Free Linux distro targets smartphones

2007-08-03 Thread Krzysztof Kajkowski
OpenedHand is offering pre-built Poky 3.0 kernels, modules, and root filesystem images for a several popular development targets, including: Nokia N800 web tablet (experimental) OpenMoko GTA01 (FIC-GTA01) (experimental) Sharp Zaurus c7x0 (C700, C750, C760, C860, SL-7500) Sharp Zaurus Akita

New webbrowser - OWB

2007-08-03 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Seems that there is again a new competitor in the browser section, called Origyn Web Browser (OWB) It's opensource (BSD/LGPL), developed for embedded devices and based on WebKit. http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5894497943.html Feel free to tell us your experiences. :)

Re: Import Duty - I have refused my delivery.

2007-08-03 Thread Karsten Ensinger
The amount seems to be VAT. According to EU (EC) rules, VAT has to be paid at the point of crossing the EU border for goods meant for selling to customers. For calculating the taxed value, the cost of shipment to the border is INCLUDED. If shipment from the border to the destination within EU

Re: New looker where to start?

2007-08-03 Thread Ian Darwin
Tim Milliken wrote: I am looking into joining in on this project. Welcome aboard! Welcome aboard! I am a windows programmer and know almost nothing about Linux. Where should I start? Can anyone give me some starting points on getting started. Like do I have to be running Linux as a host

OpenMoko Viral Marketing in the South Pacific

2007-08-03 Thread Tim Knapp
Hello, Just a quick note that the Neo1973 seems to have started its viral marketing campaign in the South Pacific - i.e. in NZ's largest national newspaper[1]. The article is a bit misleading, though, as it refers to the Neo in an image but is actually discussing the 'GooglePhone' - oh well c'est

What a heavy lunch-box!

2007-08-03 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, Photos are here: http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/openmoko/images/package/ * The packaging was kinda neat. I didn't expect so much of foam in it. * That is one heavy lunch-box, even without anything in it! It is quite big for a lunch-box too, atleast for me. I can pack breakfast, lunch and

Re: Import Duty - I have refused my delivery.

2007-08-03 Thread Peter Trapp
On Friday 03 August 2007 14:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas: Importation of computer devices and peripherals to the EU is indeed both VAT and import duty exempt - it appears that the description of the goods, compounded with the value statement, has led to this issue. It is indeed

New looker where to start?

2007-08-03 Thread Tim Milliken
I am looking into joining in on this project. I am a windows programmer and know almost nothing about Linux. Where should I start? Can anyone give me some starting points on getting started. Like do I have to be running Linux as a host development OS? I am really lost but very interested in this.

Language spacenames in wiki

2007-08-03 Thread Rafa Couto
I propose new wiki namespaces to save the localized pages: * lang:es to Spanish translations * lang:de to German translations etc... This, take sense when moving to translate the page titles, to avoid ambiguous wiki titles... -- Rafa Couto (caligari) mailto:rafacouto @gmail.com Linux user

2007.2 - questions

2007-08-03 Thread Krzysztof Kajkowski
Hi! I read OM lists daily but I still have some basic questions about 2007.2. Could someone explain: - what is 2007.2 code? - can I install it on my GTA01v4? How? - can I use this with MokoMakefile? - when do you plan to make it ready for testing? best regards Krzysztof Kajkowski

Re: Free Linux distro targets smartphones

2007-08-03 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia piątek, 3 sierpnia 2007, Krzysztof Kajkowski napisał: OpenedHand is offering pre-built Poky 3.0 kernels, modules, and root filesystem images for a several popular development targets, including: Nokia N800 web tablet (experimental) OpenMoko GTA01 (FIC-GTA01) (experimental) Hmm, anyone

Re: New looker where to start?

2007-08-03 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Well, then we have luck that you do not define what open source is :) There's a official definition of open source: http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd Thanks to all guys in the whole open source scene. 2007/8/3, wim delvaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 03 August 2007 17:14:36 Ian Darwin wrote:

What a heavy lunch-box!

2007-08-03 Thread John Kosta
Photos are here: http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/openmoko/images/package/ Thanks for the great photos! I am lurking on the list and participating vicariously. The photos help make it seem more real. I'd love to see some in-action shots if ever possible from anyone who gets their phone

Re: New looker where to start?

2007-08-03 Thread John Locke
Not to belabor the point, but I disagree: wim delvaux wrote: well for me 'open source' does not mean GPL. 'Open source' for me means the source is available to you and you can modify it but it does not give you the right to do what you want with it. GPL that is another story. It allows

Re: Import Duty - I have refused my delivery.

2007-08-03 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Well, you chose to live in the wrong country (or the wrong continent). You should know what expects you if YOU IMPORT a device. This is not the fault of OpenMoko (Inc.). Also there is no duty on computing devices and mobile phones in the EU - so I guess you are wrong. GBP60 sounds like VAT (15.5%

Re: Free Linux distro targets smartphones

2007-08-03 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
I guess it wont. It doesnt even have drivers for bluetooth yet. Howevern, I'd be interested in a short comment if someone tested it. 2007/8/3, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6869195570.html Hmm, anyone

Re: What a heavy lunch-box!

2007-08-03 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Even without the launchbox (only have basic) I can agree. In my company we have the launchbox in big, its about 15kg :) 2007/8/3, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Photos are here: http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/openmoko/images/package/ * The packaging was kinda neat. I didn't expect

Re: What a heavy lunch-box!

2007-08-03 Thread Sudharshan S
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 17:36 +0200, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, Photos are here: http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/openmoko/images/package/ I bet you took high res photos of the neo on purpose...Show off! Regards Sudharshan S ___ OpenMoko community

uBoot updates/possible issues

2007-08-03 Thread Kyle Bassett
I flashed my Neo to this revision: http://chooseopen.com/openmoko/build/u-boot-gta01bv4-r11_e80955f07de03fef0196353e77534b2300193c1c_0_2348.bin Some things I have noticed: a- I no longer have to hold the power button down for 3 secs. to start the bootloader. I yet to check the release notes to

Re: Import Duty - I have refused my delivery.

2007-08-03 Thread Giles Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : This should either be factored into the shipping charge or, as these devices are technically 'computer peripherals', described as 'computer peripherals' in order that they do not attract import duty. IIRC the UK law changed in late 2006, computer equipment is liable

Free seat in embedded Linux training session for contributor

2007-08-03 Thread Michael Opdenacker
Hello, Something that can interest contributors to the OpenMoko project... I'll be delighted if one of you win. My company has decided to offer a free seat to one deserving community contributor in our next public embedded Linux training session, which will happen in Vence, near Nice, France, on

Re: Import Duty - I have refused my delivery.

2007-08-03 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 03.08.2007 um 08:20 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually, speaking as someone who imports electronic components and peripherals for prototype systems from the US all the time, I do know what to expect when I import. Importation of computer devices and peripherals to the EU is indeed

size comparison Neo1973 and Nokia 9300

2007-08-03 Thread Karsten Ensinger
Maybe someone is interested. A side by side picture of the Neo1973 and a Nokia Communicator 9300. http://www.album.de/bild/482861/img-0566.cfm Regards Karsten ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: What a heavy lunch-box!

2007-08-03 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
If you want some high res pics (but not that good quality) you can take a look here: http://gstaedtner.net/bilder/neo1973/ Feel free to do with the photos what you want :) 2007/8/3, Sudharshan S [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 17:36 +0200, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, Photos are

interesting red flag ui

2007-08-03 Thread Brad Midgley
Hey Red flag is showing off some very inviting touch menus. The page demonstrates them on an asus r2h which also has a gps. http://apcmag.com/5896/gallery_intels_new_mobile_internet_device_with_red_flag_linux it is intriguing but does bring up some questions... can neo pull off a touch

Re: interesting red flag ui

2007-08-03 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Yet another poor iPhone-lookalike. *gape* Sorry, but can't see the clones and the original anymore. Concerning your question: rotating the screen is no problem at all since the OM kdrive has xrandr support (xrandr -o 1), but imho the screen is still physically too small to allow writing with your

Re: What a heavy lunch-box!

2007-08-03 Thread Patrick Beck
Am Freitag, den 03.08.2007, 19:49 +0200 schrieb Thomas Gstädtner: If you want some high res pics (but not that good quality) you can take a look here: http://gstaedtner.net/bilder/neo1973/ Feel free to do with the photos what you want :) Very cool pictures :D Can you say me which musicplayer

Re: What a heavy lunch-box!

2007-08-03 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
The player is emphasis, based on Etk (EFL) and it's a mpd client. But it's running via X remote on the neo, not native. But shouldn't be a problem native, too. The same for all other apps, I only tested how they would look, they are NOT running on the device. Just for info :) And of course you can

Re: interesting red flag ui

2007-08-03 Thread Brad Midgley
Thomas Yet another poor iPhone-lookalike. *gape* Sorry, but can't see the clones and the original anymore. If someone has put together a decent scheme for a UI with only a touchscreen, it should serve as inspiration, not repulsion. (Multitouch is irrelevant here--we can have an excellent,

Re: 2007.2 - questions

2007-08-03 Thread Ian Darwin
PS - That reminds me... am I the only one who thinks you should be able to select power off from the battery status icon? Or the end of main menu, by analogy with File-Quit (or Close). Either way, it should be clear. ___ OpenMoko community mailing

Re: 2007.2 - questions

2007-08-03 Thread Giles Jones
On 4 Aug 2007, at 00:31, Andy Poling wrote: .1), and I like the fact that the main buttons are larger and easier to use. I can't find a way to power off under .2 though. :-) init 0 :P ___ OpenMoko community mailing list