Need a Cellphone now...

2008-03-10 Thread Daniel Spies
Hi list! I wonder if it's possible to run Openmoko on other handhelds than the Neo/Freerunner. Actually I need a new phone ASAP. As I already mentioned I don't need the complete functionality immediately. Making and receiving calls would be enough... I already searched the web for some kind of

A bit of fun - freerunner and the wisdom of crowds

2008-03-10 Thread Michael Shiloh
A while back, Hans Loeblich asked how many GTA01s were made, and how quickly they sold. Here is the answer from Steve Mosher, our VP of marketing: We wanted to limit distribution to serious development engineers. The total build over the life of the product was less than 5000. By any measure

OpenMoko on the Navigo GPS?

2008-03-10 Thread Joseph Reeves
My previous fun and games have proven to me that the FreeRunner is going to be the ultimate GPS device: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-March/013855.html But I couldn't help think about the possibilities of running OpenMoko on something as cheap as this:

Re: OpenMoko on the Navigo GPS?

2008-03-10 Thread Nils Faerber
The idea of porting Linux and whatever GUI on top of it to non-Linux devices is as old as Linux for non-x86, i.e. around 10 and more years. And it is every time the same problem: No hardware specs of the device (i.e. schematics and chip documentation) it is either impossible or tremendously hard

Re: Need a Cellphone now...

2008-03-10 Thread thomasg
You probably don't want to hear it, but no chance to get a phone that supports your Must have + OpenMoko. As Freerunner doesn't have EDGE or UMTS there imho won't be a chance to get such a phone in 2008. On 3/10/08, Daniel Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list! I wonder if it's possible to

Re: Need a Cellphone now...

2008-03-10 Thread Ben Burdette
Why not get a bottom-of-the-line phone from T-Mobile or some other GSM carrier? It will have the making and receiving calls feature and then you can use the sim in the freerunner when it is available in a month or two. Daniel Spies wrote: Hi list! I wonder if it's possible to run Openmoko

Re: Need a Cellphone now...

2008-03-10 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
you can use the sim in the freerunner when it is available in a month or two. Is that really the case? I've not read anything about even an estimated timeline, and I am to the point where I am considering unsubscribing from the mailing list because there is no real information being

Neo1973 on eBay

2008-03-10 Thread ian douglas
Starting bid is $200. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120232014254 I'm including a 2GB microSD card instead of the 512MB that shipped with the phone, and also including a USB cable (I hate when cables aren't included!) More photos at http://iandouglas.com/neo1973/ Now

Re: Go Phone without the phone

2008-03-10 Thread Lowell Higley
You can buy a Go Phone SIM card ($25, I think) at any ATT store operated by corporate (resellers are generally useless in anything out of the norm.) On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Ajit Natarajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Is there a way to subscribe to ATT Go Phone in the U.S. without

Re: GSoC 2008: Call for ideas

2008-03-10 Thread Ilja O.
Hello. In my opinion, there are some highly usable project proposals in wish list, that could be done by student (like me, heh-heh-heh...) during summer. First things first: platform should provide more than one GUI binding solutions. In my opinion binding framework porting priority is

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-10 Thread Ivo Anjo
I think this is a very good observation. If you want to connect a neo to some usb device(s) for long periods of time it would be very important to be able to charge it (otherwise it will just run dry very fast). Anyone know if you can? Ivo On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Brad Midgley [EMAIL

Re: Need a Cellphone now...

2008-03-10 Thread Brendan Reid
On 10/03/2008, Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am to the point where I am considering unsubscribing from the mailing list because there is no real information being written about. Jeffrey I suggest you unsubscribe from the community mail list and subscribe instead to the announce

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-10 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: I think this is a very good observation. If you want to connect a neo to some usb device(s) for long periods of time it would be very important to be able to charge it (otherwise it will just run dry very

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-10 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: Somebody in the thread at some point said: I think this is a very good observation. If you want to connect a neo to some usb device(s) for long periods of time it would be very important to be able to

Qwerty keyboard concept

2008-03-10 Thread Schmidt András
Hi! I was thinking much about a qwerty keyboard that can be easily used on the small touch screen of OpenMoko with just your fingers. After some thinking I have come up with an idea. To proove my concept I have also implemented it. The implementation is Java+SWT so you will have to install

Re: Qwerty keyboard concept

2008-03-10 Thread andy selby
Sorry to burst your bubble but the Qtopia release has this already, I haven't executed the program but it seems to be the same as qtopia's behaviour where you hold your finger on an area of the keyboard and a little circle comes up with an enlarged view of the keyboard so you can precisley select

Re: Qwerty keyboard concept

2008-03-10 Thread Schmidt András
My bubble is off :-(. Yes it is the same. So Qtopia has it. It would be nice on OpenMoko too. andy selby wrote: Sorry to burst your bubble but the Qtopia release has this already, I haven't executed the program but it seems to be the same as qtopia's behaviour where you hold your finger on an

Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-10 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hello, As most of you know, there was a bug in earlier GSM firmware on Neo 1973 which prevented certain ATT 3G SIM cards from working in the Neo 1973. As most of you know, the upgraded GSM firmware that fixed this problem could only be installed by an employee of Openmoko. I peformed this

Re: Qwerty keyboard concept

2008-03-10 Thread Ivo Anjo
I think it's cool anyways. Since the code is pretty small it can be used as an example. Also, since OM doesn't use qtopia as default, it would be nice if we had a gtk version of qtopia's keyboard (if integration is not possible). Ivo On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Schmidt András [EMAIL

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-10 Thread Bobby Martin
Hey Michael, I use ATT as my service (since they bought out Cingular). I had an Cingular SIM (63689 G 4004) that wouldn't work. You upgraded my GSM firmware and it worked fine afterwards. (Thanks!) It still works now. Thanks, Bobby aka wurp2 Subject: Hello, As most of you know, there

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-10 Thread Jae Stutzman
Weird. I suppose this same SIM works in other phones (non neos)? Do you have another ATT sim to try? Does the SIM keep track of what phones it is inserted into? And if so, perhaps it's memory is full? I have not read the GSM spec in great detail, but perhaps it is plausible :) Maybe you sim is

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-10 Thread joerg
Am Di 11. März 2008 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Jae Stutzman wrote: Weird. I suppose this same SIM works in other phones (non neos)? Yes; it works perfectly in the ATT provided Nokia. You activated hardware-password on the GSM-module? I never heard of SIM-cards remembering the phones

Re: Need a Cellphone now...

2008-03-10 Thread Mike Montour
Jeffrey Thomas wrote: [...] and I am to the point where I am considering unsubscribing from the mailing list because there is no real information being written about. I don't mind that, and I enjoy the conversation, but it fills my email box with distractions while I work :) I find it

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-10 Thread ian douglas
If it helps any, using the March 4th daily build, my Neo registers just fine on both my TMobile and ATT SIM's and both receive SMS messages and can place phone calls. Mind you, I can connect to TMobile from within my apartment to make/receive a phone call and receive SMS messages. Inserting