Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-11 Thread Michael Shiloh
Do you know offhand what bands are used by TMobile and ATT in your area? Michael ian douglas wrote: If it helps any, using the March 4th daily build, my Neo registers just fine on both my TMobile and ATT SIM's and both receive SMS messages and can place phone calls. Mind you, I can connect

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-11 Thread ian douglas
According to ATT's map, zoomed in at my street address: MODERATE: The areas shown in the light orange should have sufficient signal strength for on-street or in-the-open coverage, but may not have it for in-vehicle coverage or in-building coverage. This ATT owned network provides GSM, GPRS,

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-11 Thread Michael Shiloh
Extremely helpful information, Ian. Thanks. I'm going to that site to see what it is for my neighborhood. Michael ian douglas wrote: According to ATT's map, zoomed in at my street address: MODERATE: The areas shown in the light orange should have sufficient signal strength for on-street or

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-11 Thread Michael Shiloh
Ian, I checked the map, and I'm in the same situation as you: 1900 and 850. But I notice the maps are not maintained by the providers. How do we know they are up to date? Michael ian douglas wrote: According to ATT's map, zoomed in at my street address: MODERATE: The areas shown in the

Re: Need a Cellphone now...

2008-03-11 Thread Daniel Spies
Okay, this is what I was worried about. I don't need GPRS+EDGE+UMTS, I only need one of these. But still then, there's no such device - except the Neo/Freerunner. Thanks for replying anyway! Daniel On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:43:18 +0100, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You probably don't want to

Re: Need a Cellphone now...

2008-03-11 Thread Daniel Spies
Because I still can tune the Freerunner. I have my lovely shell and can use the continuous effort made by the developers. What you suggested is what I have right now, and it's annoying. Thank you! Daniel On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:59:58 -0700, Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not get a

Re: openmoko-devel-image error

2008-03-11 Thread Javi Roman
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Javi Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting the following error building OM: ERROR: Openembedded's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration Does anybody have the same error? Why it's so difficult to make openmoko image? Is there

Re: openmoko-devel-image error

2008-03-11 Thread John Lee
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 08:39:43AM +0100, Javi Roman wrote: On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Javi Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting the following error building OM: ERROR: Openembedded's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration Does anybody have the

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-11 Thread ian douglas
Michael Shiloh wrote: I checked the map, and I'm in the same situation as you: 1900 and 850. But I notice the maps are not maintained by the providers. How do we know they are up to date? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile The US T-Mobile network predominately uses the GSM/GPRS 1900 MHz

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-11 Thread Michael Shiloh
Excellent info, again. Thanks. You ask: Is there a way to tell on the Neo which frequency band it's currently using? That might be kind of handy... I think there is. I'm trying to locate it. I had thought it was an em command. I'll try to find it tomorrow. Michael ian douglas wrote:

Re: GSoC 2008: Call for ideas

2008-03-11 Thread Michele Renda
I was thinking to a port of AirStrike (http://icculus.org/airstrike/) but there is the need of SDL-image port I am waiting for FreeRunner :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-11 Thread Mike Hodson
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian, I checked the map, and I'm in the same situation as you: 1900 and 850. But I notice the maps are not maintained by the providers. How do we know they are up to date? Michael If you need, I can get a very

suggest FreeRunner OPTIONALLY display GSM signal strength as numeric value, not just bars

2008-03-11 Thread Ron K. Jeffries
Back in the day I used a SideKick Color for maybe 16 months. It was a mixed bag (great keyboard, very good INSTANT MESSAGING and email, but a rather crappy web browser). With THE Sidekick, it was fairly easy to display a numeric value showing radio reception. Obviously, this did not take the

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-11 Thread Brad Midgley
Andy Currently the pump that provides 5V for the external device is enabled whenever we are in host mode. I don't know what that thing will do if we provide 5V externally too, probably it will be okay but it needs testing. You wrote currently. Does that mean with a software change we

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-11 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: Andy Currently the pump that provides 5V for the external device is enabled whenever we are in host mode. I don't know what that thing will do if we provide 5V externally too, probably it will be

Re: Question for those of you for whom I've done a GSM firmware upgrade

2008-03-11 Thread ian douglas
Mike confirmed that my home address is in an 850/1900 area, which gave me decent T-Mobile coverage, and weak-but-present coverage with ATT. Ian Mike Hodson wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian, I checked the map, and I'm in the same situation

Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-11 Thread Mary Stovel
I have been following this list almost since the beginning with much interest. In fact, I named my dog Moko. I am just an occasional user of a cell phone, no tech or development experience. I also have Voip service at home and when away from home use Gizmo Project to make long

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-11 Thread Brad Midgley
Andy So we must do the test to find out where we are. Interesting stuff. The test result may also vary based on whether the external voltage is a little higher or lower than what comes out of the pump. -- Brad ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

hand charger for neo

2008-03-11 Thread Robin Paulson
i spend a fair part of my time away from power points/computers and having recently got a hand-crank powered torch, i realise this would be the way to go for re-charging my neo. so, anyone have any experience/recommendations.ideas, about companies that produce these? thanks

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-11 Thread Steven **
I haven't heard of any VOIP service with a client available for OpenMoko. Someone else probably has better info on this. As far as loading new applications, you will not need a data plan to do that. You could download them straight to the Neo over wi-fi or load them onto the Neo over USB from

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-11 Thread joerg
Hi Andy! Am Di 11. März 2008 schrieb Andy Green: - gpg control packet Somebody in the thread at some point said: Andy Currently the pump that provides 5V for the external device is enabled whenever we are in host mode. I don't know what that thing will do if we provide 5V

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-11 Thread joerg
Am Di 11. März 2008 schrieb Steven **: I haven't heard of any VOIP service with a client available for OpenMoko. Someone else probably has better info on this. Provider: any SIP, there are legion Client: any SIP, IIRC there's been a thread on SIP-clients here in the group. Qtopia had one?

Re: GSoC 2008: Call for ideas

2008-03-11 Thread Ilja O.
Sqlite port would be nice thing to have. (With C/C++/Python bindings, of course) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-11 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: Hi Andy! Am Di 11. März 2008 schrieb Andy Green: - gpg control packet Somebody in the thread at some point said: Andy Currently the pump that provides 5V for the external device is enabled

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-11 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: No, I was just noting you could put the CPU peripheral logic into host mode but leave the EN_USBHOST signal low. Then you could add 15K pulldowns as a hack, and it would all work. But it is a bit of a

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-11 Thread Robin Paulson
On 12/03/2008, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't heard of any VOIP service with a client available for OpenMoko. Someone else probably has better info on this. is there anything underway to allow nokia n-series software to run on the neo? is it just a matter of installing hildon and

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-11 Thread joerg
Am Di 11. März 2008 schrieb Andy Green: - gpg control packet Somebody in the thread at some point said: No, I was just noting you could put the CPU peripheral logic into host mode but leave the EN_USBHOST signal low. Then you could add 15K pulldowns as a hack, and it would all work.

Re: GSoC 2008: Call for ideas

2008-03-11 Thread Marcus Bauer
already there, thanks to openembedded: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv4t/sqlite3_3.5.6-r0_armv4t.ipk On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 22:52 +0200, Ilja O. wrote: Sqlite port would be nice thing to have. (With C/C++/Python bindings, of course)

Re: hand charger for neo

2008-03-11 Thread Brad Midgley
Robin The cranks I've tried don't have much in the way of voltage regulation and usually don't have a capacitor to avoid voltage dropouts when you skip a beat... the duracell flashlight/usb crank voltage varies all over 3v-5.5v with inconsistent cranking. At least the sidewinder has a cap to

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-11 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: Ah, i see a Y-adapter: one end usb-device, one end receptable for usb charger, one end GTA02 *with ID-R of e.g 82k* PLUS *2 x 15k pulldown*. And GTA02 automatically switching to external powered host

Re: Using Wi-fi on Neo FreeRunner

2008-03-11 Thread Jeff Andros
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Mary Stovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, I named my dog Moko.http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community just in case you're wondering why all the latino people are laughing, moko is booger in spanish... depending on your dog this may be

Re: hand charger for neo

2008-03-11 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Robin Paulson ha scritto: i spend a fair part of my time away from power points/computers and having recently got a hand-crank powered torch, i realise this would be the way to go for re-charging my neo. I've one too... I've some connectors for commercial phones, but I don't know how I could

Re: hand charger for neo

2008-03-11 Thread joerg
Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): Robin Paulson ha scritto: i spend a fair part of my time away from power points/computers and having recently got a hand-crank powered torch, i realise this would be the way to go for re-charging my neo. I've one too... I've some

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-11 Thread Brad Midgley
joerg, Ah, i see a Y-adapter: one end usb-device, one end receptable for usb charger, one end GTA02 *with ID-R of e.g 82k* PLUS *2 x 15k pulldown*. And GTA02 automatically switching to external powered host mode. :-) This was on the list of accessories from the beginning, wasn't it? ;-)

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-11 Thread joerg
Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: joerg, Ah, i see a Y-adapter: one end usb-device, one end receptable for usb charger, one end GTA02 *with ID-R of e.g 82k* PLUS *2 x 15k pulldown*. And GTA02 automatically switching to external powered host mode. :-) This was on the list

Re: hand charger for neo

2008-03-11 Thread ian douglas
joerg wrote: get yourself a powered usb-hub Personally, I ordered a gadget talked about on Andy Powell's blog on the weekend: http://blog.automated.it/2008/03/08/how-long-does-yours-stay-up/ In his blog article, he talks about a USB power pack that you charge, and then attach other

Re: freerunner: charging and usb-host mutually exclusive?

2008-03-11 Thread Brad Midgley
thanks joerg I've tried to write this up as succinctly as I can. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#USB_Host In the end this means: the 47k ID-R should be in the Y-adapter, and you may use arbitrary usb-chargers (1A) with it for quick-charge. However the