Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-30 Thread Ted Husted
I suggest we simply drop the logos and hypertext links for all the mirrors. We say that people who want to give back to Apache shouldn't care if we put an @author link in the source code. (And I agree.) So why not say that mirrors who want to give back to Apache shouldn't care if we link to

Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-28 Thread Simon Kitching
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 02:01, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: Right now we have no real policy with regard to Mirrors; essentially anyone can run a mirror, tell us; we add and they get a logo if they submit one as a small thank you. Legally it is entireyly up to the ASF to choose whether to list

Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Thanks Vadim, I see your points and basically agree - Dirk's proposal to accept all logos/mirrors with possible exceptions (illegal, banned, found offensive by many) sounds easier and certainly good enough. -Bertrand (BTW, I havent found this playboy logo yet - bear with me, just back from

Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-27 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: (BTW, I havent found this playboy logo yet - bear with me, just back from long holidays ;-) Here we go: http://mirrors.playboy.com/icons/playboy.gif ;-) Vadim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 25 août 04, à 15:53, Sam Ruby a écrit : ...What Jim meant when he said that is that people should STOP saying things like I am begging you!! and God help us all., and START making concrete suggestions on how the policy itself should change... So how

Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 25 août 04, à 15:53, Sam Ruby a écrit : ...What Jim meant when he said that is that people should STOP saying things like I am begging you!! and God help us all., and START making concrete suggestions on how the policy itself

Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-26 Thread Steven Noels
On 26 Aug 2004, at 15:18, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I completely agree with Vadim. if you don't like to download stuff from playboy.com don't. How hard is that? IIUC, the technical issue people are referring to is that the download page (and the dropdown list of servers to download from) won't

Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-25 Thread Sam Ruby
James Mitchell wrote: [resend] For the record (and if I wasn't clear before) I am NOT against playboy being a mirror or Apache using the mirror (whether it is being blocked or not). I AM against putting a link and/or image that links from Apache to playboy. Trust me, I've been all over

Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-25 Thread Joshua Slive
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, James Mitchell wrote: I am begging you!! DO NOT put their logo or link on our (yes, OUR) web site. You can't even imagine what the media will do with this if you do. God help us all. You are exagerating to the extreme. Go to google and count how many media

Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-25 Thread Steven Noels
On 25 Aug 2004, at 15:53, Sam Ruby wrote: The closest thing I see to that in your email is a suggestion that we let the Eclipse Foundation be the final arbiter in who the Apache Software Foundation will allow to be listed as an official mirror. ... or that the opinions of those who don't run

Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-25 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
Right now we have no real policy with regard to Mirrors; essentially anyone can run a mirror, tell us; we add and they get a logo if they submit one as a small thank you. Legally it is entireyly up to the ASF to choose whether to list a mirror or not. Recently Playboy.com submitted one. It was

Re: Policy (Was: Playboy mirror logo?)

2004-08-25 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
So let me put in my 5 cents into policy II: - Any company willing too mirror us can do so and can have their logo+link handled. - Any submissions meeting the 3 mechanical goals below will be swiftly handled and added. Provided that -They mirror us faithfully