Re: Gphone isn't open, linux dev not possible

2007-11-17 Thread Dietz Proepper
hank williams: On Nov 14, 2007 2:55 PM, William Voorhees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't say I'm not concerned, but I'm hopeful. In one of the video's Sergy Brin says that it will be entirely open. I hope that google's Do No Evil slogan takes hold. -Will I do hope and expect

Re: Neo1973/OpenMoko as a laptop replacement

2007-11-17 Thread Jay Vaughan
I really like your idea. I also think that GTA02 will have enough power for a small notebook-replacement for a bit hacking, writing or something like this. Up until my catastrophic u-boot and debug board failure (grr..) I had been using my GTA01 for the last couple of weeks just fine as a

Re: Neo1973/OpenMoko as a laptop replacement

2007-11-17 Thread Andy Powell
On Saturday 17 November 2007 09:11, Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik wrote: On 09:56:25 2007-11-17 Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really like your idea. I also think that GTA02 will have enough power for a small notebook-replacement for a bit hacking, writing or something like this.

Re: Gphone isn't open, linux dev not possible

2007-11-17 Thread Jay Vaughan
I do hope and expect android to be open. That said, lets be clear not open != evil. You got that backwards, buddy. Not open - evil holds to a much larger extent than the inversion (for you information, that would be open - not evil). You know whats even more evil than open or not

Re: Gphone isn't open, linux dev not possible

2007-11-17 Thread Andy Powell
On Friday 16 November 2007 12:29, hank williams wrote: On Nov 14, 2007 2:55 PM, William Voorhees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't say I'm not concerned, but I'm hopeful. In one of the video's Sergy Brin says that it will be entirely open. I hope that google's Do No Evil slogan takes

Re: Neo1973/OpenMoko as a laptop replacement

2007-11-17 Thread Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
On 09:56:25 2007-11-17 Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really like your idea. I also think that GTA02 will have enough power for a small notebook-replacement for a bit hacking, writing or something like this. Here's my 0.02 euro-cents... Why not a laptop chassis with a tft

Re: Neo1973/OpenMoko as a laptop replacement

2007-11-17 Thread Jay Vaughan
Why not a laptop chassis with a tft in and an extra battery pack integrated and keyboard(combo usb/bt/wireless)(hell even a mouse of some sorts) and then just have a plugin slot for the neo to hook in(of course this would require a bit of hardware addon to the neo(a vga/dvi/other) port

Re: Gphone isn't open, linux dev not possible

2007-11-17 Thread hank williams
On Nov 17, 2007 3:04 AM, Dietz Proepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hank williams: On Nov 14, 2007 2:55 PM, William Voorhees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't say I'm not concerned, but I'm hopeful. In one of the video's Sergy Brin says that it will be entirely open. I hope that

Re: Neo1973/OpenMoko as a laptop replacement

2007-11-17 Thread Ted Lemon
On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 10:11 +0100, Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik wrote: Why not a laptop chassis The laptop form factor forces poor ergonomics. I always bring a keyboard with me when I travel so that I can have the screen up high and the keyboard down low. So for me the built-in keyboard is just

Re: Neo1973/OpenMoko as a laptop replacement

2007-11-17 Thread Ted Lemon
On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 09:29 +, Andy Powell wrote: If I can manage to push aside the feeling that people should just buy something like the Asus EEE PC rather than going this route... No bluetooth. No DVI out. Doesn't fit in your pocket, unless you have a really big pocket.

Re: Neo1973/OpenMoko as a laptop replacement

2007-11-17 Thread Michael Shiloh
I'd like to explore adding a head mounted display to the Neo, like the i-glasses PC/SVGA Head Mounted Display at about $700. Would require an off-board SVGA controller, which could be prototyped with a USB SVGA controller, assuming Linux drivers can be found. Thoughts?

Re: Neo1973/OpenMoko as a laptop replacement

2007-11-17 Thread Ted Lemon
On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 11:19 -0800, Michael Shiloh wrote: I'd like to explore adding a head mounted display to the Neo, like the i-glasses PC/SVGA Head Mounted Display at about $700. Would require an off-board SVGA controller, which could be prototyped with a USB SVGA controller, assuming

Re: Neo1973/OpenMoko as a laptop replacement

2007-11-17 Thread Joshua Layne
Ted Lemon wrote: On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 11:19 -0800, Michael Shiloh wrote: I'd like to explore adding a head mounted display to the Neo, like the i-glasses PC/SVGA Head Mounted Display at about $700. Would require an off-board SVGA controller, which could be prototyped with a USB SVGA