Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-17 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/17 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:04:22PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/6/16 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's only 2 days old, but it's working well for me so I'm announcing it. I

Re: Avoid duplicates on ML

2009-06-17 Thread roguemoko
On 17/06/2009 3:49 PM, Evgeniy Karyakin wrote: To avoid getting duplicates (when a person sends a mail To or Cc you and the list at the same time) one just needs to set his personal preferences (and for most ML it's default to avoid duplicates), for mailman it's described in [1]. [1]

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Warren Bairdwjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: Woot - I'm trying the opkg update ; opkg upgrade approach now.  I look forward to the improvements a lot. Nice, nice! Did you remember to remove ~/.e -directory? One question - is the 'bind-home' approach

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi all , Just flash to help testing :) I really love paroli ! Better each release appearing :) Awesome! I found the same issue than Michal, not a real problem, but it's hard to scroll without clicking. Could you specify on what views (or all?) is this? BTW, with testing release 4 you

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Warren Bairdwjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: but I'm not sure if that's related to the problem I'm seeing.   Paroli itself seems pretty good.  However, when I enable the paroli-illume theme, illume doesn't start up.   So for the moment I can't get at any of

Re: Paroli SMS mockup image

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Warren Bairdwjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: there seems to be a minimalist trend in the current Paroli design.    But frankly, I didn't buy a device with a nice 640x480 display to have a monochrome UI!!  ;-) I can feel your pain!

Re: Paroli SMS mockup image

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
oh, forgot, please add your mockup here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli-themes -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Paroli SMS mockup image

2009-06-17 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
I like a lot your idea of conversational sms, I found it very usefull when I was using a Blackberry, but I might suggest to reduce identation a half or more from your proposal to gains more text space and allow two or tree identations levels. 2009/6/17 Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca:

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/17 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: I found two problems so far. 1. When waking up from suspend while in horizontal mode, there is garbage on the screen and it's unusable. Can you take a photo to show

Re: Launcher/Home Page (alpha) Release 0.22

2009-06-17 Thread jahckal
2009/6/7 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com Well, i've compiled this against SHR-Unstable. Hence the error and the effort required to link to e libraries. You'll need to upgrade to unstable - which BTW is not unstable for me - and I'm using the FR as my primary phone. e-libs are now *-ver-svn-02* in

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Sure, http://pvtrace.com/P6170618.JPG It's a photo of an incoming call waking up the phone in landscape mode. looks bad! Please report to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac 2. It's impossible to scroll in paroli,

Re: Avoid duplicates on ML

2009-06-17 Thread Paul Fertser
Evgeniy Karyakin anthropophag...@gmail.com writes: To avoid getting duplicates (when a person sends a mail To or Cc you and the list at the same time) one just needs to set his personal preferences (and for most ML it's default to avoid duplicates), for mailman it's described in [1]. [1]

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-17 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 08:07:51AM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/6/17 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:04:22PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/6/16 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm I gave it a shot and made a new keyboard. It's only 2 days

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 08:48:48AM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/6/17 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: I found two problems so far. 1. When waking up from suspend while in horizontal mode, there is

Re: Paroli SMS mockup image

2009-06-17 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
snip Ah ok, so clickingn on the list item will open the SMS view, that's nice, I like it. What'd you think how to decide if a SMS belongs to a group or it's an individual msg? snip For replies made in the phone i supose is trivial,in incomming messages, I don't know if there is any PDU field

Re: Better handling of AUX and POWER buttons

2009-06-17 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Nicola Mfbnicola@gmail.com wrote: [...] About my experiments I just discovered that some applications simply refuse to process XSendEvents for security reasons. This is bad, as using X you may differentiate virtual injected keys events based on the

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/17 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Sure, http://pvtrace.com/P6170618.JPG It's a photo of an incoming call waking up the phone in landscape mode. looks bad! Please report to

Re: Avoid duplicates on ML (was: Re: Fundamental Qi question)

2009-06-17 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Wednesday, 17 de June de 2009 07:49:16 Evgeniy Karyakin va escriure:  More offtopic: how about not to start new thread with every mail from you? For reading this ML I use GMail web interface and ~95% of messages from you are shown as new threads despite that messages are obviously replies

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Hi! Its nice to read all this positive comments so far! Almost all question was answered by Risto. I just want to give a small summary. # Landscape vs. portrai mode It is not a high priority (for me at least) for now. Simply because until now, I couldnt rotate the screen of my phone, and

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Oh, and there is a rather nasty bug: Sometime the phonebook gets erased, or some of the contacts. It is supposed to be fixed in this release, can somebody alert us, if he loose some of his contacts? And exact steps to reproduce it, would be highly appreciated. Thanks, Laszlo

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Paul Fertser
Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com writes: # Battery showing 33% when full. Its a problem what shr is suffering too. The main issue, that three battery are reported, and the batt app, averaging them. It's a problem of both hal and the way E gadget calculates the percentages. HAL

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: 2009/6/17 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Sure, http://pvtrace.com/P6170618.JPG It's a photo of an incoming call waking up the phone in

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Hi all , Just flash to help testing :) I really love paroli ! Better each release appearing :) Awesome! I found the same issue than Michal, not a real problem, but it's hard to scroll without clicking.

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-17 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hi Michal, Great idea! I was wondering... it would be much more comfortable to type letters, if keyboard would be full screen (i have big hands). Yes, i know it would be harder to read, but letters of the keyboard itself could be transparent too. Consider it Michael, and thanks for your

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread pike
Hi Woot - I'm trying the opkg update ; opkg upgrade approach now. I look forward to the improvements a lot. In case there's anybody as stupid as me out there, don't try that from within the Illume vala-terminal :-) Did you remember to remove ~/.e -directory? cu *-pike

Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia

2009-06-17 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:52:24 pm Denis Johnson wrote: I have a GTA02 V5 one of the first group purchases into Australia and I would like to know if anyone in Australia is planning a buzz fix party or if there is somewhere overseas I can send my Freerunner to get fixed. I guess the first

Re: [shr-unstable] packages for canola media player

2009-06-17 Thread Vinzenz Hersche
same bug here.. r...@om-gta02 ~ $ canola Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/canola, line 293, in module mc = MainController(ee, os.path.realpath(options.theme)) File canola-core/main/controller.py, line 263, in __init__ File canola-core/main/controller.py, line 572, in

Re: Paroli SMS mockup image

2009-06-17 Thread Warren Baird
I wasn't thinking of actually providing indentation as in a threaded discussion - my intent was that messages from other people are left justified and messages I sent are right justified - I think that's the way the treo 650 sms program did it. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:27 AM, David Reyes Samblas

Re: Paroli SMS mockup image

2009-06-17 Thread Warren Baird
yeah, I think that trying to build a formal discussion thread is probably too much. My thought was that basically any msgs from the same sender in a certain period of time of the last message from that sender (configurable - at least an hour, I'd think) would be grouped into the same

Re: Avoid duplicates on ML (was: Re: Fundamental Qi question)

2009-06-17 Thread Evgeniy Karyakin
. El Wednesday, 17 de June de 2009 07:49:16 Evgeniy Karyakin va escriure: More offtopic: how about not to start new thread with every mail from you? For reading this ML I use GMail web interface and ~95% of messages from you are shown as new threads despite that messages are obviously replies

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:52:20PM +0200, Steven Le Roux wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Hi all , Just flash to help testing :) I really love paroli ! Better each release appearing :) Awesome! Yes, indeed. But it is still very

Re: Paroli SMS mockup image

2009-06-17 Thread Warren Baird
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Ah ok, so clickingn on the list item will open the SMS view, that's nice, I like it. What'd you think how to decide if a SMS belongs to a group or it's an individual msg? I more or less mentioned that below - but I

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
I prefer the aux for other isues like keyboard in out and long press for something else(not sure of what righ now) 2009/6/17 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:52:20PM +0200, Steven Le Roux wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
But you don't need the keyboard in the main paroli window :) Being only two buttons, they shouldn't ever be hardwired to specific functions, but instead have different actions according to the foreground application. Rui On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 03:15:41PM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-17 Thread Michal Brzozowski
RTF config file :-), you can set the keyboard size in there. Polish or other diacritic signs are not high on the list as I don't use them :-) 2009/6/17 Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl Hi Michal, Great idea! I was wondering... it would be much more comfortable to type letters, if

one button ui

2009-06-17 Thread pike
Hi Being only two buttons, they shouldn't ever be hardwired to specific functions, but instead have different actions according to the foreground application. It's only two buttons, but they send a signal each second. It may sound weird, but I think I wouldnt mind having a different function

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/17 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: 5. The battery meter in illume is broken, it shows 33% when the battery is full, now it's showing 28%, while it should be showing 88%. Did you delete /home/root/.e

Re: Paroli SMS mockup image

2009-06-17 Thread tb
I really like the idea Grouping to threads by number is really useful as it has something of a chat-like conservation I would like to see a optically simpler implementation without colorful icons though 2009/6/17 Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Risto

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread MicVM
I flashed Om2009 r5 as well an can confirm most of the described problems. In addition I have the problem that switching of suspend from paroli (i assume this is done by setting suspend time to -1), as well as in illume does not have any effect. The same when i set up no dimming in the illume

Re: Problem with package built with my OE environment

2009-06-17 Thread GNUtoo
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 23:24 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:27:22PM +0200, GNUtoo wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 08:19 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:19:07AM +0200, GNUtoo wrote: Then I decided to try fso-testing (argh,

[shr-testing] intone 0.51 messing around with audio output

2009-06-17 Thread jeremy jozwik
ill try and explain this the best i can. just a moment ago i was listening to an album of the sd card via my headphones. intone played a complete song perfectly fine, but when intone switched to the next song in the playlist the audio cut out from the right headphone speaker and my mokos left

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Angus Ainslie
On June 16, 2009 04:44:22 pm Warren Baird wrote: Woot - I'm trying the opkg update ; opkg upgrade approach now. I look forward to the improvements a lot. One question - is the 'bind-home' approach documented somewhere? Both google and searching on the wiki haven't helped me find info on

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread matthias
The same for me: flashed the current images yesterday in the evening. kernel, rootfs and qi. main problems: - I could not switch off auto-suspend. - after pressing the power-button to resume all I get is a wsod :( So the phone was just usable one minute after a too long boot-period and then a

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Stian Ellingsen
on., 17.06.2009 kl. 10.09 -0700, skrev MicVM: In addition I have the problem that switching of suspend from paroli (i assume this is done by setting suspend time to -1), as well as in illume does not have any effect. The same when i set up no dimming in the illume power settings. I dont

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:08 PM, matthiasmatthiasfels...@web.de wrote: The same for me: flashed the current images yesterday in the evening. kernel, rootfs and qi. main problems: - I could not switch off auto-suspend. - after pressing the power-button to resume all I get is a wsod :( So the

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-17 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/6/17 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org But you don't need the keyboard in the main paroli window :) Being only two buttons, they shouldn't ever be hardwired to specific functions, but instead have different actions according to the foreground application. Rui +1 I like the idea

US triband vs EU triband

2009-06-17 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
I just confirmed basic functionality of 850/1800/1900 devices (US Freerunner) for 900MHz networks. RF sensitivity is poor, but sufficient for areas with good coverage. For Germany a US device (850/1800/1900) worked flawlessly with German operator T-Kom (in urban area), and rather poor with

Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique

2009-06-17 Thread jeremy jozwik
if only i had inverted triangle shaped fingers! On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Vibhav Sharma khoonir...@gmail.com wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:51:50 +0200 Mathieu Rochette math...@gmail.com said: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:41 AM, neove...@freerunner

Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique

2009-06-17 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:56 PM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: if only i had inverted triangle shaped fingers! I'd like to see your square shaped fingers :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-17 Thread jeremy jozwik
is there anyway to end literki other than opening a new instance of it and waiting for it to crash? 2009/6/17 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm RTF config file :-), you can set the keyboard size in there. Polish or other diacritic signs are not high on the list as I don't use them :-)

Re:new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-17 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
Literki is very promising keyboard. I have one suggestion: ButtonPress - ButtonRelease. Typing is still fast but you can 'cancel' if you realized pressing wrong area. keys.cpp:153 - case ButtonPress: { + case ButtonRelease: { display:206 - ButtonPressMask | + ButtonPressMask |

Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-17 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Hit the desktop icon again runs 'killall literki'. W dniu 17 czerwca 2009 23:23 użytkownik jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com napisał: is there anyway to end literki other than opening a new instance of it and waiting for it to crash? 2009/6/17 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm RTF

Re: [android] new cupcake image

2009-06-17 Thread Davide Scaini
ny news with this cupcake image? I'm very interested in... please let me know d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?

2009-06-17 Thread jeremy jozwik
all of those applications exist. some of those features have multiple applications to choose from. the only thing i am not sure about yet is sync of a calendar to a desktop system. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote: Hello, I need a GSM cell phone to replace

Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?

2009-06-17 Thread jeremy jozwik
the only thing you may want to be aware of is the battery life. which is in the best sense... not so great On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:42 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.comwrote: all of those applications exist. some of those features have multiple applications to choose from. the only

Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?

2009-06-17 Thread Brolin Empey
1. Are there applications with all of the specific features I listed, though? My Nokia 6103b has some basic organiser applications, such as for calender and task lists, but it does not have all of the features I listed. I can live without PC sync as long as my information is safe in my

App for remotely controlling jukebox software

2009-06-17 Thread Sam Kuper
Is there any software for the Freerunner that, with minimal tweaking, lets it take the place of the iPhone or iPod Touch in a setup like this?[1] [1] http://www.apple.com/findouthow/mac/#tutorial=wirelessmusic ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?

2009-06-17 Thread jeremy jozwik
* a *reliable* phone for SMS and brief voice calls. The FreeRunner would be my primary phone, not only a toy. i dont do much sms, but ive never heard of a missed sms from my contacts * tasks/todo lists (including tasks with and without alarms, recurring and non-recurring tasks, tasks with

Re: App for remotely controlling jukebox software

2009-06-17 Thread jeremy jozwik
http://www.opkg.org/package_14.html ?? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net wrote: Is there any software for the Freerunner that, with minimal tweaking, lets it take the place of the iPhone or iPod Touch in a setup like this?[1] [1]

Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?

2009-06-17 Thread Brolin Empey
2009/6/17 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com 3. I leave my Nokia 6103b on for about 16 hours or less per day. I do not use it for most of that time. When I do use it, it is usually for SMS or organiser applications, not for voice calls. Will the FreeRunner’s battery life be OK for my

Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia

2009-06-17 Thread roguemoko
On 17/06/2009 10:28 PM, Chris Samuel wrote: I guess the first question to ask yourself is do I have the buzz problem ? Yeah I'll second that. For the period mine was in active use I never once had the issue. I'm on vodafone btw. Sarton ___ Openmoko

Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?

2009-06-17 Thread David Ford
that's with screen on. i can easily get a couple days out of my fone if it's entirely idle. your nokia suspends/sleeps, it's just not a user visible thing. -david Brolin Empey wrote: Do you mean 6-8 hours with the screen on or off? If off, that is very poor compared to my Nokia 6103b: I

Openmoko Neo Freerunner Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia

2009-06-17 Thread Ian Munsie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Denis Johnson wrote: I have asked this before but the thread seems to have fizzled. I have a GTA02 V5 one of the first group purchases into Australia and I would like to know if anyone in Australia is planning a

Re: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia

2009-06-17 Thread Pablo Miño
I am from Uruguay and don't have any other Openmoko user nearby so I will go with the SOP and the blueprints to a local electronics store to have it fixed. I guess they won't charge me much. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 23:36, Ian Munsie darkstarsw...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?

2009-06-17 Thread David Murrell
Hi Brolin, Fundamentally, at this point, my Openmoko Freerunner fails the Not Interested in Technology - Significant Other Acceptance Procedure, otherwise known NIT-SOAP. If you want a phone that is going to Just Work, get a Nokia. If you want a Linux smart phone to hack about on, an

Re: How to get buzz fix in Australia

2009-06-17 Thread Denis Johnson
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Chris Samuelch...@csamuel.org wrote: I guess the first question to ask yourself is do I have the buzz problem ? I've been really happy with mine in the UK, US and here in Australia and nobody has complained about any buzzing (yet).  I think I'd only consider

Re: App for remotely controlling jukebox software

2009-06-17 Thread Denis Johnson
I have a SqueezeBox Duet http://www.logitechsqueezebox.com/products/squeezebox-duet.html and run SqueezeCenter (OSS) on my NAS but I notice that Duet hand controller which uses WiFi for remote control, runs linux and a LUA based UI for remote control http://softsqueeze.sourceforge.net/. As far as