Marcus Bauer wrote:
>
> gpsd works well and gypsy is not network capable. Simply using your
> Neo's GPS from your Laptop does not work. And especially for an
> application like tangoGPS it is inherently broken: every nav-application
> wants to have the raw NMEA and not some preprocessed stuff and t
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> What is the point of having GPS anyway?
>
Its nice, when you're navigating around an unfamiliar area, to be able
to have a realtime update of where you are exactly. Its also fun to
have a trace of your trip, if you're the kind of person who gets out a
bit. Nice in the forests and among n
Ken Restivo wrote:
> What is the point of having GPS anyway?
One reason for GPS on a phone is to provide location information for
"Enhanced 911" emergency services.
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If you don't need a GPS that's great but I find them really useful.
Yes, maps and a compasses are really useful but they are quite bulky
and you need the right one. Thanks to the FreeRunner I've now got
localised, street level maps for a large part of the work (OSM[0]) in
my pocket. In addition to
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:38:07PM +0300, Mikko Rauhala wrote:
> ti, 2008-07-29 kello 20:53 +0200, Marcus Bauer kirjoitti:
> > I'm a huge Openstreetmap fan but until OSM is ready for routing this
> > will take at least five more years, probably ten.
>
> That's probably true _if you drive a car_ (
my apologies for the spam,
i didn't read the wiki good enough, the fix is there
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Yorick Moko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> start-up solved:
> [Desktop Entry]
> Encoding=UTF-8
> Name=Navit
> TryExec=navit
> GenericName=Navit
> Comment=GPS Navigation
> Exec=navit
> Ic
start-up solved:
[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Navit
TryExec=navit
GenericName=Navit
Comment=GPS Navigation
Exec=navit
Icon=diversity-nav
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=Network;GPS;
StartupNotify=true
SingleInstance=true
solved it
but the destination screen crashes
On Thu, Jul
that page seems very out-dated...
I modified the desktop file and it still won't start, what am I doing wrong?
the file looks like this:
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Navit
TryExec=navit
GenericName=Navit
Comment=GPS Navigation
Exec=navit
Icon=diversity-nav
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=GPS;
St
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:38 PM, John Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> since OM will stick with fso in the foreseeable future, I think port
> OM2007.2 app suites to fso is a logical move. ogpsd is there based on
> gypsy, and it should be just another backend of tangogps.
Just so you know, the m
arne anka wrote:
>> Navit works supprisingly well.
>> Very well with 'stolen/misused' Map&Route maps.
>
> got wherefrom, ie what kind of maps work with it?
http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Main_Page#Maps
>> But i have to say, the navit build for openmoko is in bad condition.
>> (easy to fi
> Navit works supprisingly well.
> Very well with 'stolen/misused' Map&Route maps.
got wherefrom, ie what kind of maps work with it?
> But i have to say, the navit build for openmoko is in bad condition.
> (easy to fix)
care to elaborate?
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Tilman Baumann wrote:
> But you are tight, they solve quite different problems. Navit is far
> better for orientation in cities or for cycling and walking.
Sorry, this is probably a typo that needs to be declared explicitly.
s/tight/right/
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Shawn Rutledge wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So I hope you come up with good data for India. I always wanted to
>> have a map of the entire world available in my pocket, so maybe we get
>> closer and closer to that .. ;)
>
> planet.osm.bz2 is
Marcus Bauer wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:47 +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote:
>
>> Well, i like tangoGPS very much. But it is hardly a comprehensive solution.
>> First it's only a tile viewer for online maps. No routing, no offline
>> maps.
>
> I'm a huge Openstreetmap fan but until OSM is read
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On 7/30/08 David Pottage wrote:
> On Wed, July 30, 2008 9:07 am, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
>
> > > I will not reply to comments like these in detail. You would not
> > > understand.
>
> Sean:
>
> Ad homen attacks aside, you need to respond in public to Marcus's
> substantive points. He is an import
David Pottage wrote, On 30/07/08 11:07:
> None of us expected an iPhone like polished and fully integrated
> software stack, but we did expect a developer friendly platform with
> some basic functionality that would mostly work.
Strangely enough, I didn't. Not having read the mailing list, looke
> Ad homen attacks aside, you need to respond in public to Marcus's
> substantive points.
> [as lot of the sensible remarks]
+1
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On Wed, July 30, 2008 9:07 am, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
> I will not reply to comments like these in detail. You would not
> understand.
Sean:
Ad homen attacks aside, you need to respond in public to Marcus's
substantive points. He is an important community developer, and he is
expressing real iss
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Marcus Bauer wrote:
> * I have spent considerable amounts of time, doing unpaid
> development for Openmoko - namely tangoGPS.
This give you a lot of honor, and if until now I avoid to reply to you
was also for this fact.
> * I fee
ti, 2008-07-29 kello 20:53 +0200, Marcus Bauer kirjoitti:
> I'm a huge Openstreetmap fan but until OSM is ready for routing this
> will take at least five more years, probably ten.
That's probably true _if you drive a car_ (though even for that it can
be a handy help, especially in areas that don
Marcus Bauer wrote, On 30/07/08 08:32:
[snip]
>
> But if the marketing guy (not sales guy as he pointed out) makes wrong
> technical statements I have enough authority to correct them. (Simply go
> over to Wikipedia and check for the word meritocracy and its connection
> to open source.)
>
"A
> This is not at all what I meant. I will reply to you privately.
>
>-Sean
>
...thank you!
*removes flak jacket*
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On 7/30/08 Marcus Bauer wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 16:07 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I will not reply to comments like these in detail. You would not
> understand.
>
> Well, we can start calling each other names here - and basically you
> are
> calling me retarded. That
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 16:07 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
>
>
> I will not reply to comments like these in detail. You would not understand.
Well, we can start calling each other names here - and basically you are
calling me retarded. That's fine with me, but next time do it off list.
As you ar
>
> Nope. Can't compete against a TomTom or any other commercial Navi. But
> then there is no solution for the Neo: the screen is too small and the
> speaker too weak. Nevertheless it is quite often quite handy.
>
I'm using it to navigate the streets of Vienna quite happily,
Marcus .. it took me
> planet.osm.bz2 is 4.2 gigs now, but that's why there are 8 gig microSD
> cards I guess. :-) Of course being unindexed XML you don't have time
> to parse and render that much data.
>
Hmm .. that alongside mokopedia, and my 8gig card is *full* to the
brim . Cool! :)
Hey - maybe *this* is the
I will not reply to comments like these in detail. You would not understand.
-Sean
Marcus Bauer wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 13:37 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
>> On 7/29/08 Marcus Bauer wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:33 -0700, steve wrote:
> Of course!!! Every toolkit is allo
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 13:37 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
> On 7/29/08 Marcus Bauer wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:33 -0700, steve wrote:
> > > > Of course!!! Every toolkit is allowed.
> > > >
> > > > The whole point about FSO is to free people to pick their toolkit!
> >
> > The opposite is
On 7/29/08 Marcus Bauer wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:33 -0700, steve wrote:
> > > Of course!!! Every toolkit is allowed.
> > >
> > > The whole point about FSO is to free people to pick their toolkit!
>
> The opposite is true. FSO forces you into ASU. It basically makes all
> work that has b
Marcus Bauer writes:
> FSO is the brainchild of Dr. Michael Lauer, fresh from the university's
> ivory tower but lacking any industry experience.
I may not agree with using python on a phone, but Michael has quite a lot of
"industry" experience, I first got to know him was back in the days of
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:47 +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote:
> Well, i like tangoGPS very much. But it is hardly a comprehensive solution.
> First it's only a tile viewer for online maps. No routing, no offline
> maps.
I'm a huge Openstreetmap fan but until OSM is ready for routing this
will take at
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So I hope you come up with good data for India. I always wanted to
> have a map of the entire world available in my pocket, so maybe we get
> closer and closer to that .. ;)
planet.osm.bz2 is 4.2 gigs now, but that's why t
> @Marcus - My main job is to sell the Neo ( I work for a
> distributor) and tangoGPS is the application that impresses my
> clients (and me) the most (even though we hardly have OSM data for
> India!). I would love to see it continue to be developed. (Offline
> maps is something that peop
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 21:49 +0530, rakshat hooja wrote:
>
> @Marcus - My main job is to sell the Neo ( I work for a distributor)
> and tangoGPS is the application that impresses my clients (and me) the
> most (even though we hardly have OSM data for India!). I would love to
> see it continue to
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:26 +0100, Tim Coggins wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > from tangogps. Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own
> > gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it.
> >
> > OM2007.2 is the
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 18:19:32 schrieb rakshat hooja:
> > Please see Daniel Willmann's announcement for more details.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --
> >
> > :M:
>
> Thanks for the reply and my apologies if I mis-understood something/ got
> the facts wrong . I will wait for Daniel Willmann's announcement
>
> Please see Daniel Willmann's announcement for more details.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> :M:
Thanks for the reply and my apologies if I mis-understood something/ got the
facts wrong . I will wait for Daniel Willmann's announcement.
@Marcus - My main job is to sell the Neo ( I work for a distributor)
Just to let you know: I really like Tango GPS.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Tim Coggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> from tangogps. Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own
>> gps software and I'm no
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> from tangogps. Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own
> gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it.
>
> OM2007.2 is there, it works and I recommend everybody to develop for it.
Marcus,
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:46 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 15:28:56 schrieb rakshat hooja:
> > > Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own
> > > gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it.
> > >
> > Not to start a flame war but ev
rakshat hooja wrote:
>
>
> Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own
> gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it.
>
> OM2007.2 is there, it works and I recommend everybody to develop for it.
>
> Best regards,
> Marcus
>
>
> Not to star
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 15:28:56 schrieb rakshat hooja:
> > Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own
> > gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it.
> >
> > OM2007.2 is there, it works and I recommend everybody to develop for it.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Marcus
> Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own
> gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it.
>
> OM2007.2 is there, it works and I recommend everybody to develop for it.
>
> Best regards,
> Marcus
>
Not to start a flame war but even I would like to know why Openmok
Hello John,
thanks for taking the time for writing your answer.
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 18:38 +0800, John Lee wrote:
> Part of my current work requires me to use fso daily. It seems
> strange that what I know seems to be different from what you know.
>
> * fso does not force you to ASU or closel
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 08:23:29AM +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 01:08 +0200, Kristian 'kriss' Mueller wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 00:46 +0200 schrieb Marcus Bauer:
> > >
> > > The opposite is true. FSO forces you into ASU. It basically makes all
> > > work that ha
Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 08:23 +0200 schrieb Marcus Bauer:
> > > The opposite is true. FSO forces you into ASU. It basically makes
> all
> > > work that has been put into OM2007.2 useless.
> > >
> > > Please stop telling these lies.
> >
> > Marcus, did I miss the irony here, or do you really
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Marcus Bauer wrote:
> FSO is the brainchild of Dr. Michael Lauer, fresh from the university's
> ivory tower but lacking any industry experience. It is reinventing the
> wheel and drains lots of ressources that are needed elsewhere inside of
> Openmoko
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 01:08 +0200, Kristian 'kriss' Mueller wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 00:46 +0200 schrieb Marcus Bauer:
> > On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:33 -0700, steve wrote:
> > > Of course!!! Every toolkit is allowed.
> > >
> > > The whole point about FSO is to free people to pick thei
Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 00:46 +0200 schrieb Marcus Bauer:
> On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:33 -0700, steve wrote:
> > Of course!!! Every toolkit is allowed.
> >
> > The whole point about FSO is to free people to pick their toolkit!
>
> The opposite is true. FSO forces you into ASU. It basically m
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:33 -0700, steve wrote:
> Of course!!! Every toolkit is allowed.
>
> The whole point about FSO is to free people to pick their toolkit!
The opposite is true. FSO forces you into ASU. It basically makes all
work that has been put into OM2007.2 useless.
Please stop telling
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I am just finishing my first application for the Freerunner. It is python
written and use gtk.
Are these toolkits allowed to the "ca
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