Re: Something like a Wiki

2006-12-15 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 12/14/06 5:00 PM, Alessandro Iurlano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/3/06, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, We talked it over internally for quite some time now, and finally decided that we want to wait until we have hardware to sell to launch our Wiki. We just don't have

Re: Text entry

2006-12-15 Thread Ben F-W
Ben wrote: Of course, the advantage of OpenMoko is that we wouldn't have to choose :-) I think I'd phrase it a bit differently: the advantage to me of OpenMoko is that we *get* to choose, rather than the manufacturer choosing for us! To drag the conversation back to text input briefly

RE: yet another fantasy idea: nextel-like walkie talkie feature?

2006-12-15 Thread David Schlesinger
Push-to-talk, at least the version currently marketed by Sprint/Nextel on cellphones, is based on Motorola's proprietary iDEN network; I don't know that there's a great deal of information available on using iDEN, plus it'd require a dedicated additional network stack beyond GSM...

Re: Something like a Wiki

2006-12-15 Thread Tomasz Zielinski
2006/12/15, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Would it be possible to update the screenshots in the press page, since the ones there have a totally bogus fontsize, even for my relatively young eyes. And some sort of leaked device photos - if you are going to ship product in a month, you surely

Re: Something like a Wiki

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/14/06, Alessandro Iurlano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just thinking about the lack of a wiki at the actual moment and the waste of thoughts and energy that will go lost because nobody will probably look at all the archived mails in the list again. On the other hand, the list as it is

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-15 Thread Ben
On 12/10/06, Stefan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. On Sat, 2006-12-09 at 14:00, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: Personally I say add the hardware, even if it needs a binary driver (or even just firmware). The religious group is then free to remove the driver and not use WiFi ;) This

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-15 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oleg Gusev schreef: I think any reasonable person understands that wifi/BT was left out Bluetooth left out? That's not what I heard. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin)

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/15/06, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oleg Gusev schreef: I think any reasonable person understands that wifi/BT was left out Bluetooth left out? That's not what I heard. Really!? Cool! Where did you not hear it? Richard

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-15 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Franks schreef: On 12/15/06, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oleg Gusev schreef: I think any reasonable person understands that wifi/BT was left out Bluetooth left out? That's not what

Idea: If someone called alert me when I get back

2006-12-15 Thread Ole Tange
Assume the phone is left unattended. Someone calls and the phone rings, but no one picks it up. Later I return and I do not see the missed call. It should alert when it becomes aware that someone is nearby. It should use its sensors to determine if someone is nearby: A change in the background

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/15/06, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This mailinglist and #openmoko, but I was protesting against presenting things as actual facts, when things aren't sure. Dragging this back on-topic, you bring up an interesting example. Creating an ethic such as information should be free, and

Re: Karl Good is out of the office

2006-12-15 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be out of the office starting 15/12/2006 and will not return until 08/01/2007. As much as I appreciate Symbian guys lurking on OpenMoko, you really should know that you are supposed to either unsubscribe or temporarily set message delivery on hold if you are out

Re: Idea: datatransmission using ultrasound

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Franks
On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 16:08 +, Ole Tange wrote: Apparently the Neo may be capable of transmitting ultrasound (20 KHz - around 45 KHz). If the Neo is also capable of receiving this (using the microphone) then we should be able to transmit data that way. This may be useful for close range

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-15 Thread michael
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Richard Franks wrote: On 12/15/06, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oleg Gusev schreef: I think any reasonable person understands that wifi/BT was left out Bluetooth left out? That's not what I heard. Really!?

Re: GPLv3 and Mobile Phones

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For dessert I'd like the apple pie with no whipped cream I'm sorry sir, we're all out of whipped cream Very well. I'll have it without ice cream [ Error whilst processing directive: 000816 ]

some more ideas with sound and LF/VLF Re: Idea: datatransmission using ultrasound

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ole! On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Ole Tange wrote: Apparently the Neo may be capable of transmitting ultrasound (20 KHz - around 45 KHz). If the Neo is also capable of receiving this (using the microphone) then we should be able to transmit data that way. This may be useful for close range

is there an open DSP on the market? Re: some more ideas with sound and LF/VLF Re: Idea: datatransmission using ultrasound

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Michel
Salve *! Robert Michel schrieb am Freitag, den 15. Dezember 2006 um 19:03h: -- guitare sound effecet - plug your Neo1973 between your Guitar/ebass and your amp (ohh they are normaly used as pedal - so the Neo must be stable or USB pedal is used ha! use sound commands for

Columnist needs a check up from the neck up

2006-12-15 Thread Sam Kome
Trying to write off Linux on mobile devices, doesn't seem to be aware of the Neo project: http://www.newlc.com/The-cloudy-future-of-mobile-Linux.html Thought I'd bring it to y'all's attention in case anyone would like to clue him in. Sam Kome http://www.motricity.com/ UX Team Member

emergency call - fallback to call without SIM Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Robert Michel schrieb am Freitag, den 15. Dezember 2006 um 19:45h: Did I alread mentioned the idea to have a capacitor parallel to the battery? So the Neo1973 cold call the police even without battery and the simcard and transmitt the coordinates of the phone. Without SIM card is the

Film Rain Man Re: some more ideas with sound and LF/VLF Re: Idea: datatransmission using ultrasound

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Robert Michel schrieb am Freitag, den 15. Dezember 2006 um 19:03h: Some more ideas about sound, not fully worked out: [...] I was shopping and heard the noice of coins http://www.baudline.com/mystery_signal/index.html http://www.speech.kth.se/snack/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainman

Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-15 Thread Tomasz Zielinski
2006/12/15, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. You could use a phone of a friend to send a SMS with a onetime code. The very first thing thief do is remove and throw away your SIM card. So you can forget about contacting your phone, if you not set crontab task with sending silent SMS with

Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-15 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomasz Zielinski schreef: 2006/12/15, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. You could use a phone of a friend to send a SMS with a onetime code. The very first thing thief do is remove and throw away your SIM card. So you can forget about

Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-15 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Tomasz! On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Tomasz Zielinski wrote: 2006/12/15, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. You could use a phone of a friend to send a SMS with a onetime code. The very first thing thief do is remove and throw away your SIM card. This thread is also about lost phones - so

Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Franks
On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 21:00 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: A phone that sends an sms to itself every week, how is that going to stop a thief that has my phone + simcard? Hmm. You are absolutely correct - security through obscurity + sneaky tricks aren't going to work medium-long term. Imagine you

Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-15 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 15 grudnia 2006 21:00, Koen Kooi napisał: A phone that sends an sms to itself every week, how is that going to stop a thief that has my phone + simcard? You have only one cellphone? :D -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant If you're going down in

Re: emergency call - fallback to call without SIM Re: capacitor to call the police without battery and SIM card *g* Re: Fun with Stolen/Lost Phones..

2006-12-15 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Friday 15 December 2006 20:23, Robert Michel wrote: Without SIM card is the keyword. There are people got into trouble, especialy in the mountains and they didn't made an emergency call because their GSM network was not strong enough. Only a few GSM user does know that then it help to

Idea: Optimal noisy vibrator

2006-12-15 Thread Ole Tange
When the phone is lying on a table it may be interesting to get the most noise from the vibrator as possible. By changing the frequency of the vibrator and analysing the sound level on the microphone the phone can determine with frequency is most noisy for vibrating on this surface. /Ole

Re: Idea: Optimal noisy vibrator

2006-12-15 Thread Shawn Rutledge
The intention of a vibrator is to silently alert you when the phone is in your pocket. I think the sound of vibration on a table is an awful horrible sound, and often results in the phone vibrating itself off the table too. On 12/15/06, Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the phone is