Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

2010-10-29 Thread Andrea Zanni
2010/10/29 Gerard Meijssen > Hoi, > At the Europeana conference in Amsterdam they informed us about a museum > where they had not only the terminology used by professionals, they also had > labels that were added by the public. Analysis of the positive searches > showed that 85% of the searches w

Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

2010-10-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, At the Europeana conference in Amsterdam they informed us about a museum where they had not only the terminology used by professionals, they also had labels that were added by the public. Analysis of the positive searches showed that 85% of the searches where because of labels only 15% was bec

Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

2010-10-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When Chaim Potok wrote about crucifixions in "My name is Asher Lev" he wrote that they are part of the art of a painter. You will find suffering, love, beauty, devotion, belief all expressed in paintings. The western tradition is one where the proverb "a picture paints a thousand words" is acc

Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

2010-10-29 Thread Andrea Zanni
> > in ontological structure - they already have the category tree. It's > for the casual user to type in a few words they're thinking of. Think > something like Getty Images. "Commons is sorta like Getty Images > except it's all free and the search sucks." > > And why not work on metadata? If you

Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

2010-10-29 Thread Orionist
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:35 PM, David Gerard wrote: > > Indeed. Remember that the audience for this is not people interested > in ontological structure - they already have the category tree. It's > for the casual user to type in a few words they're thinking of. Think > something like Getty Image

Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

2010-10-29 Thread Krinkle
Op 29 okt 2010, om 19:35 heeft David Gerard het volgende geschreven: On 29 October 2010 17:55, Krinkle wrote: One could search for a tag, and another and another narrowing down your search. I can't imagine how many times I was looking for something simple and being forced to make a specific c

Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

2010-10-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 October 2010 17:55, Krinkle wrote: > One could search for a tag, and another and another narrowing down > your search. > I can't imagine how many times I was looking for something simple and > being forced > to make a specific choise in order to see a picture. Indeed. Remember that the au

Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

2010-10-29 Thread Krinkle
Op 29 okt 2010, om 18:34 heeft Maarten Dammers het volgende geschreven: > Imho the most important > problem of our current system is intersections. Category:Churches gets > too crowded so we intersect it with locations (I even wrote a bot to > do > that). This "hides" a lot of images. We want to

Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

2010-10-29 Thread Maarten Dammers
Hi guys, So we're having the tags discussion again? Pops up every once in a while. Tags is a step backwards compared to categories. With tags there is a relation between an object (a photo) and a word. No way of telling what the relation is, what language the tag is, no relations between tags

Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

2010-10-29 Thread Delphine Ménard
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Michael Peel wrote: > > On 28 Oct 2010, at 20:38, Maarten Dammers wrote: > >> Op 28-10-2010 20:56, Gerard Meijssen schreef: >>> Hoi, >>> I am writing a series of blog posts about Commons. My aim is to identify >>> the issues that I have with how it functions. The

Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

2010-10-29 Thread Paul Houle
On 10/28/2010 2:56 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > I am writing a series of blog posts about Commons. My aim is to > identify the issues that I have with how it functions. There are > several and I do not bother to write about the ones that are being > tackled by the team around Guillaume

Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

2010-10-28 Thread Michael Peel
On 28 Oct 2010, at 20:38, Maarten Dammers wrote: > Op 28-10-2010 20:56, Gerard Meijssen schreef: >> Hoi, >> I am writing a series of blog posts about Commons. My aim is to identify the >> issues that I have with how it functions. There are several and I do not >> bother to write about the ones

Re: [Commons-l] Use labels in Commons and increase coverage

2010-10-28 Thread Maarten Dammers
Hi, Op 28-10-2010 20:56, Gerard Meijssen schreef: Hoi, I am writing a series of blog posts about Commons. My aim is to identify the issues that I have with how it functions. There are several and I do not bother to write about the ones that are being tackled by the team around Guillaume (as f