Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-25 Thread Don Walker
High quality headsets designed for listening to music on cell phones are already available with 4-pole 2.5mm jacks.  Take a look at Sennheiser (what I use).  I'm sure there are others. http://www.sennheisercommunications.com/comm/icm_eng.nsf/root/products_mobile_mobile_music Don Wolfgang S.

Re: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread Jesse Ross
I do believe there are open source apps to create flash files, however, I'm no expert on the subject and am too lazy to hunt for links right now :p maybe someone who's had experience on this side of things could say something on their quality. I _am_ a Flash designer/developer, and there are

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-25 Thread Jim Thompson
Duncan Hudson wrote: Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Finally, we've already begun moving production into one of our factories in mainland China. There are two runs scheduled now: May 10th and May 20th. We're going to take those runs a bit slow just to make sure the quality is high. And then starting in J

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-25 Thread Duncan Hudson
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Finally, we've already begun moving production into one of our factories in mainland China. There are two runs scheduled now: May 10th and May 20th. We're going to take those runs a bit slow just to make sure the quality is high. And then starting in June, things can run fu

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-25 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
t3st3r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I will have headache with buying 2.5 to 3.5 mm jack converter since > handsets with 2.5 mm jack are pretty low-quality and only suitable > for calls ... Agreed. Etymotic (http://www.etymotic.com/) makes a great set of very high fidelity headsets, but the ster

Re: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread Oleg Gusev
Am Mittwoch, 25. April 2007 16:42 schrieb Dean Collins: > > You can rant an > rave all you want but at the end of the day functionality is more > important than all open source. > Well, then why don't you get yourself a wince phone ? There is nothing groundbreaking or clandestine about the closed-

Re: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 17:04:19 Dmitri Hrapof wrote: > > but at the end of the day functionality is more important than all > > open source. > No it's not; why am I waiting for this device instead of buying Windows > one? > Well Windows Mobile is not functional in my view. Phones that crash ver

Fwd: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread J F
-- Forwarded message -- From: J F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Apr 24, 2007 11:03 PM Subject: Re: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject? To: t3st3r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 24/4/07 8:23 pm, "t3st3r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Florent THIERY wrote: Disclaimer: in no way I'm any o

Re: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread Dmitri Hrapof
Dean Collins пишет: but at the end of the day functionality is more important than all open source. No it's not; why am I waiting for this device instead of buying Windows one? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread Steven **
Dean, I've seen you post here before, so I know you've followed the list for a while. I'm surprised you think that some special functionality is more important than the open aspect. Didn't you witness the process for a WiFi chip? There were dozens of closed chips FIC could've chosen, but they

Re: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 15:23, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Florent THIERY writes: > >> If you're about Macromedia Flash (er, now Adobe), isn't it closed > >> source? > > > >The neo has a closed source real time OS running the GSM part... > > OS? It's been said pretty consistently that it's a user-mod

Re: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 25 kwietnia 2007, Joe Pfeiffer napisał: > >The neo has a closed source real time OS running the GSM part... > > OS?  It's been said pretty consistently that it's a user-mode daemon. > Still one more piece of closed source software than I like to see, but > not an OS. Closed source daem

RE: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Dean Collins writes: >I think Florent's point is that your argument is moot; You can rant an >rave all you want but at the end of the day functionality is more >important than all open source. It's too early in the morning for me... for some reason when I saw GSM I read GPS, and my comment about

Re: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread Mikko J Rauhala
On ke, 2007-04-25 at 08:23 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Florent THIERY writes: > >> If you're about Macromedia Flash (er, now Adobe), isn't it closed > >> source? > > > >The neo has a closed source real time OS running the GSM part... > > OS? It's been said pretty consistently that it's a user-mo

RE: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread Dean Collins
I think Florent's point is that your argument is moot; You can rant an rave all you want but at the end of the day functionality is more important than all open source. Likewise there are going to be commercial applications developed on this handset as it's not fairy land open source world but a c

Re: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Florent THIERY writes: >> If you're about Macromedia Flash (er, now Adobe), isn't it closed >> source? > >The neo has a closed source real time OS running the GSM part... OS? It's been said pretty consistently that it's a user-mode daemon. Still one more piece of closed source software than I lik

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-25 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 11:21:05 t3st3r wrote: > These adapters are popular up to some degree due to some portable > devices using 2.5 mm jacks, but still this adds some headache with > finding such adapter.That's not fair, at least for me. You mean like the trouble of going to ebay and order o

Re: Audio Jack 2.5 mm

2007-04-25 Thread t3st3r
Vladimi'r Lapa'c(ek wrote: Interesting thing to consider is how many people would like to use the headset and how many would it use for playing music. Wired connection usually preferred by those who listens to music.Others are often using bluetooth since it is more convenient (no wires).Usually

Re: Widgets: Openmoko/Chumby transproject?

2007-04-25 Thread Florent THIERY
If you're about Macromedia Flash (er, now Adobe), isn't it closed source? The neo has a closed source real time OS running the GSM part... As for flash, you do have tools : see http://osflash.org/projects Of course you won't have heavy Flash 9 with supercowpowers, but it's way enough for widget

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-25 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11000 March 1977, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > We owe you all an update as to our status. Here it goes... Great news, thanks. -- bye Joerg <_DeadBull_> ohne speicher, tastatur, mouse, pladde, monitor, also nur die Hardware... ___ OpenMoko com

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-25 Thread Clayton Jones
Please ignore the GPS comment in my last post! I just looked at the Wiki and read the entry about the GPS Hammerhead chip! RTFM or in this case, RTFW On 4/25/07, Clayton Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you so much for the update! I was frantically searching for HW since i heard

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-25 Thread Clayton Jones
Thank you so much for the update! I was frantically searching for HW since i heard it would be available in March and thought i was missing out. Glad to know i didn't miss the boat! This is also my first post to the list - i've been reading as many as i can since joining about a week ago. Also hop