Re: Wiki - confusion

2008-02-03 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
JW ha scritto: Hi Openmoko community The wiki needs to present clear information. There is one area where it is pretty bad at the moment and that is in all the confusing references to neo's and GTA01s and GTA02s. It seems to me there is now a clear structure 1) Neo1973 has internal codename

Re: Wiki - confusion

2008-02-03 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
JW - Should i just go ahead and change the core structure to being correct and the rest will follow?Is there someone overlooking wiki structure? Yes, I think you can move ahead with those changes. Let's see what others are saying... It seems to me there is now a clear structure 1)

Re: Wiki - confusion

2008-02-03 Thread Joachim Steiger
Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano wrote: JW ha scritto: Hi Openmoko community The wiki needs to present clear information. There is one area where it is pretty bad at the moment and that is in all the confusing references to neo's and GTA01s and GTA02s. It seems to me there is now a clear

Re: Wiki - confusion

2008-02-03 Thread Vincent
On 03/02/2008, JW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Openmoko community The wiki needs to present clear information. There is one area where it is pretty bad at the moment and that is in all the confusing references to neo's and GTA01s and GTA02s. It seems to me there is now a clear structure

Re: Wiki - confusion

2008-02-03 Thread Bogdan Bivolaru
Hello, Thank, you Joachim! That confirms what I knew! Joachim Steiger wrote: Neo1973 is a class of devices, not only one specific model. gta01 and gta02 are models. FreeRunner a synonym for gta02 release version Cheers, Bogdan ___ OpenMoko

Re: Wiki - confusion

2008-02-03 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
JW, Pietro, roh - OK, the confusion even exist within OpenMoko :-) So it's definitely something we need to find out soon. I think it's like JW said, roh thinks it's like Pietro said. Stay tuned, we will find out soon... Wolfgang On Feb 3, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Joachim Steiger wrote: Pietro m0nt0

Re: Wiki - confusion

2008-02-03 Thread JW
Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems to me there is now a clear structure 1) Neo1973 has internal codename (GTA01xxx) 2) Freerunner has internal codename (GTA02xxx) That is correct. Ok, but we wait to see if Piotr is right! I am glad I asked! We just hired a full

Re: Basic questions about openmoko

2008-02-03 Thread Audrius Meskauskas
ian chu wrote: Hello~ I have two simple questions about Openmoko develop. Is it correct to transfer our projects ( like GPS ) from PC to Openmoko by dfu ? and how? scp? If all you want is to download and install the file from the project repository, the cool solution may be to type wget on

Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-02-03 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 31 January 2008, Lally Singh wrote: On Jan 31, 2008 5:31 PM, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Do 31. Januar 2008 schrieb Shawn Rutledge: [...] My goal is to have applications written in arbitrary languages, running on app servers, using a terse UI meta-language *) to

Re: New wiki page - Problems of typical closed phones

2008-02-03 Thread Andy Powell
On Sunday 03 February 2008 19:55, JW wrote: Hi Openmoko community I created a new page to list the problems of typical closed phones with the intention of informing potential Openmoko phone buyers. Please add your examples to the 4 I included as a starting point. Feedback welcome! :-) JW

Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-02-03 Thread Adrian-Ken Rueegsegger
Hello, Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 31 January 2008, Lally Singh wrote: On Jan 31, 2008 5:31 PM, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Do 31. Januar 2008 schrieb Shawn Rutledge: [...] My goal is to have applications written in arbitrary languages, running on app servers, using a terse UI

Re: New wiki page - Problems of typical closed phones

2008-02-03 Thread Schmidt AndrĂ¡s
Sorry, I have updated that. AFAIK: Here (in Hungary) it is illegal to unlock your phone. Certainly you can buy unlocked phone for a higher price, but unlocking already locked ones (by experts) is illegal. There are many people earning their money from this illegal activity though...

Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-02-03 Thread Henrik Pihl
I would be interested :) 2008/2/3, Adrian-Ken Rueegsegger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 31 January 2008, Lally Singh wrote: On Jan 31, 2008 5:31 PM, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Do 31. Januar 2008 schrieb Shawn Rutledge: [...] My goal is to have

OWFS on $WRT-router

2008-02-03 Thread Chris
Hi, I tried this: http://owfs.sourceforge.net/WRT54G.html and it doesn't work for me. It looks really weird how the author connected the DS2480B, which runs at 5V directly to the UART, which provides only 3.3V. I think this would need some level-shifting. The datasheet also says the POL-Pin

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2008-02-03 Thread kero
Hi all, I wrote a little gsmd testing framework, with the hope it can be used to stabilize (lib)gsmd. You can find an initial release on: http://chmeee.dyndns.org/om/testing_gsmd.html NB: I cross-posted to three mailing lists to get exposure (everybody should be able to write tests, though

Re: OWFS on $WRT-router

2008-02-03 Thread Chris
Sorry, wrong mailinglist. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: New wiki page - Problems of typical

2008-02-03 Thread JW
Quite a few of the 'problems' you have pointed out are carrier issues not handset issues, ie it wont matter if you have a GTA01/02 or not. eg the use of voip software... Andy Andy If you look I specifically said VOIP over wifi. OpenMoko phones WILL allow this! JW PS I agree about

Re: New wiki page - Problems of typical

2008-02-03 Thread JW
David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you look I specifically said VOIP over wifi. OpenMoko phones WILL allow this! My unlocked Nokia E65 also allows this. As he said, it's a carrier issue, not a phone issue. Fair enough I stand corrected - I will remove this one Please add

RE: New wiki page - Problems of typical

2008-02-03 Thread David Schlesinger
If you look I specifically said VOIP over wifi. OpenMoko phones WILL allow this! My unlocked Nokia E65 also allows this. As he said, it's a carrier issue, not a phone issue. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-02-03 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 31, 2008 3:31 PM, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *) So it seems you're talking about X. Don't you? (Well terse is relative) something like X is rather low-level. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org