Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-21 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:02:35 -0400 (Subject: Re: Inappropriate use of announce@) Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tetsuya has a lot of energy, and i think we are seeing the common decay into inertia and conservatism common to groups as they grow and age. imho, we should work

Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-21 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:02:35 -0400 (Subject: Re: Inappropriate use of announce@) Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tetsuya has a lot of energy, and i think we are seeing the common decay into inertia and conservatism common to groups as they grow and age.

Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-21 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Tuesday, Oct 21, 2003, at 07:03 Europe/Rome, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 08:02:35 -0400 (Subject: Re: Inappropriate use of announce@) Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tetsuya has a lot of energy, and i think we are seeing the common

Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-21 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
I don't want to drag this along forever, but I feel I need to be precise because I don't want email communication to make it drier than it is. On Tuesday, Oct 21, 2003, at 09:07 Europe/Rome, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:52:16 +0200 Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-21 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
I won't. Life is not fair. I have several customers there (Hofheim), so I know about this. Solution: Move. E.g. my last house move and the location of my office were purely based on the number of carriers able to offer me bandwith there. I live in this century, I want to interact with its

Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-21 Thread André Malo
I know, I shouldn't post this... * Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Life is not fair. [..] If you voluntarily chose to stay in a location where you can't get what ^^^ How did you get that impression? you need to keep up, you can't expect others to scale down

Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-21 Thread Phil Steitz
Craig R. McClanahan wrote: snip/ Your comment about bureacracy is interesting. For the first time in my life, I've spent the last three+ years working for a big company (Sun), after working for organizations with 500 employees previously in my career. Apache's bureaucracy doesn't hold a

Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-21 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Phil Steitz wrote: Craig R. McClanahan wrote: snip/ ... I don't think that effective decision-making in a large organization *requires* bureacracy. You're right. It requires responsibility. It's possible that an entity is responsible of something without having bureacracy in place. In Apache

RE: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-21 Thread Sander Striker
From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:59 AM I don't think David and Sander did such a bad thing, they expressed their opinion, but I disliked the way they did and I wanted to apologize for the feeling you got out of this. You felt sad but