ASU: Qtopia PIM info stored in sqlite database

Lorn Potter wrote: Qtopia contacts are stored in the sqlite database. Thanks for the info Lorn. Can you tell where the sqlite database is stored or is that not Qtopia determined? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Switch from GTK to QT (was: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions)

2008/5/21 Nkoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> My complaint is that it would be difficult for me to put my hands into >> the default apps. They are C++, QT, and expectedly using enough of >> those creepy C++-isms (possibl

Re: Switch from GTK to QT (was: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions)

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My complaint is that it would be difficult for me to put my hands into > the default apps. They are C++, QT, and expectedly using enough of > those creepy C++-isms (possibly, even those yecchy templates or > whereabouts

RE: Switch from GTK to QT (was: ASU software - pre-pre-releaseimpressions)

> It is an extra magnitude of difficulty to get anything more then a few > developers to code in a consistent style when working with C++. > Requires strict discipline and coding standards. Without such things, > it all de-generates at a rate proportianal to the number of developers > and amount o

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

On Tue, 20 May 2008 11:36:30 -0400, Ian Darwin wrote: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:27:25 -0400 Ian Darwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: >>> the current version of ASU uses QTopia's input manager, offering what >>> looks li

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

"Carlo E. Prelz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > With regards to the second one, things differ from person to > person. For most of its life, the openmoko project has been based on C > and GTK, which I happen to be reasonably versed in. The switch to QT > *requires* the abandoning of C in favour of

Re: echo (was: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions)

Crane, Matthew wrote: > I've noticed that with GSM calls in general there is sometimes an echo. It > can be very pronouced or barely noticable. It may be hw or sw, but it may > not have anything to do with either caller's phone. > > If it doesn't happen consistently and is not reproducable, it

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

Everyone should just use Python or ASM. Problem solved :) On 5/20/08, Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/20/08, Fredrik Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > Language DOES matter. We use English on this list... >> > >> > Programming language. :

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On 5/20/08, Fredrik Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Language DOES matter. We use English on this list... > > > > Programming language. :) > > Sorry if I wasn't clear on what I meant. I was refering to the generic case > - be > it spoken language, pr

RE: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 12:19 -0700, steve wrote: > I thought it was the august update released early! Funny... I thought it was the August update released late =P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Language DOES matter. We use English on this list... > > Programming language. :) Sorry if I wasn't clear on what I meant. I was refering to the generic case - be it spoken language, programming language, painting, music, ... If you want very active invo

RE: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

I thought it was the august update released early! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Dean Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:20 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions ASU is

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ASU is literally the "April Software Update". Three letter acronyms give it more geek cred. :) On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Richard Reichenbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What does ASU stand for anyways? It makes me nervous knowing that the > phones software shares

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

>> I'd still very much like to see a way to turn it off, so it works the same >> for letters as for numbers. It's annoying 90% of the time because most of >> the person or street names I need to enter into Contacts are not going to be >> listed. I promise not to write my next 850-page book on my N

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 08:05:13PM +0200, Bastian Muck wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ian Darwin schrieb: > | I'd still very much like to see a way to turn it off, so it works the > | same for letters as for numbers. It's annoying 90% of the time because > | most of

RE: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

What does ASU stand for anyways? It makes me nervous knowing that the phones software shares the same initials with my rival University. Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Darwin Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 11:24 AM To: List for

RE: Switch from GTK to QT (was: ASU software - pre-pre-releaseimpressions)

discussion Subject: Re: Switch from GTK to QT (was: ASU software - pre-pre-releaseimpressions) Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions Date: mar 20 mag 08 08:21:06 -0600 Quoting Travis Tabbal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Carlo E.

Re: Switch from GTK to QT (was: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions)

> Funny way to define the concept. I must disagree: if you "use the various > classes" > you write C++. Fair enough. I have seen plenty of C code using C++ objects that I didn't think of as real C++ code. It felt more like Obj-C to me, but again, to each their own. > Subjectively (for me), it is

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

other. This portrait/landscape was in the pre-ASU software; there is no gui control to enable it yet in ASU, but E17 almost certainly supports it, so we can hope that the apps will again support it. Ian Darwin ___ Openmoko community mailing list commun

Re: Switch from GTK to QT (was: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions)

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well... Why not use the Qt bindings for Ruby, then? > http://rubyforge.org/projects/korundum/ > Very cool. I've been thinking I might need a Ruby project for a while now. I might have to give that library

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian Darwin schrieb: | I'd still very much like to see a way to turn it off, so it works the same for letters as for numbers. It's annoying 90% of the time because most of the person or street names I need to enter into Contacts are not going to be

Re: Switch from GTK to QT (was: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions)

Tuesday 20 May 2008 skrev Carlo E. Prelz: > I write code as a job (have been doing that for longer than I wish to > remember). C and Ruby are my current tools. Well... Why not use the Qt bindings for Ruby, then? http://rubyforge.org/projects/korundum/ (also, i might make the note, that whi

Re: Switch from GTK to QT (was: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions)

Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions Date: mar 20 mag 08 08:21:06 -0600 Quoting Travis Tabbal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The switch to QT > > *requires* the a

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

Speaking of needing a "sharp nail or the stylus" to type easily on the keypad does that mean there is no support for turning the freerunner on its side and the keyboard flipping and enlarging, like say the iphone does? ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Languages (Was: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions)

The app icon idea should be optional, I know I personally have a tendency to remember locations of icons. If the icon list is updated constantly with the most accessed programs, then I might inadvertently select one program thinking another should really be in that location. I think this is more

RE: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

the network. IMHO. Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of liwei Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:22 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions On 一, 2008-05-19 at 16:27 -0700, Mike

Languages (Was: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions)

I did say "most". :) There are a number of programming languages that almost seem to have been designed to be difficult to write well formed code in. I try to avoid them, and usually succeed. I won't get into details as that's a little too far off topic and everyone has their own opinions on such t

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Travis Tabbal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can write both good and bad code in most any language. > > Really? Try writing good code in whitespace [1] or most of [2] :P Anyway, regarding the app icons: perhaps it's possible to move those that are used most often

List Eqituette (was: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

to "programming language flame war". Thank you. Ian Darwin (OP of the "ASU Software impressions" thread) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:27:25 -0400 Ian Darwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: 2) The ASU software features a qwerty-keyboard. It is switchable between alphabetics and numerics; unfortunately the gesture needed to do this (a triangle drawn counter-clo

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

2008/5/20 Ben Burdette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Travis Tabbal wrote: > C++ is difficult to link against, so that limits the languages that you can > use for development. For instance, D has a hard time with linking to C++ > (or did last I checked). C, on the other hand is far simpler to link to. >

list etiquette (was: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions)

ttribute quoted material to the correct sender. Also, from this time forward, it is necessary when posing any problem like this, to state whether you have a GTA01 or a GTA02, and, what version of the software you are using. To answer Mike's question, my GTA02 with early ASU software, does no

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

Travis Tabbal wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: The switch to QT *requires* the abandoning of C in favour of C++, a language that I personally find unsuitable for use. QT is C++, but you can write your co

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The switch to QT > *requires* the abandoning of C in favour of C++, a language that I > personally find unsuitable for use. QT is C++, but you can write your code in C and just use the various classes to get GUI widge

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

I've just booted it for the first time, can't really say anything about it yet, but the boot screen is perfect for me as an Archaeologist :) Joseph On 19/05/2008, Ian Darwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha >

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions Date: lun 19 mag 08 11:10:50 -0600 Quoting Travis Tabbal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Those apps are the heart of the phone, an

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:27:25 -0400 Ian Darwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > 2) The ASU software features a qwerty-keyboard. It is switchable between > alphabetics and numerics; unfortunately the gesture needed to do this > (a triangle drawn counter-clockwise from lower left) i

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

On 一, 2008-05-19 at 16:27 -0700, Mike Montour wrote: > Ian Darwin wrote: > > Thanks for posting your review. Perhaps you (or another Freerunner user) > can answer a few more questions: > > How good is the audio quality when having a GSM voice conversation with > another person? Can the other ca

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

Ian Darwin wrote: I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha snapshot of the ASU software. [...] Short form: functionally, it works. Among other things, the phone wakes up reliably on incoming rings (assuming it's booted and suspended, of course), and GSM voice

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Fredrik Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Travis Tabbal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carlo E. Prelz wrote: >> >> Those apps are the heart of the phone, and I would not want to have >> C++/QT versions running on my phone. >> >>

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

Travis Tabbal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carlo E. Prelz wrote: > > Those apps are the heart of the phone, and I would not want to have > C++/QT versions running on my phone. > > I really don't understand the sentiment there. If the app works well and gets the

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uite like the phone I am getting with it... while on the > topic... can freerunner be used without a simcard (obviously not the gsm > parts, but everything else?)? > > Mo. > > On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 10:27 -0400, Ian Darwin wrote: > > I have been using a FreeRunner for a few d

RE: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

Ian, Great Update thanks! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shiloh Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 10:38 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions Ian Darwin wrote: > I h

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

Ian Darwin wrote: I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha snapshot of the ASU software. For those who have been off-list for a while, or who have not been looking at the Wiki much, the April Software Update switches the Window Manager from matchbox to Enlightenment

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Those apps are the heart of the phone, and I would not want to have > C++/QT versions running on my phone. I really don't understand the sentiment there. If the app works well and gets the job done, why does it matt

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ian Darwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha > snapshot of the ASU software. I've done Daily Snapshot Reviews since January. I enjoy bug hunting and communication. Where can I get th

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

Subject: Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions Date: Mon 19 May 08 12:16:30PM -0400 Quoting Ian Darwin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I would like to know if the original GTK-based libraries and apps have > > been left in a decent (useable) state, and if it will be

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> > I would like to know if the original GTK-based libraries and apps have > been left in a decent (useable) state, and if it will be possible to > switch to them in a direct and clean way. OF COURSE THEY ARE :-) Carsten has made it very clear on this same list within the last few days that a

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Hi to all (have been reading along this list for a long time :), Sure you can use the Freerunner without gsm. It will just be was any PDA without gsm-modem (well it will be better ;) Jake On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Mo Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How does one go about getting the

Re: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

een using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha > snapshot of the ASU software. For those who have been off-list for a > while, or who have not been looking at the Wiki much, the April > Software Update switches the Window Manager from matchbox to > Enlightenment (E17) and the ma

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Subject: ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions Date: Mon 19 May 08 10:27:25AM -0400 Quoting Ian Darwin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > ... and the main applications from the GTK-based apps > (developed by OpenMoko and OpenedHand) to QTopia (but using X11, of > course). T

ASU software - pre-pre-release impressions

I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha snapshot of the ASU software. For those who have been off-list for a while, or who have not been looking at the Wiki much, the April Software Update switches the Window Manager from matchbox to Enlightenment (E17) and the main

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