Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 06:46:54PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: > > Hi Angus, > > On Thu, 21.05.2009 at 10:03:50 -0600, Angus Ainslie > wrote: > > The time gets updated from the network > > NTP, I assume? > > That'd be very much ok. > > > Thats paroli talking to the frame work before the frame

RE: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-22 Thread Tom Yates
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Staley, Daniel L wrote: > 3.) This is a big one for me: When someone sends me a text message, > the number does not get looked up in the addressbook. The lookup works > fine when someone calls me, but not when an sms comes in. I just see > the number instead of the name

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Toni Mueller wrote: > > Other things that I'd change if I were able to, off the top of my head: > Hi Tony! A great list of issues and things to write down for further development. Please add the items here so they're all on one list and can easily be read throu

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, [ still exploring the thing w/o much of a clue... ] On Thu, 21.05.2009 at 17:21:07 +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: > * Illume (Paroli?) should have a "reset to factory setting" option, > so I don't have to re-flash in case I made a mistake. after messing up too much and, as I wrote, having se

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 21, 2009 10:46:54 am Toni Mueller wrote: > There was a dialogue in Paroli where I could adjust the time. There, I > entered the time according to my local time zone, being unaware of the > network time stuff. But I'd prefer to configure an /etc/localtime, like > in any other *nix, too. Doing

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Angus, On Thu, 21.05.2009 at 10:03:50 -0600, Angus Ainslie wrote: > The time gets updated from the network NTP, I assume? That'd be very much ok. > Thats paroli talking to the frame work before the framework is ready to > respond. Ok. > I'd prefer digital too and maybe even white on bla

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, some more breakage, may be unrelated to Om2009, though... I've managed to mangle my menues, so now I can't get at the settings anymore, and the Terminal is also gone. I don't remember being able to completely disable suspend, and my micro SD card seems to be not properly recognized. At leas

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 21, 2009 09:21:07 am Toni Mueller wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 04:24:33 -0400, Mirko Lindner wrote: > > Toni Mueller wrote: > >> I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} > > > > Yeah, we want it all :) > > while flashing moko11 I've just discovered that Paroli do

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 04:24:33 -0400, Mirko Lindner wrote: > Toni Mueller wrote: >> I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} > Yeah, we want it all :) while flashing moko11 I've just discovered that Paroli doesn't let me set the date, but only the time. For some obscure rea

RE: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Staley, Daniel L
Hi, I decided I'd try to start using om2009 as my daily phone to help test it out. Here are a few of my comments (some I'm sure have been mentioned before) 1.) I really like the paroli look/interface! It is simple, responsive, and the contrast makes it easy to see. 2.) If you rotate the scree

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 21, 2009 07:22:15 am Robin Paulson wrote: > that's confusing. i'm trying to install udev-static-devices, because > apparently it will speed up boot time. > > it's not listed in the feeds which are on my neo (including > 'http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/' as you > list

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/5/22 Laszlo KREKACS : > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Robin Paulson > wrote: >> how do we install this package? i can't find it in the om archives; is >> it from a separate feed, or does it need to be installed manually? > > http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/numptyph

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Robin Paulson wrote: > how do we install this package? i can't find it in the om archives; is > it from a separate feed, or does it need to be installed manually? http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/numptyphysics_0.2+svnr109-r1_armv4t.ipk http:

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/5/20 Risto H. Kurppa : > I've been told that you can install the package udev-static-devices to > reduce the boot time by ~30s (but if you have your home on > /media/disk/bind-home, it'll not work, see > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009#Installing ) - stuff still under > development. how

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 20, 2009 09:14:56 am Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > > This is great to hear Angus, that actually OM will also include some > solutions from the community - I guess it means we might have a change > of shipping a more complete distro, not only the very minimal, almost > working stuff. Is there a po

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
>> Reading that wishes are not encouraged at this time, I'd probably >> better not hold my breath, though. > > That has changed a bit. We are now encouraging the community to create a wish > list. What we also need the community to do is implement the wish list. > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Angus Ainslie wrote: > Hi Toni > > On May 20, 2009 02:11:07 am Toni Mueller wrote: >> >> 2. Instead of shutting down, pressing and holding the power button for >> an extended period simply powered off the device. I think this is >> already known and being worked on

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Angus Ainslie
> > So far, I didn't really care much for the different keyboards, but if I > can have a wish, I'd like response times like the current keyboard in > Paroli gives (ie, it immediately gives results as fast as I can type), > not as sluggish with 1-2 second pauses between key presses, like in > Om2008

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Angus Ainslie
Hi Toni On May 20, 2009 02:11:07 am Toni Mueller wrote: > > 2. Instead of shutting down, pressing and holding the power button for > an extended period simply powered off the device. I think this is > already known and being worked on, but thought I'd mention it for > "completeness". > If you hol

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 12:26:46 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > I've been told that you can install the package udev-static-devices to > reduce the boot time by ~30s (but if you have your home on > /media/disk/bind-home, it'll not work, see > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009#Installing )

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 04:24:33 -0400, Mirko Lindner wrote: > Toni Mueller wrote: >> I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} > Yeah, we want it all :) no problem. ;) >> 1. Once in the dialer, I couldn't exit. In the wiki it says: Go to the >> main screen of Paroli, then pr

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Toni Mueller wrote: > > Hi, > > I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Great :) > 1. Once in the dialer, I couldn't exit. In the wiki it says: Go to the > main screen of Paroli, then press the AUX button for two seconds. But I > didn't manage

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hiya, Toni Mueller wrote: > Hi, > > I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Yeah, we want it all :) > > Yesterday I felt bold and flashed Om2009t3 onto my phone, but neither > moko11 nor the new u-boot yet, though. Playing around without a SIM > card installed, I found two pr

[Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Yesterday I felt bold and flashed Om2009t3 onto my phone, but neither moko11 nor the new u-boot yet, though. Playing around without a SIM card installed, I found two problems that might be cleared up reading the website(s): 1. Once i