Compatibility with dual sim tool

2009-07-20 Thread emanuele carrea
Hi guys, just lost my phone and it's the best occasion for buying a FreeRunner! As I'd like to use it for both work and home number, I'd like to know if it might work with this dual-sim tool: http://www.simore.ch/en/index.php They have two options: a version with sim card cutting and a version

Re: Compatibility with dual sim tool

2009-07-20 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 03:40:51PM +0200, emanuele carrea wrote: Hi guys, just lost my phone and it's the best occasion for buying a FreeRunner! As I'd like to use it for both work and home number, I'd like to know if it might work with this dual-sim tool: http://www.simore.ch/en

Re: Compatibility with dual sim tool

2009-07-20 Thread emanuele carrea
, emanuele carrea wrote: Hi guys, just lost my phone and it's the best occasion for buying a FreeRunner! As I'd like to use it for both work and home number, I'd like to know if it might work with this dual-sim tool: http://www.simore.ch/en/index.php It doesn't really use two SIMs

Re: Compatibility with dual sim tool

2009-07-20 Thread xChris
hi, Are these cards managed via the 'SIM application toolkit'? If so, I think only the QT has a menu for the SIM application toolkit. (does not exist on other distros) chris -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Compatibility-with-dual-sim-tool-tp3288865p3290807.html Sent

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-12 Thread Bumbl
would it, in theory, be possible to emulate a 2nd sim-card which was inserted and saved on the flash memory before and switch between it and the inserted one? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-12 Thread Ortwin Regel
No, because you don't have access to everything in a sim card and thus can't copy it. Ortwin On 6/12/08, Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: would it, in theory, be possible to emulate a 2nd sim-card which was inserted and saved on the flash memory before and switch between it and the inserted

Dual SIM?

2008-06-12 Thread Yorick Matthys
this should do the trick: http://ucables.com/ref/2-SIMS-IN1 or http://ucables.com/ref/SIM-CLONE you still need the IMSI and Ki numbers, but those can be obtained (at least that is what i read a long while ago) but emulating would be much more fun :) y

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-12 Thread David Pottage
On Thu, June 12, 2008 3:21 pm, Bumbl wrote: would it, in theory, be possible to emulate a 2nd sim-card which was inserted and saved on the flash memory before and switch between it and the inserted one? In theory this is possible if you can extract the 128 bit crypto key inside the SIM which

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Bumbl: would it, in theory, be possible to emulate a 2nd sim-card which was inserted and saved on the flash memory before and switch between it and the inserted one? SIM cards implement an on-board crypographic authentication mechanism that simply can't be

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb Yorick Matthys: this should do the trick: http://ucables.com/ref/2-SIMS-IN1 or http://ucables.com/ref/SIM-CLONE you still need the IMSI and Ki numbers, but those can be obtained (at least that is what i read a long while ago) but emulating would be much

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-12 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 12. Juni 2008 schrieb David Pottage: On Thu, June 12, 2008 3:21 pm, Bumbl wrote: would it, in theory, be possible to emulate a 2nd sim-card which was inserted and saved on the flash memory before and switch between it and the inserted one? In theory this is possible if you can

Dual SIM?

2008-06-11 Thread Adilson Oliveira
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. I'm quite sure the answer is no but as I didn't find any definitive answer for that I decided to ask: does the openmoko hardware support 2 SIM cards? []s Adilson. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-11 Thread Federico Lorenzi
no Not directly at least, it should be possible however to connect another phone that has bluetooth up to it, and allow it to act in nearly the same way. HTH, Federico On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Adilson Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-11 Thread Ilja O.
No ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-11 Thread Adilson Oliveira
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joerg Reisenweber escreveu: No. ;-) I thought so :) It's a pity, but the GSM-module won't support that - none will. And anything less than true *concurrent* usage - like electrical swappers where you can select which SIM to boot to, is

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-11 Thread Kevin Dean
The Freerunner has a single SIM slot. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Adilson Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. I'm quite sure the answer is no but as I didn't find any definitive answer for that I decided to ask: does the openmoko

Re: Dual SIM?

2008-06-11 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 11. Juni 2008 schrieb Adilson Oliveira: So, cells like the samsung d880 just swap electrically between the 2 SIM cards? The spec say you can use both cards at the same time but don't say exactly what same time means. There are phones out there that use 2 or 3 cards true-concurrently.

Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?

2007-12-12 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
costs. IMHO basic neo would never have two modems as it's still very rare to use dual-sim and it would generate unwanted neo's price rise. Regards. -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional Court for the Capital

Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?

2007-12-12 Thread Stroller
On 11 Dec 2007, at 13:37, David Pottage wrote: On Tue, December 11, 2007 8:08 am, Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek] wrote: dual-SIM slot in their products. And both SIMs are active at the same time! It requires two GSM modems inside Neo. That closes this issue. Only if both SIMs are active

Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?

2007-12-12 Thread Stroller
On 11 Dec 2007, at 14:06, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:37:02 +0100, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoon.com wrote: The dual SIM products you can buy after market, take two SIM cards, and provide a way for to switch between them, either by rebooting the phone, or via

Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?

2007-12-11 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
Hi. kkr pisze: dual-SIM slot in their products. And both SIMs are active at the same time! It requires two GSM modems inside Neo. That closes this issue. Regards, -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development Department AutoGuard S.A. Place of registration: Regional

Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?

2007-12-11 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
dual-SIM slot in their products. And both SIMs are active at the same time! It requires two GSM modems inside Neo. That closes this issue. Here is a description what dual SIM means and why: http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_SIM -- hns

Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?

2007-12-11 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
Hello. Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller pisze: dual-SIM slot in their products. And both SIMs are active at the same time! It requires two GSM modems inside Neo. That closes this issue. Here is a description what dual SIM means and why: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_SIM I knew

Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?

2007-12-11 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek]
Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek] pisze: I suspend what I wrote - if both SIMs should be active at the same time (above) it reqiures two modems (aka transceivers)... I meant I affirm what I wrote - sorry, spelling mistake. -- *Bartlomiej Zdanowski* Programmer Product Research Development

Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?

2007-12-11 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:37:02 +0100, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The dual SIM products you can buy after market, take two SIM cards, and provide a way for to switch between them, either by rebooting the phone, or via a SIM services menu. This isn't exactly true. In some dual-SIM

Re: Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?

2007-12-11 Thread Ilja O.
This isn't exactly true. In some dual-SIM phones that have recently entered the market, such as Fly B700 Duo, both SIM cards can be used simultaneously without the need for any kind of switching. It was already said that two SIMs working simultaneously would require two trancievers

Any chance to have a dual-SIM slot on futures products?

2007-12-10 Thread kkr
that some manufacturers (Samsung and Verzio) have integrated a dual-SIM slot in their products. And both SIMs are active at the same time! http://www.verzioworld.com/as/pressroom.html http://www.mobilegazette.com/samsung-duos-d880-07x10x08.htm snip The Samsung DuoS gets around this by having two

Re: Will the Neo1973 support Dual-SIM with SPST? Re: Using UART/SPI... for swithing 2-8 SIM-cards Re: [Neo1973] Hardware access: additional solder points ; )

2006-12-01 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
Why not just copy the sim card into the phone? We use Linux, so we can do whatever we like ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Will the Neo1973 support Dual-SIM with SPST?

2006-12-01 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 12/1/06 11:28 PM, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not just copy the sim card into the phone? We use Linux, so we can do whatever we like I'm not sure, but doesn't the GSM module want to talk to the SIM card directly? The SIM card initialization details are handled by the

Re: Will the Neo1973 support Dual-SIM with SPST?

2006-12-01 Thread Tim Newsom
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 7:59, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On 12/1/06 11:28 PM, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not just copy the sim card into the phone? We use Linux, so we can do whatever we like I'm not sure, but doesn't the GSM module want to talk to the SIM card directly?

Re: Will the Neo1973 support Dual-SIM with SPST? Re: Using UART/SPI... for swithing 2-8 SIM-cards Re: [Neo1973] Hardware access: additional solder points ; )

2006-12-01 Thread Jeff Andros
On 12/1/06, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not just copy the sim card into the phone? We use Linux, so we can do whatever we like ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Will the Neo1973 support Dual-SIM with SPST? Re: Using UART/SPI... for swithing 2-8 SIM-cards Re: [Neo1973] Hardware access: additional solder points ; )

2006-11-30 Thread Thomas MARCHESSEAU
. November 2006 um 16:56h: On Sunday 19 November 2006 16:36, Robert Michel wrote: One of the potential would be a software controlled switching of different SIM-cards. AFAIK Benefon Twin Dual SIM was the first phone that allows the user to switch between two SIM-cards with the phone GUI

Re: Will the Neo1973 support Dual-SIM with SPST? Re: Using UART/SPI... for swithing 2-8 SIM-cards Re: [Neo1973] Hardware access: additional solder points ; )

2006-11-30 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 11/30/06 7:42 PM, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you remind us ;)) that dual-sim is an intereting feature and Sean still haven'd answerd: #Will the Neo1973 support dual-SIM with SPST

Re: Will the Neo1973 support Dual-SIM with SPST? Re: Using UART/SPI... for swithing 2-8 SIM-cards Re: [Neo1973] Hardware access: additional solder points ; )

2006-11-30 Thread Thomas MARCHESSEAU
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On 11/30/06 7:42 PM, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you remind us ;)) that dual-sim is an intereting feature and Sean still haven'd answerd: #Will the Neo1973 support dual-SIM with SPST