compatability, jdiff for since tags). Neither needs to be part of the regular website though. Stephen

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-19 Thread Lukas Theussl
Hi, Just a few comments from an outsider: - I think the simian report is far more advanced than CPD and much easier to read (on the other hand it's also heavier in resources) - Since you have recently switched to JIRA I'd suggest you have a look at the jira plugin which I find very pretty

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-19 Thread Henri Yandell
Answering inline from the point of view of the published website. CI-wise, I think everything should be turned on. On 5/19/06, Dennis Lundberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I would like to start a discussion about trying to unify which Maven reports should be used for each commons component.

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-19 Thread Brett Porter
Dennis Lundberg wrote: I have also tried to categorize and describe each report, borrowing/stealing a lot from chapter 6 in the new book Better Builds with Maven. Why would you want to do that? :D + checkstyle (code formatting) + pmd/cpd (bugs, code duplication, coding standards) Agree,

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-19 Thread Torsten Curdt
+ checkstyle (code formatting) + pmd/cpd (bugs, code duplication, coding standards) Agree, and think commons should specify common settings for both (the pmd ones might be harder to agree on though, so might vary). Uh ...I think checkstyle might be a hard one. And TBH I think that's not

Re: [all] Unifying maven reports?

2006-05-19 Thread Henri Yandell
On 5/19/06, Torsten Curdt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + clirr (binary compatibility) You might also look at Torsten's recent work on jardiff for Maven 2. Unfortunately codehaus was down when I wanted to commit. So it's still sitting in Jira ..and on my disk I don't know if its desirable,