Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-08 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
- The RSS feed doesn't present the deltas. It appears that events are getting lost. I have nothing useful to contribute to the conversation. I'm just working on fixing that... http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?WikiProjectPage -Andy

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-08 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
(not aimed at everyone...you're just standing in the way ;-) ) Though I must say listening to people who aren't known for writing excessive amounts of documentation debate documentation tools for people who do is extremely amusing.. Meanwhile a previously excluded documentor:

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-08 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Greg Stein wrote: On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 05:08:19PM -0500, James Taylor wrote: You are stating that: 0) download a working copy [this is done only once] 1) go to a page 2) edit it 3) save it 4) commit the page is comparably simple with Feh. I said no such thing. I said that if you wanted to

RE: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-08 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Well, geez. I could have told you that. Why do you think I keep my hair long? To stop people from marrying you? people in men and women ? In Holland both is legal btw :) Mvgr, Martin

RE: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Danny Angus
Therefore 13% of all hits are people checking for new changes. So either we're all bored or theres a demonstrable need for effective notification. Yes I know, I was supposed to be looking at that too. d.

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Ben Hyde
Danny Angus wrote: Therefore 13% of all hits are people checking for new changes. So either we're all bored or theres a demonstrable need for effective notification. Yes I know, I was supposed to be looking at that too. d. It turns out if you build a event driven mail based notification system

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 11:53:52AM -0500, Ben Hyde wrote: ... It turns out if you build a event driven mail based notification system you shortly there after discover that it's too painful to use. The Wiki model results in editors writing changes so they can preview; and in tangles of

RE: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Bah. Use SubWiki, check out the Wiki pages into a working copy, make all your changes, then commit them. Regular commit email sends the full bunch of changes. grin Does this mean that Subversion is coming soon to replace a CVS repository near us? Not that updating a Wiki that way is in the

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread James Taylor
You are stating that: 0) download a working copy [this is done only once] 1) go to a page 2) edit it 3) save it 4) commit the page is comparably simple with 1) go to a page 2) edit it 3) save it and I disagree. If it means I can edit the page in my fancy editor

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 05:08:19PM -0500, James Taylor wrote: You are stating that: 0) download a working copy [this is done only once] 1) go to a page 2) edit it 3) save it 4) commit the page is comparably simple with Feh. I said no such thing. I said that if you

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 02:01:43PM -0800, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: ... Paint me PITA, but I think it's worth playing devil's advocate on this muddy ground. Play devil's advocate, sure, but I'd suggest a bit more research... the ground isn't actually muddy :-) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein,

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Ben Hyde
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:01 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Greg Stein wrote: On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 11:53:52AM -0500, Ben Hyde wrote: ... It turns out if you build a event driven mail based notification system you shortly there after discover that it's too painful to use. The Wiki

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: It can hardly be simpler than what it already is. Introducing an explicit version control cycle (because commits are exactly that) might seem relatively simple (or even totally natural) for somebody (all of us if we are committers) that is used to

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 06:08:25PM -0500, Ben Hyde wrote: ... Greg Stein wrote: In no way did I say it was comparably simple to standard Wiki editing. Of course not... jeez, just how small do you think my brain is? :-) Well my brain got a lot smaller after I cut my hair, so bear that in

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Ben Hyde
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:15 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 06:08:25PM -0500, Ben Hyde wrote: ... Greg Stein wrote: In no way did I say it was comparably simple to standard Wiki editing. Of course not... jeez, just how small do you think my brain is? :-) Well my brain got a

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Steven Noels
Giacomo Pati wrote: We use JSPWiki in our company together with the Hula server (can't remember the URL but Google will know it) which checks a Wikipage (NotificationList in our case) that users can put their address and notification time into it and get a mail with the diffs of the last 24 hours