Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-06-04 Thread nickd
What music applications would you be sharing? -nick Jay Vaughan wrote: I thought the Openmoko developer community would want to better than that ... Whats missing IMHO is a Repository Leadership clique, wherein a known group of people are responsible for some nice repositories that

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-06-04 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Rod Whitby wrote: | And therein starts the decline of Openmoko application availability into | the poor practices of the windows world ... | | ;-) It's really two different usage scenarios: one is the nice

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-06-04 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | in a main repository? In Fedora, the multitude of repositories for | downloading packages has caused nightmares of dependency hell when | users install from two or more repos that carry some of the same

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-06-04 Thread Werner Almesberger
Andy Green wrote: Hi yourself... I guess you must have started using Openmoko build system then because last time we spoke about it you were avoiding it same as me - -- for the same reasons. I think you misunderstood me there - I wasn't referring to myself when I mentioned the angelic patience

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-06-04 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: | Hi yourself... I guess you must have started using Openmoko build system | then because last time we spoke about it you were avoiding it same as me | - -- for the same reasons. | | I

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-06-03 Thread Werner Almesberger
John Lee wrote: opkg-target update opkg-target install libjana-dev Sure beats the manual approach :-) A little while ago, I built a program that uses SDL, and this is what I came up with: for n in \ libsdl-1.2-0_1.2.9-r5_armv4t.ipk libsdl-1.2-dev_1.2.9-r5_armv4t.ipk \

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-06-03 Thread Dylan Semler
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:38 AM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought the Openmoko developer community would want to better than that ... Whats missing IMHO is a Repository Leadership clique, wherein a known group of people are responsible for some nice repositories that

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-30 Thread Pranav Desai
On 5/29/08, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pranav Desai wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The usual way is to add the package to OpenEmbedded, and then add it's name to the task-openmoko-feed.bb

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-30 Thread Pranav Desai
On 5/29/08, John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 06:44:42PM -0700, Pranav Desai wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:34 PM, John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: libjana isn't packaged in toolchain by default. the default compopents are: libmokogsmd2, mokoui2,

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-30 Thread Rod Whitby
Pranav Desai wrote: My attempt is to make existing opensource apps available for Openmoko. If I have rewrite or wrap around the existing build process just to fit the OE model then it seems a bit discouraging. Contrast this with Debian, Ubuntu, Gentoo, etc ... you're effectively saying that

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-30 Thread Gilles Casse
Hello, Having an official packages repository is excellent. It is not enough though: openness to external contributions, possible reactivity are welcomed too, otherwise the repository would tend to a sanctuary. Gilles ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Pranav Desai wrote: | On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | The usual way is to add the package to OpenEmbedded, and then add | it's name

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-30 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | That is exactly the problem. You see, if we put april software update | into consideration (these are standard openmoko apps as well), the | prerequisite will not be small for a toolchain. I'm still

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-30 Thread John Lee
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:37:40AM +0100, Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | That is exactly the problem. You see, if we put april software update | into consideration (these are standard openmoko apps as well), the

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-30 Thread Jay Vaughan
I thought the Openmoko developer community would want to better than that ... Whats missing IMHO is a Repository Leadership clique, wherein a known group of people are responsible for some nice repositories that end-users might find interesting .. If I could easily add a few sites to

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-30 Thread George Brooke
How about a system like launchpad's PPA (Personal Package Archive) which allows developers to have their packages built automatically for all versions of ubuntu. This could have access to all of the libraries available through OE and any that you build your self - avoiding dependency problems in

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-29 Thread John Lee
I have just realized that opkg-cl isn't in toolchain. :( added and committed, will show up in the next toolchain build. On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:34:40PM +0800, John Lee wrote: libjana isn't packaged in toolchain by default. the default compopents are: libmokogsmd2, mokoui2,

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-29 Thread Pranav Desai
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:34 PM, John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 04:19:37PM -0700, Pranav Desai wrote: I am still having trouble building openmoko-dialer2 with the toolchain. I can build openmoko-sample2 just fine. The toolchain seems to be missing libpulse.

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-29 Thread Pranav Desai
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pranav Desai wrote: But that brings another question (which probably needs another thread), where do we store/host the ported apps if we have some? * Can we put it somewhere on downloads.openmoko.org

Re: Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-29 Thread Rod Whitby
Pranav Desai wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The usual way is to add the package to OpenEmbedded, and then add it's name to the task-openmoko-feed.bb http://task-openmoko-feed.bb recipe so that it automatically

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-29 Thread John Lee
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 06:44:42PM -0700, Pranav Desai wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:34 PM, John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: libjana isn't packaged in toolchain by default. the default compopents are: libmokogsmd2, mokoui2, mokopanelui2, mokojournal2 and dependencies. we cannot

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-28 Thread Pranav Desai
On 5/26/08, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | No package 'libjana' found | No package 'libjana-ecal' found | No package 'libjana-gtk' found | | Any ideas, suggestions or can anyone provide with

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-28 Thread Pranav Desai
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 1:00 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On 5/26/08, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | | No package 'libjana' found |

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-28 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | What we need is to enable to install these into the toolchain somehow, | | rather than make that a special do it at the factory operation | to get | | things into toolchain. | | | | Agreed, but till

Packaging third-party applications (Was: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May))

2008-05-28 Thread Rod Whitby
Pranav Desai wrote: But that brings another question (which probably needs another thread), where do we store/host the ported apps if we have some? * Can we put it somewhere on downloads.openmoko.org http://downloads.openmoko.org * Should we create another project on project.openmoko.org

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | What we need is to enable to install these into the toolchain somehow, | | rather than make that a special do it at the factory operation | to get | | things into toolchain. | | | | Agreed, but till

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-28 Thread John Lee
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 04:19:37PM -0700, Pranav Desai wrote: I am still having trouble building openmoko-dialer2 with the toolchain. I can build openmoko-sample2 just fine. The toolchain seems to be missing libpulse. Initially, om-conf openmok-dialer2 gave both libebook and libpulse as

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-25 Thread Pranav Desai
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you friends, Right, We also found the problem after release. We should put pkg-config into meta-toolchain to solve it. John Lee is working this. :-) Cheers, -Julian Hi Friends, After John Lee's great

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-14 Thread Julian
Guillaume Chereau : It worked on my computer, but I check again now and you are right : it uses the host header files. It just appends to work on my computer because I have all the header files in my host computer already (for example in your case I think you need to install the package

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-14 Thread Michael Shiloh
Julian wrote: Guillaume Chereau : It worked on my computer, but I check again now and you are right : it uses the host header files. It just appends to work on my computer because I have all the header files in my host computer already (for example in your case I think you need to install the

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-13 Thread Pranav Desai
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Guillaume Chereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 16:19 -0700, Pranav Desai wrote: On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, After fix some problems, I had put the newest meta

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-13 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 09:25 -0700, Pranav Desai wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Guillaume Chereau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 16:19 -0700, Pranav Desai wrote: On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Julian

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-12 Thread Pranav Desai
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, After fix some problems, I had put the newest meta toolchain to downloads.openmoko.org. If you are developing a single application, you can use meta-toolchain to build your onw application. I tried using this

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-12 Thread Pranav Desai
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Pranav Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, After fix some problems, I had put the newest meta toolchain to downloads.openmoko.org. If you are developing a single application, you

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-12 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 16:19 -0700, Pranav Desai wrote: On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, After fix some problems, I had put the newest meta toolchain to downloads.openmoko.org. If you

Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-11 Thread Julian
Hi all, After fix some problems, I had put the newest meta toolchain to downloads.openmoko.org. If you are developing a single application, you can use meta-toolchain to build your onw application. please take a look of this Page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain Best Regards,