I've had quite a bit of interest in getting the bits separately so that
wouldn't be a problem.
How much would you offer?
Thanks
Andy
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:01:30 +0100
From: atilla.fi...@gmail.com
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: Freerunner with Debug board and spare
dle them by setting/unsetting AUTOFST, I can now see AUTOFST being
enabled and disabled when I plug and unplug my charger cable with the ID
resistor. It's a quick hack, but it shows it can work.
I guess I know what my next project will be. :-) I'll take that to the kernel
list.
-Andy
It
charge when on the dumb charger
and modified cable.
Along the way I encountered several things about the pcf50606 MBC control
driver that I think can be improved/fixed. I guess I'll take that discussion
to the openmoko kernel list.
-Andy
It ain't what you don't know that gets you
I guess in another 7 days it will be working
again. :-)
I was able to escape the catch-22 by booting an old kernel, setting the RTC to
a date in February 2010 with hwclock and then booting the new kernel again.
-Andy
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into t
The http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta01 directory has
seemingly vanished. The om-gta02 directory is still there.
Is this permanent? That was my favorite place to get kernels. :(
-Andy
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble.
It's what yo
2009/4/24 :
> ... Micro SD card does it support ?
>
> I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ?
I have a Transcend 4Gb sdhc card and it works fine with my neo1973.
I tried booting off of it but apparently the stock bootloader can't
boot from microSD cards
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> Hmm.. suppose this was not planned to be posted to community mailing list..?
I think it was meant for this other list
http://lists.frumppyoldwoman.com/listinfo.cgi/family-frumppyoldwoman.com
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> i found the last 3/3/2009 image of Qt-extended.
Really!
Could you post a link?
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> Could anybody point me to the latest kernel and qt-embedded image that can run
> on the NEO 1973 () so not on the Freerunner !!!
The latest I can find is the 18th of november Images.
The qtextended forums seem a bit quiet maybe qt dev is discussed
elsewhere but releases are a bit sparse from
2009/4/13 Alexey Koptsevich :
> I have recently been in the same situation, the battery was completely dead.
> I bought "BL-6C Battery for Nokia 6235 6236i 6255 6255i 6256i" on eBay from
> the seller thamesmall, along with the wall charger "Nokia 6300 bl-5c
> bl-4c bl-6c
> Battery Charger Cradle US
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| 2009/3/9 Andy Green mailto:a...@openmoko.com>>
|
| [...]
| What does the "noise" look like, is it also the top-down block of
static
| "random" pixels described
atic
"random" pixels described on the trac
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2217
or "jazzy" moving pixels, or all over the screen, or in a defined
invalidated area not redrawn or what?
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to 22uF or maybe 47uF.
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ismorning just to see how possible it is. I wrote
up the following document about it
http://people.openmoko.org/andy/additional-headset-audio-caps.pdf
but this isn't intended to be any official story, just something for
people to try at their own risk. Don't go near it unless you
atches by Mark Brown on
|> andy-tracking, we should keep the amp turned off more often.
|>
| Can these be safely removed? Are they there just to make sure the
| capacitors slowly drain, so you don't get a pop when plugging
something in?
|
| Or do they have other purposes as well?
The
atched to fix "doesn't boot on r/o
| mounted fs" issue.
| Kernel is recent Andy tracking with GSM sysfs node patch created
originally by
| PaulFerster based on my suggestions.
| MOKO11 was a corporate work involving quite a number of people on IRC,
mainly
| PaulFerster, Werner, Lin
all the time before the new DC blocking caps you
will add back in. But thanks to some recent patches by Mark Brown on
andy-tracking, we should keep the amp turned off more often.
|> Another question - is a single big capacitor enough, if it is put into
|> the ground line instead of having
> It works and reliably flashes the firmware for you.
|
| yaaay joerg and thank you! i just safely and efficiently upgraded
both my
I think there's a little confusion going on here, AIUI Werner did the
rootfs end and Deiter the GSM firmware upgrade and deserve the thanks
for that.
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| Andy Green writes:
|>> So, please consider changing the framework to use the red LED to
|>> indicate the
|>> battery charge state.
| ...
|> I did not find a way myself to list the trig
e under the
control of a particular trigger. So you can assign the AUX LED to be
controlled by the charging trigger just with an echo.
I did not find a way myself to list the triggers available in the kernel
otherwise I would mention it; if someone found one I'm also interested
to know.
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| On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 01:19:07AM +0100, Fox Mulder wrote:
|> Andy Green wrote:
|>> Johnny Tenfinger is right despite it sounds strange. On some or all A5s
|>> there is no base current li
r), but through the GPIO IO cell
and the driver transistor base.
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latest Qi from http://people.openmoko.org/andy , it
should work OK with the older kernel you have there and the GSM stuff
will work again.
So that should be one down, two to go :-)
What actually happens different about the WLAN?
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surely be an improvement.
If your kernel has the printk timestamping enabled, maybe the dmesg
during suspend / resume has a hint if it's something on the kernel side.
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nf, hcid.conf etc and a
step by
| step method of sending data to the bluetooth headset (including headset
| bonding) that would be helpful.
Yes it's pretty interesting to read, especially as it pushes the "dodgy
codec" business outside of anything to do with OM, and has power
tried that?
It'll just be different loglevel= or console= on kernel commandline
depending on which bootloader and where you're booting from.
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the
sysfs wiki page with the new ones soon.
But, you shouldn't take that there is no documentation about sysfs, all
the important guys are on that page.
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from now on will have the module.
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this too,
which goes into the detail of which bits and what options are possible
for the controls. We'll add it to the Wiki when it's done.
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| and the latest Qi:
|
http://people.openmoko.org/andy/qi-s3c2442-master-hist_1665e43677c005a8.udfu
|
| Once I booted it and it suspend for the first time, I get a WSOD.
| This issue hadn't be solved in 2.6.28 kernels? Has this something to do
| with Qi?
Ca
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| Andy Green writes:
|> As I understand it, the problem with CPU digital audio on BT is that
|> there is no routing path in the WM8753 hardware between the two digital
|> audio interfaces (CPU and
ed to the GSM chip to the digital
interface for bluetooth, that has worked OK in the past.
| IIUI - "If I understand it"? I'm too old for internet vernacular :-)
Yes :-)
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are between the two digital
audio interfaces (CPU and BT). As in literally it's not there in the chip.
Maybe there's some way to meddle it through the ADC and DAC but other
than that it doesn't work IIUI.
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| Andy Green writes:
|> | Sat Feb 21 02:01:01 EET 2009 65 %
|> | Sat Feb 21 04:01:06 EET 2009 58 %
|> | Sat Feb 21 06:01:00 EET 2009 52 %
|> | Sat Feb 21 08:01:04 EET 2009 45 %
|> | Sat Feb
SHR will be even
| better?
This events/0 thing is solved for a long while in later kernel versions.
On the one hand it's hard enough to solve these issues, but on the other
hand the distros need to adapt to later kernels, or nothing changes for
the end user no matter what we're fix
ally run something near HEAD?
What is the status of WLAN, BT and GPS in each case?
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. Might after
| battery removal. Anybody else noticed this?
What's your kernel? If it's not recent, try a 2.6.29 one it may resolve it.
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hello,
|
| I've been using 2008.12 for a while now and it works really good. But
| there's a need to change to a 2.6.28 kernel due to some bugs. I tried
| the newest andy-tracking, but it's
nd
address
| 108
| [23821.384140] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
| [23821.392754] usb0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1a.0-1, CDC
Ethernet
| Device, 9e:08:34:97:d5:f8
| [23834.084104] usb0: no IPv6 routers present
It's pretty happy otherwise.
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|> I'm just adding some patches and doing some cleaning on it, I'll update
|> the moredrivers kernels at http://people.openmoko.org/andy when I
|> checked we didn't break the thresho
dev/mtd device and of the nand flash?)
Yes it can work, but you need root=/dev/mtdblock...
Having rootfs mount ro initially is a safety feature, it'd be sad if we
have to take it out because the rootfs can't manage doing a mount
/dev/root / -oremount,rw in the initscripts.
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| Hi Andy,
|
| | rw rootdelay=3 glamo_core.slow_memory=1
|
|
| that's for a SHR kernel mentioned somewhere on this list (
| uImage-2.6.28-rc4-ms5-fixes_34240a1c06ae3618.bin ) but not fixin
as U-Boot would.
We'd need a jffs2 filesystem parser and to wait for the mount action to
complete to get the kernel if we did it the right way, so we do NAND for
GTA02 "the compatible way".
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..
|
| I HAVE no problems with a similar uSD (has FDOM) but only with the FSO..
/boot/uImage-GTA02.bin is a workable kernel with correct CRC?
/boot/noboot-GTA02 should not be present...
Needs to be ext2 or ext3 in first three partitions.
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so you may be able to increase the speed from this.
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leaning on it, I'll update
the moredrivers kernels at http://people.openmoko.org/andy when I
checked we didn't break the threshold stuff.
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do fsck if it likes. Did it try to start X and left some log anywhere?
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it cannot get confused
|> so it doesn't make trouble.
|>
|> We also changed lis302dl to use level interrupts so it's suspicious now
|> we see this behaviour that is so similar.
|>
|> -Andy
|
| Thanks,
| Is somebody working on this or should I write a bug report? If yes
k with the QTE 4.4.2 ?
I guess the PM GUI stuff is choking simply because it doesn't know about
the new /sys paths in 2.6.28+ for this.
There are several known problems in 2.6.24 branch we won't fix that are
fixed in andy-tracking. So the recommended path for any distro to get
best perfo
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| | I meant the second latest one posted on http://people.openmoko.org/andy/
| | which is uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_andy-tracking_f2d78193eae5dccd.bin
| |
| | On
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|
| On Sun, 2009-02-01 at 19:27 +0200, Timo Jyrinki wrote
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| Le Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:31:30 +,
| Andy Green a écrit :
|> I would look at the flat cable carefully, the gold fingers at both
|> ends and the neck where it widens. First my flat cable cracked at
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| It's very interesting. Will it act as a wireless access point?
Nope. AR6000 doesn't support master mode.
But it's still interesting, well done to the people who worked on it.
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moves. And googling around, I didn't found if it is good that the
| neo screen flashes and stay sometimes on until I launch openocd.
LED5 lights on TX action of serial console, I guess LED7 is TX action
from PC on JTAG.
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2009/1/28 Andy Selby :
> Those links are no longer active as they link to ebay offers. Could you supply
> a link to something more longterm. I'm interested in getting one of these as
> I am sure are others.
These are the people who I got them off
http://stores.ebay.com/EastMaze-
nels?
FSO's "unstable" repo supports it I believe.
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-unstable/images/om-gta02/
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That's a known way it will eat more
power "randomly".
It hasn't been observed on 2.6.28+. So if it helps people choose, it's
a good idea to use a distro that is supporting current kernels.
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should take the device down to
its lowest power state. So that should give a way to try to point the
finger anyway.
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| On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Andy Green wrote:
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|> | - Wifi-icon is on
|&g
kernel is this, 2.6.24 or andy-tracking based one?
30 degrees C doesn't sound too volcanic, it's easily reached in ambient
temperature in Taipei on a nice day.
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works fine
here, nothing later did.
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good work!
Glad to hear it, that particular kernel revision has been used for a
while by quite a few people now with good results... I guess it started
fine and then choked somewhere in the rootfs.
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suspicious now
we see this behaviour that is so similar.
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Try leaving the battery out over night then reinserting it and charging it.
I've got a neo1973 on its original battery so yours should still work
You can get a very cheap battery and charger from ebay, I provided a
link in a previous post
http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/ms
http://n2.nabble.com/QTextended-4.4.1-tp1298701p1299157.html
Playing with alsamixer during a call and reducing the mono playback
volume made the echo go away apparently (although reduce it too far
and my voice went away with it).
You have to replace the state file as above for future calls to set
This is the fix I applied to 2008.9, there's no framework under
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages. Have tried grepping around the
place but I'm guessing it's using something different.
2009/1/15 arne anka :
>> On OM2008.12 and I have significant echo. I managed to apply a fix to
>> 2008.9 but doe
On OM2008.12 and I have significant echo. I managed to apply a fix to
2008.9 but doesn't appear to apply to 2008.12. Would really like a
fix for this, I am using it as my day to day phone and for the most
part I'm happy with it but I get complaints from callers about the
echo.
2009/1/15 Gabriel
7;s not
exactly being a problem for most people yet, but it was getting pretty
bad here having to copy over the config and wait 10+ minutes every time
I had to switch to look at something.
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have a GTA02 subdir
with suitable config and build that with ./build GTA02, while having a
GTA03 subdir with different config and build that with ./build GTA03.
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immediately.
That's really good news. Are andy-tracking kernel packages autobuilt
and made public anywhere yet? What would good advice look like for
people on existing rootfs to try those packages?
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Try these people
http://www.keyboardspecialist.co.uk/category/keyboard_type/frogpad/
Though they don't quote a price on the website.
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avoid this?
No immediate idea, sorry.
This kind of thing is why there is no private environment in Qi.
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lieve that "ro" on the kernel
commandline is fatal for startup of 2008.12. When I removed it from Qi,
2008.08 started up OK.
So check your U-Boot env if you're using that for "ro", or try adding rw
to /boot/append-GTA02 if you are on SD Card and Qi.
It's pretty com
he assumption that the partition the kernel is coming
from is the rootfs.
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| Andy Green wrote:
|> Aah didn't I read that this new rootfs does not remount / -orw... as a
|> workaround you aren't meant to use ro on the kernel commandline...
|> that'll b
ss is this might be the "ro" business, Qi has ro in the kernel
commandline but this update apparently does not remount rw.
| - Doesn't see my sdcard
Hmm is the /dev/mmcblk0p1 etc there through?
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| Andy Green schrieb:
|> Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello there, | | i
|> don't know, what's wrong, but i had just in the beginning some |
|> failures like | | tar: cann
adapters
have a little slider that can be used to disable writes to the SD Card,
they are easy to knock.
Also if your filesystem is corrupted it can decide to fail gracefully by
becoming read-only.
But I have managed to knock that little slider so many times I used some
pliers to pinch the plas
| some new keys in the neighbourhood as we walk around.
That's quite terrifying new take on "distributed attack" :-O
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| On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Andy Green wrote:
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it's from Oct 17... it has Harald's patches but not Nicolas'
fixes... ancient kernel alert. Kernel from that vintage is expected to
WSOD all over the place.
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ion "Revision" as 0x350 or 0x360 - A5 or A6.
| 0360.
Hum. Well, I recognize the symptom well enough to do with Glamo
internal DRAM not set up right I believe, but I don't have it on my A6
since many weeks when the last Glamo resume struggle was taking place
and I didn't hear it
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| Andy Green wrote:
|> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
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|> | I noticed a fresh kernel in your directory, so I flashed it. It seems
|> | to resume, which is nice, but after su
. Subsequent
| suspends/resumes don't help. Rebooting helps.
After you rebooted, is it doing that bad shimmering thing each resume?
I did six resumes in a row fine on my GTA02 A6 here before uploading
that build.
What kind of GTA02 is it?
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r had wsod. i
| only get wsod after a resume.
I guess it is another Glamo / suspend related misery.
On andy-tracking I changed the Glamo resume to hard reset the Glamo and
reload it every time. This works around a variety of WSOD caused by
accidental actuation of Glamo's reset signal during s
blogspot.com/2008/12/debugging-hell.html
| Andy, i still think it'd be good if you updated the kernel in you
| directory for GTA02 to the one that can actually resume (as the rev is
| known, it shouldn't be that hard). People started to try andy-tracking
| and not everybody can easily compi
the phone is from
| Dec 8.
Sounds right...
| I suggest you compile the kernel as well as relevant modules
| yourself. Or ask Andy to update his private directory. :)
I am sitting on another update to power management stuff from Ben Dooks
locally the last week until I can confirm it didn
;re running.
Second, WSOD from resume is a bit ambiguous since it can be a more
generic resume failure on 2.6.24. If you disable resume and just let it
do framebuffer blanking for a while, do you ever see the WSOD just from
that?
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hello Andy,
| thanks for reacting. still have some questions if I may?
| Is the renaming needed? or can I use the origional kernel name?
It's going to check for exactly "/boot/uImage-GTA02.b
ed the wiki on Qi and Enabling console messages and Put a
| "rootdelay=" in append-GTAXX like so:
This append-GTAXX would be append-GTA02 in this case, just making sure.
| But no starting up from SD.
Sounds like you are actually starting up from somewhere just not getting
all the way
it.
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01_om-gta02.opk
John, maybe you can clarify the situation with the other path (and maybe
change it to have a git hash).
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| i have been reading about this fix for a couple weeks now and how it
| is in andy-tracking and testing and how it was supposed to be in
| stable "soon." reading your email, andy, i assume that
o use
| the phone.
Nicolas Dufresne resolved it with a couple of patches that are in our
current stable and andy-tracking kernels now. So the solution is
independent of the distro used.
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I wouldn't assume this is a kernel issue, but if you think it might be,
you should try andy-tracking kernel from git or here:
http://people.openmoko.org/andy and see if it changes the behaviour.
The suspend and resume action is very different in these 2.6.28 kernels.
There'
hold down AUX when you power up, you always come into NOR
U-Boot... that's still the same when you blow Qi into the NAND U-Boot
partition.
If you don't press AUX and power the thing up, it should try to boot by Qi.
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hi,
|
| Andy Green writes:
|> | while, it gets unable to go to sleep. I can press the power button ten
|> | times, it still stays on. Only way I found for now is to reboot. Not
|> | pretty :/
|>
in andy-tracking based
kernels with Balaji's new regulator based PMU driver in.
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