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On 1/16/08, andy selby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 16/01/2008, Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me.
Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ?
I haven't flashed an openmoko image in a while so I'm
On 1/17/08, Barry Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Folks,
I've flashed the rootfs and a new kernel.
So then I got all excited and inserted my SIM into it and powered up.
Turns out I should have read some more. My current phone (Nokia N80 -
can I run openmoko on that?), is a 3G phone and
You can also try this:
mount the qtopia image, insert this into /etc/init.d/qpe on line 64:
alsactl -f /etc/gsmhandset.state restore
Save the image to a jffs2 file and re-flash the device.
I've no idea how this differs from the instructions you had earlier, but I
don't think it hurts either.
On Jan 16, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Michael Shiloh wrote:
Good question, Jeffrey, and you suggest a question that I'd like to
ask you, the community:
Why do you chose to develop on OpenMoko, rather than on Android? Or
do you do both?
OpenMoko got there first, and with working hardware too ..
Flexibility - I know people developing apps on their Neo in Scheme,
Erlang you name it!
Timing - Already I am able to physically take my Neo out and test my
application with both GPS and GPRS running (within the power
management limitations).
John.
On 16/01/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL
On the topic of events is anyone from OpenMoko or the community going
to the next Mobile Monday in London? The topic is Mobile Operating
Systems:
[snip]
...
Helping us understand the landscape, where things are going and how to make
sense of it all will be speakers from Symbian, Microsoft and
On 1/16/08, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good question, Jeffrey, and you suggest a question that I'd like to ask
you, the community:
Why do you chose to develop on OpenMoko, rather than on Android? Or do
you do both?
(Beside the lack of Android hardware)
Michael
I could butter
On Jan 17, 2008, at 11:08 AM, john wrote:
On the topic of events ...
I was wondering if anyone in this community would like to have
regular meetings here in Vienna, Austria, to discuss OpenMoko stuff?
We could do it weekly at MetaLab: http://metalab.at
Any interest?
;
--
Jay
On 1/17/08, Mikael Lammentausta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/1/16, 左 国坤 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi, Lorn,
I have tried
alsactl -f /etc/alsa/capturehandset.state restore
but no any improvement.
can you please tell me when you release your improved snapshot?
Regards.
George
So the questions remain: What features make you choose one over the other?
And in particular, regarding Lorn's point below, how do you feel about
the different APIs?
I am a lurker in the Openmoko world at the moment. I am not a hardware person
and my ideas for applications involve a
Hi Zeth,
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 11:08 +, Zeth Green wrote:
So the questions remain: What features make you choose one over the other?
And in particular, regarding Lorn's point below, how do you feel about
the different APIs?
I am a lurker in the Openmoko world at the moment. I am not
For myself I like scripting languages, Python being my favourite,
and I am
hoping the OpenMoko will either come with some kind of scripting
language or
let me get one via the package manager. (I'm sure you guys have a
plan for
this - as I said I am just a lurker so do not know all the
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Lorn Potter writes:
andy selby wrote:
u, better programming API?
No, openmoko uses GTK.
Yes, the current incarnation. There are various interest groups
working on different and higher level APIs. I'm very confident that we
can distill the best framework out of all
This is what I've currently got on my OM:
i would dearly love to have pyglet, personally ..
;
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Subject: Re[2]: New to OpenMoko
Date: Thu 17 Jan 08 01:11:13PM +0100
Quoting Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
No, openmoko uses GTK.
Yes, the current incarnation. There are various interest groups
working on different and higher level APIs. I'm very confident
Jeremiah -
thanks for the detailed information, it is indeed very helpful.
The file format is the last open question. We have been looking into
it the whole day.
We are concerned that we release a file that will not be really useful
for the purpose we are trying to achieve - allow for custom
/me is another QWERTY fan.
I recently had to replace my dead Treo 650 with another QWERTY
solution. I bought a cheap smart phone running Windows Mobile. I am
now in league with the devil :)
IMO I think there is a market for low-cost QWERTY smart phones. I
think something like the Sidekick Slide
Carlo E. Prelz wrote:
Subject: Re[2]: New to OpenMoko
Date: Thu 17 Jan 08 01:11:13PM +0100
Quoting Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
No, openmoko uses GTK.
Yes, the current incarnation. There are various interest groups
working on different and higher level
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 02:03:01PM +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Well, first, it will be less of a decision, but rather something like survival
of the fittest. Second, compiled languages are fine for performance
critical stuff. Coding application logic in a scripting language makes
much
I did not follow the whole discussion but today i've read about a CAD
Software which is free for personal use and i think it is able to
read/import? Pro-E files:
http://www.medusa4.com/index.php?screen=1.3ziel=Products-MEDUSAland=co
m maybe someone knows more details?
Best regards
Mario
SVHMPC is more about encouraging and supporting people to do their
own thing, rather than one single platform. A support network for
different projects, to exchange ideas, share information, and
encourage innovation.
It's a heck of a lot of fun to sit around and talk with a bunch of
bright
Thanks to Mario for the link. I'll have to try MEDUSA in the next few
days. From the documentation, it looks like it may be like BRLCAD and
require a copy of ProE for the coversion (hopefully not), but we'll have
to wait see unless someone already knows for sure.
I'm glad to see a decision
Zeth Green wrote:
Back to the topic, I am interested in OpenMoko for two reasons. Firstly, and
most importantly, as has been previously expressed, the current Android
platform proposals and similar Linux phones such as motorola's own Linux
platform are thoroughly uninteresting to me so far,
Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote:
Wolgang, someone made a wiki entry at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_case_schematics, so this would
likely be a good place to place the Pro-E schematics for the Neo1973.
I am preparing the right place to put the files. I have a question:
case
On 18/01/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am preparing the right place to put the files. I have a question:
case schematics is the wrong name. What is the right name? CAD
Files? ID CAD Files? CAD Drawings? Someone in the field help me out
here.
they are CAD files yes, but the
Thanks Clare,
You are absolutely right, and we've known it. We need to make this more
visible. It's just been a matter of resources and priorities.
We will get to this very shortly..
Michael
clare wrote:
Hi Michael,
THis is a very interesting site. It is *very* disappointing that it has
Jay,
(I encourage everyone to change subject lines as necessary to reflect a
shift in the topic)
That's a great idea, and I hope it takes off. Hopefully someone from
OpenMoko can visit at some point. In the future, we'd like to support
these sort of meetings in some way.
Michael
Jay
Hi, Nick
tks for your advice.
how can i kill the gsm function in software level?
if using openmoko fw, the gsm can be turned down easily, but when using
Qtopia, it seems no menu to kill
gsm module or process. Maybe I have to do some configure before build Qtopia
source, if it is, how to do it?
Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Jan 15, 2008 5:45 PM, Tim Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone aware of any office apps being developed for openmoko. I'm not
so much concerned with editing as I am viewing. Are there any lightweight
office viewing apps that would be
Hi, Nick,
I have tried the method of
Hi, Nick,
I have tried Mikael suggested, no any improved.
- Original Message -
Subject: RE: NO VOICE WHEN USING VOIP IN QTOPIA
From: NICK GUENTHER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 033$B:8033(B 033$B9Q:%033(B [EMAIL PROTECTED],LIST FOR
OPENMOKO COMMUNITY
2008/1/17 左 国坤 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi, Nick
tks for your advice.
Oh! Oh no, don't be thankful. It was totally a guess. I ONE HUNDRED
PERCENT disclaim that I know about anything I'm talking about.
Try what Mikael suggested first and report back.
(btw you can edit qpe.sh onboard the neo, just
Lorn Potter wrote:
Zeth Green wrote:
Back to the topic, I am interested in OpenMoko for two reasons. Firstly, and
most importantly, as has been previously expressed, the current Android
platform proposals and similar Linux phones such as motorola's own Linux
platform are thoroughly
左 国坤 wrote:
Hi, Nick
tks for your advice.
how can i kill the gsm function in software level?
if using openmoko fw, the gsm can be turned down easily, but when using
Qtopia, it seems no menu to kill
gsm module or process. Maybe I have to do some configure before build Qtopia
source, if it
Hi, Lorn,
thank you for your suggestions.
I have switched to Aireplane mode after add alsactl -f /etc/gsmhandset
restore to /etc/init.d/qpe on Line 64.
and then restart device. But now no any call can be received and when do a
out call, a warning tell me
'You can't make a call at Airplane
Lorn Potter wrote:
左 国坤 wrote:
Hi, Nick
tks for your advice.
how can i kill the gsm function in software level?
if using openmoko fw, the gsm can be turned down easily, but when using
Qtopia, it seems no menu to kill
gsm module or process. Maybe I have to do some configure before build
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Dear Lorn,
tks for your reply.
Where can I DL your snapshot?
Sorry for my no more information about this.
Best Regards.
George
- Original Message -
Subject: RE: NO VOICE WHEN USING VOIP IN QTOPIA
From: LORN POTTER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LIST FOR OPENMOKO COMMUNITY DISCUSSION
regarding 3D model interchange file formats,
a friend who is expert tells me:
IGES and step files are the universal exchange formats
I can not promise, but... my friend has access to ProE.
It's conceivable I may be able to get his help
to convert native ProE to something else.
-
Ron K. Jeffries
左 国坤 wrote:
Hi, Lorn,
thank you for your suggestions.
I have switched to Aireplane mode after add alsactl -f /etc/gsmhandset
restore to /etc/init.d/qpe on Line 64.
and then restart device. But now no any call can be received and when do a
out call, a warning tell me
'You can't make a
左 国坤 wrote:
Dear Lorn,
tks for your reply.
Where can I DL your snapshot?
Sorry for my no more information about this.
Best Regards.
George
I am still working on voip, once I know it works for the Neo, I will put
a new snapshot up at qtopia.net, and will let you know.
--
Lorn
Hi, Lorn,
Looking forward to your snapshot release.
You shouldn't need to turn off the gsm/modem to make a voip call.
If there's a voip and gsm network active at the same time, Qtopia should
popup a dialog and ask the user which one to use (in the case of a
dialed number). as for a uri, it
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote:
Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry!
All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest from
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/
Good luck and let us know how it goes,
Hi Michael,
Another
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