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david
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From: Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: community@apache.org
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:07 PM
Subject: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returnedpost
for [EMAIL
3. Apache Newsletter is one of the News from the ASF material,
which people who do not have much time to read all the websites in
the Apache.org have been eager to get in the past,
so it fit to the original usage of [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
and I will publish this newsletter to this
Hi,
Some of you may already be aware that on 1st September the European
parliament will vote [1] on the issue of software patents.
This is something that will directly affect all ASF projects, despite the
care that we take in guaranteeing copyright of contributed code. Approved
patents are not
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 10:36, David Reid wrote:
Any reason why you didn't send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Because I looked at
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#Announcement
and got the intention that announcements@jakarta.apache.org is the right
address for jakarta announcements.
I did
As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated
through your announcement...
If you wish to stick to using the jakarta address them I don't mind and it
may reach more of your intended audience - just curious :)
david
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From: Henning
As I said, I was just looking on the web pages. Maybe we should update
them.
Regards
Henning
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 12:26, David Reid wrote:
As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated
through your announcement...
If you wish to stick
David Reid wrote:
As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated
through your announcement...
unless something has been changed, only mail originating from an @apache.org
address will even reach the announce@apache.org moderation queue. all other
sources will get
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:53:50 -0400
Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Reid wrote:
As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated
through your announcement...
unless something has been changed, only mail originating from an
@apache.org
* Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
Wait, wait.
If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each
announce(ments)@tlp.apache.org mailing lists to forward to
announce@apache.org automatically... Right!?
wrong.
-Thom
And a very sensible one at that!
:)
david
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From: Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: community@apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org
[Fwd:Returnedpost for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David
At 03:39 AM 8/26/2003, David Reid wrote:
3. Apache Newsletter is one of the News from the ASF material,
which people who do not have much time to read all the websites in
the Apache.org have been eager to get in the past,
so it fit to the original usage of [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
and I
Which should be documented somewhere (or I was too blind to see it).
Regards
Henning
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:00, David Reid wrote:
And a very sensible one at that!
:)
david
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Hi,
now I know a reason:
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Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
announce@apache.org:
Must be sent from an @apache.org address.
--On Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:09:14 +0100 Andrew Savory
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I'd like to propose that we close (ie swap the front page for a
protest page) as many of the Apache web sites as possible.
Not to belittle this protest, but we do a good job of bringing our own
sites down
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
Hi,
now I know a reason:
--- cut ---
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
announce@apache.org:
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
I'd like to propose that we close (ie swap the front page for a
protest page) as many of the Apache web sites as possible.
Not to belittle this protest, but we do a good job of bringing our own
sites down ourselves (or UnitedLayer does).
If we were to do this, IMHO,
If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing
software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo.
d.
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From: Justin Erenkrantz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 August 2003 18:07
To: community@apache.org
Cc: [EMAIL
* Danny Angus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing
software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo.
ditto and ditto.
-Thom
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According to Danny Angus:
If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing
software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo.
+1!
ciao...
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Lars Eilebrecht - Beat me, whip me, make me use Windows!
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* Thom May wrote:
* Danny Angus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing
software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo.
ditto and ditto.
+1.
nd
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each
announce(ments)@tlp.apache.org mailing lists to forward to
announce@apache.org automatically... Right!?
Nope, in fact I was arguing against it, unless someone crafts a message to
let the
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Danny Angus wrote:
If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing
software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo.
+1 for me
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Orixo, the XML business alliance -
If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each
announce(ments)@tlp.apache.org mailing lists to forward to
announce@apache.org automatically... Right!?
It was discussed, but I don't believe that it was effected. Brian had some
concerns. See the community@ archives.
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Danny Angus wrote:
If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing
software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo.
Same for both here, if it wasn't clear enough already. :-)
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Gianugo Rabellino
Pro-netics s.r.l. - http://www.pro-netics.com
Orixo, the
--On Tuesday, August 26, 2003 19:18:38 +0200 Gianugo Rabellino
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There is an almost standard page at
http://swpat.ffii.org/group/demo/demo.en.html, so it would just be a
matter of downloading and setting an .htaccess rule. But I understand
that it might be pretty late to
If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing
software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo.
+1
Sander
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Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
If someone (since there seems to be a lot of people +1'ing it) can come
up with a *suitable* page for us to post, if we get a go-ahead from the
board, then I'll post it (at least on www).
I'd like to see a page contain:
- the ASF logo so that this is obvious this is our
On 26/08/2003, at 07:44, Danny Angus wrote:
If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to
opposing
software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo.
d.
+1 and +1!
just FYI: the ISOC members are currently discussing the same issues but
it's probably also
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Danny Angus wrote:
If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing
software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo.
Ditto here: Apache standing up against SW patents might show the industry
they can't play nice with open source
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
Anyway, just in case the board gives the green light, attached is the
(text corrected, thanks!) HTML page. It might need tweaks at the refresh
meta and last link to adjust it to the correct index page. The img
absolute link is on purpose, in case others want to apply
From: Gianugo Rabellino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:47 PM
Andrew Savory wrote:
http://petition.eurolinux.org. You will be redirected automatically to
this site homepage in 60 seconds (or you can reach it directly by
clicking a href=...here/a).
I am in favor of opposing software patents (they aren not working out great
in the USA), but we should not disadvantage our users. If we post anything,
as we did regarding the JCP, it should not prevent our users from easily
using the site. People count on the ASF, and while we may want them to
From: Sander Striker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:55 PM
Hmmm. I was more thinking all or nothing. If the board approves, swap
the main httpd.conf for a config that will serve only this page. We
swap configs again when the protest is over (a day?).
Then
Whatever text we adopted will need to be approved, anyhow, but do you want
to add anything to the effect that the Apache Software Foundation develops
software based upon Open Standards and promotes inter-operability, both of
which would be threatened by software patents, and therefore the ASF is
+1, +1 and the main question remains why we (and I don't mean just the
ASF but all of us that develop and/or work with OSS and free software)
were collectively blind and deaf to this issue. This didn't surface just
today. We simply had a blind spot for this. :-(
Regards
http://cvs.apache.org/~gianugo/apache-protest.html
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Is having the real home page one click or 60-seconds away for one day
really something that bugs the Apache userbase a lot?
No. I think what you did was fine in that regard, and have already
commented on it. We are apparently still dealing with mail-lag. :-)
I know that patents will be a
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Whatever text we adopted will need to be approved, anyhow, but do you want
to add anything to the effect that the Apache Software Foundation develops
software based upon Open Standards and promotes inter-operability, both of
which would be threatened by software patents, and
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Sander Striker wrote:
From: Sander Striker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:55 PM
Hmmm. I was more thinking all or nothing. If the board approves, swap
the main httpd.conf for a config that will serve only this page. We
swap configs
I predict that it will be really ugly. Fortunately, there are Open
Source friendly companies like IBM, so with their patronage, Open
Source can succeed. Should they turn face, ugly will be an
understatement.
Agreed, but did you know: [that IBM is the worlds most prolific patenter]
Yes.
Though I personally support the patent protest; and have been heavily
donating bits, bandwidth,bytes and storage to the cause as a private
citizen; I am not too eager to see the ASF jump into the political arena.
So count it as a -0 for me.
As this is certainly not in one issue which in my
This may well be too late for any form of decision, but I propose that for
the duration of the 27th August 2003 we change the index page of the main
ASF web site to point at a page that states our opposition to the proposal
being voted on and our support for the campaign against it.
The page is
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